Bryans Left Peg Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Can anybody remember having such a weak England side? I'd like to see players actually playing based on form rather than Wilshere, Welbeck, Rose, Lallana, Livermore etc. My team would be (with the WC in mind) - Pickford, Walker, Tarkowski, Maguire, Bertrand, Dier, Henderson, Sterling, Rashford, Alli, Vardy (4-2-3-1) Don't think Dier and Henderson should be picked on form either but out of the list, can't see anybody else who can suit the 'DM' role as effectively. England squad to face the Netherlands and Italy Goalkeepers: Joe Hart, Jack Butland, Jordan Pickford, Nick Pope Defenders: Ryan Bertrand, Danny Rose, Harry Maguire, John Stones, Joe Gomez, James Tarkowski, Alfie Mawson, Kyle Walker, Kieran Trippier Midfielders: Ashley Young, Eric Dier, Lewis Cook, Jake Livermore, Jordan Henderson, Jack Wilshere, Adam Lallana, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Forwards: Raheem Sterling, Marcus Rashford, Jesse Lingard, Dele Alli, Danny Welbeck, Jamie Vardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 No surprise. England have a weak manger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiderEyed Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Bryans Left Peg said: Can anybody remember having such a weak England side? I'd like to see players actually playing based on form rather than Wilshere, Welbeck, Rose, Lallana, Livermore etc. My team would be (with the WC in mind) - Pickford, Walker, Tarkowski, Maguire, Bertrand, Dier, Henderson, Sterling, Rashford, Alli, Vardy (4-2-3-1) Don't think Dier and Henderson should be picked on form either but out of the list, can't see anybody else who can suit the 'DM' role as effectively. England squad to face the Netherlands and Italy Goalkeepers: Joe Hart, Jack Butland, Jordan Pickford, Nick Pope Defenders: Ryan Bertrand, Danny Rose, Harry Maguire, John Stones, Joe Gomez, James Tarkowski, Alfie Mawson, Kyle Walker, Kieran Trippier Midfielders: Ashley Young, Eric Dier, Lewis Cook, Jake Livermore, Jordan Henderson, Jack Wilshere, Adam Lallana, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Forwards: Raheem Sterling, Marcus Rashford, Jesse Lingard, Dele Alli, Danny Welbeck, Jamie Vardy Why the **** is Joe Hart going. Tell you what it's a right far cry from trying to accommodate Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC RISK77 Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Did flint get called up :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheddarReds Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Henderson and Dier in midfield When fit Wilshere is our best central midfielder and the only midfielder England have who could control a game. That's why he's in and why I hope he starts ahead of Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 It truly is a shambolic set up and squad. Lallana has barely kicked a ball for 4 months. Livermore is a poor midfielder in the worst Prem team. Welbeck has been garbage for years. Joe Hart has been accomodated for when he simply is awful. Joe Gomez - I mean seriously? I am truly stunned Lascelles has been overlooked, check his stats this season for Newcastle - he is a rock. Shelvey is also better than Livermore. England have NO CHANCE. Southgate is another FA yes man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, CheddarReds said: Henderson and Dier in midfield When fit Wilshere is our best central midfielder and the only midfielder England have who could control a game. That's why he's in and why I hope he starts ahead of Henderson. Honestly think Wilshere is a completely overrated footballer. Absolute fraud of a footballer who was playing above his level at Bournemouth. Astonishing that he even has one cap for England, let alone keeps being selected. 163 club appearances in 10 years. Yet has 34 for England?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1960maaan Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 57 minutes ago, ZiderEyed said: Why the **** is Joe Hart going. Tell you what it's a right far cry from trying to accommodate Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard in the side. Saved me typing anything. Should never have got in a squad after Iceland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, BA14 RED said: It truly is a shambolic set up and squad. Lallana has barely kicked a ball for 4 months. Livermore is a poor midfielder in the worst Prem team. Welbeck has been garbage for years. Joe Hart has been accomodated for when he simply is awful. Joe Gomez - I mean seriously? I am truly stunned Lascelles has been overlooked, check his stats this season for Newcastle - he is a rock. Shelvey is also better than Livermore. England have NO CHANCE. Southgate is another FA yes man. Have to say, I'm with you BA14 RED. I've said before, if Jake Livermore is the answer, what on earth is the question? Baffling. You kinda wouldn't mind if he's been ripping it up with top class performances in a dreadful team but he hasn't. Joe Hart? Really? Why? Surely we know he's crap. Not needed, otherwise, keepers OK. I can't believe Lascelles hasn't been picked, he deserves a go. A leader. Otherwise, underwhelming. Yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted March 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 22 minutes ago, BA14 RED said: Lallana has barely kicked a ball for 4 months. Livermore is a poor midfielder in the worst Prem team. Welbeck has been garbage for years. Joe Hart has been accomodated for when he simply is awful. Joe Gomez - I mean seriously? Agree with all of that, would also add: Rose - 6 appearances this season Oxlaide-Chamberlain - Mostly sub appearances, would say he's been underwhelming for Liverpool. Wilshere - Just **** off. Absolutely shite. Would've liked to see Sessegnon, Lascelles, Mee and even Glenn Murray who deserved a call up a hell of a lot more than Welbeck based on form (or even ability). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 13 minutes ago, 1960maaan said: Saved me typing anything. Should never have got in a squad after Iceland. Shouldnt have been in the squad that played Iceland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottMurray'srightboot Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Southgate is England's Lee Johnson, Yes man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Maybe Welbeck is in for his diving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNasty Filth Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Southgate needs to be brave and blood the young kids in the summer. Mateland-Niles for Arsenal should walk into that England side. Maybe the best English prospect I’ve seen for ages. Gomez is gonna be hell of player as well, don’t see how people have a got a problem with him, his natural position is central not right. Why not bring foden and the kid from Dortmund in as well, can’t do any harm for them to experience the tournament, rather than journeymen like Livermore, wtf is he doing anywhere near the side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One BCFC Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Sorry but that Joe Gomez is no where near as good as Jamaal Lascelles - we lack clear leadership which he has and is the main reason Newcastle have won many points this season. Another moan is Southgate has overlooked Jadon Sancho from Borussia Dortmund, too. I literally am really fed up with Southgate and England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBFC II Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 I'd honestly have Johnstone in for Hart Sessengnon in for Lallana Joe in for Danny Rose Morrison in for Gomez Maddison in for Livermore Reid in for Welbeck Give some Championship players a go, they are going to give much more for the shirt than those overpaid lot who get about 10 club games a season but still get in our national side. Even if they don't play it'll do them the world of good and gain Southgate the respect of the English public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderCraig Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Robbored said: No surprise. England have a weak manger. What do you look for in home games? Cos I know what I look for away in a manger.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswoodactor Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, JBFC II said: I'd honestly have Johnstone in for Hart Sessengnon in for Lallana Joe in for Danny Rose Morrison in for Gomez Maddison in for Livermore Reid in for Welbeck Give some Championship players a go, they are going to give much more for the shirt than those overpaid lot who get about 10 club games a season but still get in our national side. Even if they don't play it'll do them the world of good and gain Southgate the respect of the English public Would bloody love that. Gunn at Norwich deserves a shout too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 Selects 4 keepers just so he doesn't have to drop Hart, Unless they're all going to play 45 minutes each over the two games its a pointless selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Bryans Left Peg said: Can anybody remember having such a weak England side? I'd like to see players actually playing based on form rather than Wilshere, Welbeck, Rose, Lallana, Livermore etc. My team would be (with the WC in mind) - Pickford, Walker, Tarkowski, Maguire, Bertrand, Dier, Henderson, Sterling, Rashford, Alli, Vardy (4-2-3-1) Don't think Dier and Henderson should be picked on form either but out of the list, can't see anybody else who can suit the 'DM' role as effectively. England squad to face the Netherlands and Italy Goalkeepers: Joe Hart, Jack Butland, Jordan Pickford, Nick Pope Defenders: Ryan Bertrand, Danny Rose, Harry Maguire, John Stones, Joe Gomez, James Tarkowski, Alfie Mawson, Kyle Walker, Kieran Trippier Midfielders: Ashley Young, Eric Dier, Lewis Cook, Jake Livermore, Jordan Henderson, Jack Wilshere, Adam Lallana, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Forwards: Raheem Sterling, Marcus Rashford, Jesse Lingard, Dele Alli, Danny Welbeck, Jamie Vardy Worst England squad in decades. Our window to win a tournament closed years ago, we haven’t got a chance now IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Red Posted March 15, 2018 Report Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 hours ago, BA14 RED said: Sorry but that Joe Gomez is no where near as good as Jamaal Lascelles - we lack clear leadership which he has and is the main reason Newcastle have won many points this season. Another moan is Southgate has overlooked Jadon Sancho from Borussia Dortmund, too. I literally am really fed up with Southgate and England. Jadon Sancho over that waster Jack Wilshere all day long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRock Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Bryans Left Peg said: Can anybody remember having such a weak England side? I'd like to see players actually playing based on form rather than Wilshere, Welbeck, Rose, Lallana, Livermore etc. My team would be (with the WC in mind) - Pickford, Walker, Tarkowski, Maguire, Bertrand, Dier, Henderson, Sterling, Rashford, Alli, Vardy (4-2-3-1) Don't think Dier and Henderson should be picked on form either but out of the list, can't see anybody else who can suit the 'DM' role as effectively. England squad to face the Netherlands and Italy Goalkeepers: Joe Hart, Jack Butland, Jordan Pickford, Nick Pope Defenders: Ryan Bertrand, Danny Rose, Harry Maguire, John Stones, Joe Gomez, James Tarkowski, Alfie Mawson, Kyle Walker, Kieran Trippier Midfielders: Ashley Young, Eric Dier, Lewis Cook, Jake Livermore, Jordan Henderson, Jack Wilshere, Adam Lallana, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain Forwards: Raheem Sterling, Marcus Rashford, Jesse Lingard, Dele Alli, Danny Welbeck, Jamie Vardy Christ. That midfield!!!!! Woeful. Looking at that squad, I should have arranged my Summer holidays to take place during the tournament rather than around it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Robbored said: No surprise. England have a weak manger. Who should've been picked then??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 hours ago, JBFC II said: I'd honestly have Johnstone in for Hart Sessengnon in for Lallana Joe in for Danny Rose Morrison in for Gomez Maddison in for Livermore Reid in for Welbeck Give some Championship players a go, they are going to give much more for the shirt than those overpaid lot who get about 10 club games a season but still get in our national side. Even if they don't play it'll do them the world of good and gain Southgate the respect of the English public Apart from Lallana and Gomez I wouldn't disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bard Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 3 hours ago, BA14 RED said: Sorry but that Joe Gomez is no where near as good as Jamaal Lascelles - we lack clear leadership which he has and is the main reason Newcastle have won many points this season. Another moan is Southgate has overlooked Jadon Sancho from Borussia Dortmund, too. I literally am really fed up with Southgate and England. Literally fed up. Lozzers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryans Left Peg Posted March 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Bard said: Who should've been picked then??? Goalkeepers: Butland, Pickford, Pope Defenders: Bertrand, Sessegnon, Maguire, Tarkowski, Stones, Mee, Lascelles, Walker, Alexander-Arnold Midfielders: Dier, Henderson, Cook, Shelvey, Redmond, Young, Ox, Albrighton Forwards: Vardy, Murray, Rashford, Sterling, Alli, Lingard and our very own Bobby Reid (joke) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carey 6 Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 Let’s be honest, we’ve had some of the worlds best players in the team all at once before and it’s not worked out for us. I actually don’t think the players we have currently are that bad, the starting 11 will certainly be strong, we just lack a bit of depth. This squad looks a lot worse because it’s 27 and not the usual 23 you see get called up, it’s an extra 4 mediocre players who normally wouldn’t be there. The squad id take to the World Cup would be. Pope, Pickford, Butland Walker, Clyne, Jones, Stones, Maguire, Tarkowski/Cahill, Rose, Delph. Alli, Wilshere, Henderson, Oxlade Chamberlain, Lingard, Dier, Lallana Sterling, Kane, Vardy, Rashford, Calvert Lewin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 In fairness he is picking from an average bunch which is now missing our best player. Shelvey should be in though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 12 hours ago, BA14 RED said: It truly is a shambolic set up and squad. Lallana has barely kicked a ball for 4 months. Livermore is a poor midfielder in the worst Prem team. Welbeck has been garbage for years. Joe Hart has been accomodated for when he simply is awful. Joe Gomez - I mean seriously? I am truly stunned Lascelles has been overlooked, check his stats this season for Newcastle - he is a rock. Shelvey is also better than Livermore. England have NO CHANCE. Southgate is another FA yes man. Was very good against Brazil and Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIDER NOT CIDRE Posted March 16, 2018 Report Share Posted March 16, 2018 2004: James, Neville, Campbell, Terry, A.Cole, Beckham, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard, J.Cole, Rooney. Now that is some eleven. Anyone else look at the current squad and think, 'this is the weakest set of names playing for England I've ever set my eyes on?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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