RedYoshi Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, WhistleHappy said: How about ... Everyone sets their Mobile Phone 'ALARM CLOCKS' to go off simultaneously on 29 MINUTES into the game.. ? Remain silent (except for the phones,) Hold Them Up facing towards the Club Officials seats.. Eye catching and noisy! (this in conjunction with other protestations, very easy to do and organise.. spread by word of mouth throughout the stands pre match and during the early part of the game... most people will have phones!) The clock on my phone is 10 minutes fast. I’d look a right plonker on 19 minutes. 1 hour ago, Blagdon Mike said: #OTIB Supporter PECKING ORDER JPG CAN WE HAVE THIS PRODUCED WITH A RED BACKGROUND PLEASE? WOULD MAKE A USEFUL A4 IMAGE ... THANKS! I’m assuming you meant to tag @The Joker in this, in reference to this image: In regards to a protest, I proposed something in another thread (here)... basically, absolutely pack out the South Stand, leaving the other two stands nearly empty. A show of unity between fans, an avoidance of detrimental atmosphere for the team (it may even improve it), and a bonus of demonstrating how safe standing could work. From that position, any other idea could also be implemented (placards, turning backs to the pitch, songs, etc.) - the only issue would be ensuring it's achieved safely, which may be too much of a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 55 minutes ago, RedYoshi said: The clock on my phone is 10 minutes fast. I’d look a right plonker on 19 minutes. I see what you've done there @RedYoshi ..... Your phone clock is obviously set to Dolman Mean Time (DMT) , you need to reset it to Ashton Gate Mean Time (AGMT) or GMT will do just as well, that way you will be time synchronised with the match officials and get it see games all the way to the final whistle. I believe Dolman Mean Time (DMT) was introduced by some joker having a laugh for April Fools Day one year several decades ago... Unfortunately it caught out many supporters in the Dolman and has been a common problem within that false time zone ever since,, supporters have subsequently become accustomed to 80Minute Football matches and frequently miss the latter stages of games. Please reset your watch/phone to AGMT/GMT asap before it's too late - get more out of your matchday experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
054123 Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 11 hours ago, Bar BS3 said: I think the under 12’s tickets at £99 including a shirt/mini-kit ARE fair prices. My issue was that they have gone up to that from £50 overnight. I think that’s harsh, when unexpected. As I say though, I think it is still decent value and will now be renewing, having held off in support of the questions raised. I still don' understand why there isn' just a child's price. Could somebody please explain why my 12 year old has to pay more than my 7 year old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 The Lansdown statement is really disappointing but no surprise. The club clearly feel they’ve got it right and once you cut through all the corporate spiel it’s basically saying that we know we’ve pissed off the whole fan base but we’re going to press on regardless. As someone else said earlier on this thread the changes to the disabled ticket prices could very easily be viewed cynically as an attempt to stave off more bad publicity. And the extension of the deadline by a couple of days is risible.... why not extend it until the end of April and actually make a difference? There is no practical need for people to have to renew over 4 months before the season starts, and the extension by a few days is an insult. I’ll renew my 3 tickets in S82 because I love going and it’s habit. I’ll happily boycott the overpriced concessions though, especially now our discounts have been reduced. Only City could balls this up quite so spectacularly. I don’t think many would have objected if they’d just done away with the free kids ticket in the family stand and added £25 to all other prices across the ground. That would’ve bee fair and reasonable. As it is they’ve deliberately picked on kids and the elderly and it’s a totally avoidable PR disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacki Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, 054123 said: I still don' understand why there isn' just a child's price. Could somebody please explain why my 12 year old has to pay more than my 7 year old? I’ve never got this either. I’m sure that when I was a kid there were just adult and child prices. It seems to be the modern way, all clubs seem to do it but I’ll never understand why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meh Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 6 hours ago, Harry said: Some talk of card displays or people holding up red cards. Well, S82 have this afternoon been advised by the Club that we are no longer permitted to use cards for any displays. Apparently, during the Cardiff game where we’d set these up (only to be changed by the club), some of the card was adapted into paper aeroplanes and the referee reported it and we face an FA fine if it happens again. So, any plans involving card or paper is now not permitted. Good this, innit! But this has not been mentioned prior to now? Convenient timing. I can see why the club adopted BS as it’s head company. As if the ref complained. Hardly any card got on the pitch that day - club is sacred to death. It is a shame that this forum does not reach our whole fan base as there would be one visual spectacle that would grab headlines everywhere if we all done it as a fan base - wear blue and white. Imagine the gate with no red and white flags, shirts etc - would be weird (Ipswich colours I hasten to add). Blue and White day at AG - that would hurt and hit home !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 27 minutes ago, Neo said: But this has not been mentioned prior to now? Convenient timing. I can see why the club adopted BS as it’s head company. As if the ref complained. Hardly any card got on the pitch that day - club is sacred to death. It is a shame that this forum does not reach our whole fan base as there would be one visual spectacle that would grab headlines everywhere if we all done it as a fan base - wear blue and white. Imagine the gate with no red and white flags, shirts etc - would be weird (Ipswich colours I hasten to add). Blue and White day at AG - that would hurt and hit home !! We must be thinking alike, I woke up this morning and intended to urge everyone not to wear their colours, no red and white at all, so shirts, no scarves. But your idea is great, everyone wear blue. It’s a colour we widely hate when teamed with white due to ‘that lot’. Everyone must have something blue and/or white at home to wear, so limited cost maximum impact. Can you imagine the publicity when the media dig down into the reasons a fan base chooses to wear their rivals colours ( both Gas and Ipswich) to a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Zod Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Nothing is worse than a poorly supported protest. Is anyone from the fan group leading this? I see we’ve been asked for suggestions so this morning is time to bite the bullet and choose a course of action and spend the next 24 hours spreading the word. I’d like to think a written response to JL letter goes without saying and songs about the issue will evolve spontaneously in the ground so it’s just something big, co-ordinated and visible that’s needed. I’m hoping that fans on here would be happy to help coordinate on the day as this is our only chance to show our frustration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, General Zod said: Nothing is worse than a poorly supported protest. Is anyone from the fan group leading this? I see we’ve been asked for suggestions so this morning is time to bite the bullet and choose a course of action and spend the next 24 hours spreading the word. I’d like to think a written response to JL letter goes without saying and songs about the issue will evolve spontaneously in the ground so it’s just something big, co-ordinated and visible that’s needed. I’m hoping that fans on here would be happy to help coordinate on the day as this is our only chance to show our frustration. This^ completely. The fans groups were speaking for days before JL replied and the message they fed back to us was they were organising 'What a fan protest should look like' - yet a day before the game nothing. Shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: This^ completely. The fans groups were speaking for days before JL replied and the message they fed back to us was they were organising 'What a fan protest should look like' - yet a day before the game nothing. Shocking. In fairness they probably have been organising things behind the scenes, or trying to. It looks like they have just been told they can’t use cards from what @Harrysays above so maybe that is forcing a rethink? But I do agree time is against us and favouring the club at the moment. We need to tip the balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Harry said: Personally, I’m walking out on 30 minutes. Sneaky & Dirty, I’m Out At 30. How about we try and get all of S82 to walk out on a specific minute. And as many others as like in other stands can do the same. An empty corner of the SS would look good visually. Needs only to be for a minute or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, RedM said: In fairness they probably have been organising things behind the scenes, or trying to. It looks like they have just been told they can’t use cards from what @Harrysays above so maybe that is forcing a rethink? Yep. My email had several swear words in it when we were informed that. It’s cos one of the paper aeroplanes thrown hit the ref. So the football club have had to agree to no more card displays this season, or face possible action. Someone from the SC&T board has seen the email from the EFL, so we aren’t making this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Everyone who is considering not renewing holds up a piece of paper with ‘I am an empty seat’ written on it at a set time, then walk out? Everybody can bring a sheet of A4 into the ground, they can’t stop that. The paper can be left on the seat at the end or even collected and given into the club to show a visual reminder of fans feelings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Can we not just turn round with our backs to the pitch and chant "we shall not be moved" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norn Iron Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 This forum is becoming like Bristol City Council of a few years back......nobody can make a decision! Someone make a decision before 10am so it can have a chance to be organised. No colours to be worn or a walk out at a given time by a certain section/all sections or leaving a red paper on seats or all of the above should be easy to achieve and it's cheap. Come on OTIB, prove that we can organise a bun fight in a cake shop. Somebody decide! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 hour ago, 054123 said: I still don' understand why there isn' just a child's price. Could somebody please explain why my 12 year old has to pay more than my 7 year old? That’s a very good point! My son is only 3, so it’s not something I’ve thought about. When he turns 12, why does that suddenly increase my disposable income to enable me to pay more for that exact same person to sit in that same seat..?! I’d love to know the thought process behind this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonPark Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Bar BS3 said: That’s a very good point! My son is only 3, so it’s not something I’ve thought about. When he turns 12, why does that suddenly increase my disposable income to enable me to pay more for that exact same person to sit in that same seat..?! I’d love to know the thought process behind this. To get young kids hooked, if your son is 3 and spending £200 he probably won’t make every game. You make it £50, he gets hooked and then when he’s 12 you have no real choice as he wants to Keep watching city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Zod Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 19 minutes ago, Dollymarie said: Yep. My email had several swear words in it when we were informed that. It’s cos one of the paper aeroplanes thrown hit the ref. So the football club have had to agree to no more card displays this season, or face possible action. Someone from the SC&T board has seen the email from the EFL, so we aren’t making this up. That’s just crazy. So if I make a paper aeroplane out of my programme, ban programs for the entire season? The timing seems very convenient.... personally, we are always being told by the club that the ‘project’ is long term. We don’t go big in the window because that’s not in keeping with the ‘project’ and promotion isn’t the be all and end all so I’m viewing this stage of our relationship with Bristol sport in the same way. If we do something that as a result, impacts on the team, whilst a shame and hopefully avoidable it’s our football watching future and the bigger picture that ultimately matters not just the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Can we not just turn round with our backs to the pitch and chant "we shall not be moved" ? This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, Dollymarie said: Yep. My email had several swear words in it when we were informed that. It’s cos one of the paper aeroplanes thrown hit the ref. So the football club have had to agree to no more card displays this season, or face possible action. Someone from the SC&T board has seen the email from the EFL, so we aren’t making this up. Pyro, planes and warnings... And this people, is why we can't have nice protests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bar BS3 Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 26 minutes ago, exAtyeoMax said: Can we not just turn round with our backs to the pitch and chant "we shall not be moved" ? 2 weeks before you move, pay more or don’t renew (ie move) you mean..?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 35 minutes ago, Bar BS3 said: That’s a very good point! My son is only 3, so it’s not something I’ve thought about. When he turns 12, why does that suddenly increase my disposable income to enable me to pay more for that exact same person to sit in that same seat..?! I’d love to know the thought process behind this. I would think the original idea is to price the under 12 ticket at a level where you, and many others , would say it's only £50 (or whatever) I'll get it and he/she can come now and again. By the age of 12, they would have the mates/banter/ allegiances and would be wanting to go more often. I'd guess the pressure would be on parents to continue with the ST and it would be harder to stop, more revenue. The ticket is no longer a temptation to get fans in , but now a ticket for a real fan, all be it a small one that doesn't have their own income. The amount of money of money you have wouldn't come into their sums at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Peacock Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 10 hours ago, glastored said: Correct. It's a very small window with I imagine lot's of calls trying to transfer.... Especially with all the seats freed up from people not renewing, if they are to be believed. A mad scramble to upgrade seats. Will the system cope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 9 hours ago, Harry said: Some talk of card displays or people holding up red cards. Well, S82 have this afternoon been advised by the Club that we are no longer permitted to use cards for any displays. Apparently, during the Cardiff game where we’d set these up (only to be changed by the club), some of the card was adapted into paper aeroplanes and the referee reported it and we face an FA fine if it happens again. So, any plans involving card or paper is now not permitted. Good this, innit! It's very convenient... However, the club HAVE been under a bit of scrutiny from the EFL and FA and quite a bit SAG earlier in the season, so again if a rep was there from one of these bodies...it could have been reported. I am highly doubtful about this though, and the timing- and whether you believe that it's possible is your prerogative...but I would suggest it's not impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Up The City! Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 8 hours ago, Harry said: Some talk of card displays or people holding up red cards. Well, S82 have this afternoon been advised by the Club that we are no longer permitted to use cards for any displays. Apparently, during the Cardiff game where we’d set these up (only to be changed by the club), some of the card was adapted into paper aeroplanes and the referee reported it and we face an FA fine if it happens again. So, any plans involving card or paper is now not permitted. Good this, innit! I don’t doubt the truth of this but the timing is very very funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjcarrera1974 Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Blue and white day - deffo the way to go - show your support, and a chorus of stand up, if you’re wearing blue and white... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, jjcarrera1974 said: Blue and white day - deffo the way to go - show your support, and a chorus of stand up, if you’re wearing blue and white... ‘Blue &White cos we feel Shyte’ How about that for a chant @Robbored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 ‘White & Blue cos you haven’t got a clue’ that’s a cleaner version. @RobboredI’m on a roll now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 @RedM I still love your “‘making Bristol sad” hashtag! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dollymarie said: @RedM I still love your “‘making Bristol sad” hashtag! I’d love it to catch on, I’ve never achieved anything worthwhile. This could be it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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