Admin Maesknoll Red Posted March 19, 2018 Admin Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 I might be a Luddite, but driverless cars, no, can’t be right.... https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/technology/uber-driverless-fatality.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanburyRed Posted March 19, 2018 Report Share Posted March 19, 2018 Complete red herring, autonomous vehicles. Still need same space on the road, will need to share the roads still. Congestion won't go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 It will happen one day for sure. If all cars are driverless then there technically should be less traffic. I have seen them being tested in the UK on motorways. I predict next ten years it will be the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erithacus Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 Sad case when such an event happens. One fatality will naturally attract attention. There was another a few years ago when a tractor pulled out into an autonomous vehicle's path (in America). What you don't get to hear about is the huge number of fatalities that 'normal' drivers are involved with day to day. The rates for non-autonomous crashes are rather different. Autonomous vehicles are going to be pushed by the various authorities so will be more prevalent. The real question is how hard will they enforce it on the public. Could the rules dictate that they will be the norm or will we have any say in the matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 5 hours ago, RedDave said: It will happen one day for sure. If all cars are driverless then there technically should be less traffic. I have seen them being tested in the UK on motorways. I predict next ten years it will be the norm. Wouldn’t there by more cars on the road because I’m guessing nobody would need a driving license so in theory every human in the world could own one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Hunt-Hertz Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 I`m sticking to my leg operated, dependent, old-fashioned push bike, thank `ee very glad. I`m having nowt to do with those bloody robots....the supermarket tills are bad enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: Wouldn’t there by more cars on the road because I’m guessing nobody would need a driving license so in theory every human in the world could own one No one would need to own a car, it would be like Uber and you just request them. Furthermore there would be less traffic as they can talk to each other and go the best/quickest route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Selred said: No one would need to own a car, it would be like Uber and you just request them. Furthermore there would be less traffic as they can talk to each other and go the best/quickest route I wouldn't be totally at ease , ahem , " spooning " , in a driverless car that ' talks ' to other parties . " Car 2 , the Major's pulled again ." " Car 3 , the randy old bugger . Is he with that blonde again ? " ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erithacus Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 They'll have to have a stretched limo with the blacked-out windows for you, Major! Strictly need to know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 Hover cars are the answer. I`m sure William Woolard said on Tomorrow`s World that we`d all have them by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted March 20, 2018 Report Share Posted March 20, 2018 20 hours ago, Maesknoll Red said: I might be a Luddite, but driverless cars, no, can’t be right.... https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/technology/uber-driverless-fatality.html The current situation isn't exactly ideal given there are over 1.25 million people killed each year on the roads, globally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted March 21, 2018 Report Share Posted March 21, 2018 On 20/03/2018 at 09:19, Selred said: No one would need to own a car, it would be like Uber and you just request them. Furthermore there would be less traffic as they can talk to each other and go the best/quickest route I believe this is the idea. No need to own a car. As we don’t need to own a plane to go abroad, or a train to, erm, get ripped off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 9 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: I believe this is the idea. No need to own a car. As we don’t need to own a plane to go abroad, or a train to, erm, get ripped off? So if you wanted to nip up the shop for a loaf of bread you would have to wait around for one of these to show up,for that reason I’m out I suppose it would at least get the taxi drivers off the road but onto the dole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhistleHappy Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 On 20/03/2018 at 07:02, Juan Kerr said: I`m sticking to my leg operated, dependent, old-fashioned push bike, thank `ee very glad. I`m having nowt to do with those bloody robots....the supermarket tills are bad enough. Re Shop/Supermarket Till's I absolutely refuse to use those damn DIY self serve things... Wrong on so many levels, loss of personal face to face service with fellow humans, inevitable loss of jobs, less community interactions.. Autonomous thin edge of the wedge imo of a sad impersonal robotic future, and decline of humanity generally . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, WhistleHappy said: Re Shop/Supermarket Till's I absolutely refuse to use those damn DIY self serve things... Wrong on so many levels, loss of personal face to face service with fellow humans, inevitable loss of jobs, less community interactions.. Autonomous thin edge of the wedge imo of a sad impersonal robotic future, and decline of humanity generally . Many years ago , at my local bank there were two members of staff who approached every customer proposing ' the new inter net ' bank account . I delicately pointed out to them that they were like turkeys voting for Christmas, before declining their offer. The staff are no longer working there. The branch closed down . How much longer before society no longer has need of human beings ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anglo-Welsh Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: Many years ago , at my local bank there were two members of staff who approached every customer proposing ' the new inter net ' bank account . I delicately pointed out to them that they were like turkeys voting for Christmas, before declining their offer. The staff are no longer working there. The branch closed down . How much longer before society no longer has need of human beings ? Well said Major. All jokes aside, I would actually pay more in any service industry to deal with and be served by human beings. Nothing worse than having to pick up the phone to go through robotic answering machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erithacus Posted March 22, 2018 Report Share Posted March 22, 2018 The end of the Human race has been long expected - it's just a question of when and how. Will it be some cataclysmic disaster or will it be of our own volition? As Mr Bowie once sang: "The earth is a bitch We've finished our news Homo Sapiens have outgrown their use All the strangers came today And it looks as though they're here to stay" I'm off to bash my ZX80 - there's no saying how far they will take over.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 20 hours ago, Erithacus said: The end of the Human race has been long expected - it's just a question of when and how. Will it be some cataclysmic disaster or will it be of our own volition? As Mr Bowie once sang: "The earth is a bitch We've finished our news Homo Sapiens have outgrown their use All the strangers came today And it looks as though they're here to stay" I'm off to bash my ZX80 - there's no saying how far they will take over.... Well I for one welcome our new insect overlords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 23, 2018 Report Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: Well I for one welcome our new insect overlords. Cockroaches will see all humans and machines off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 12 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: Cockroaches will see all humans and machines off And the Jedi religion outlast all others will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Maesknoll Red Posted March 24, 2018 Author Admin Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 14 hours ago, Red Right Hand said: And the Jedi religion outlast all others will. I’d prefer atheism to become the everlasting way..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 It was more like "pedestrian steps in front of moving car without looking". No difference whether there was a human driver or not, same outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, Nibor said: It was more like "pedestrian steps in front of moving car without looking". No difference whether there was a human driver or not, same outcome. A human can get a sense of what another human might do,a computer can’t because well.... it’s a computer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibor Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 12 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: A human can get a sense of what another human might do,a computer can’t because well.... it’s a computer Actually there is vast amount a computer can learn about what a human might do through machine learning. But in this case it wouldn't have mattered either way, there is video of the incident and there was nothing any driver could have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 16 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: A human can get a sense of what another human might do,a computer can’t because well.... it’s a computer But there was a human in the autonomous car able to override. Quote Then on Sunday night, an autonomous car operated by Uber — and with an emergency backup driver behind the wheel — struck and killed a woman on a street in Tempe, Ariz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erithacus Posted March 25, 2018 Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 There is the video footage on YouTube now. It appears to show a woman pushing her bicycle across a multi-lane road at night and getting hit. No obvious sign of any reaction by the car. The video also appears to show the 'driver' otherwise occupied at the controls. Not sure what that all means in the aftermath, but the minds of the interested parties must be fully engaged now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 9 hours ago, JamesBCFC said: But there was a human in the autonomous car able to override. In the video the human isn’t even looking at the road until the very last second presumably because they aren’t driving it so naturally their mind is not fully concentrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taz Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Computers malfunction, crashes inevitable (more ways than one!). People are becoming lazier as it is, don't help them along!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selred Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 On 22/03/2018 at 06:54, joe jordans teeth said: So if you wanted to nip up the shop for a loaf of bread you would have to wait around for one of these to show up,for that reason I’m out I suppose it would at least get the taxi drivers off the road but onto the dole. Well they will pretty much be instant. Look how many cars are on your neighbours drives when you pop out, think of how many cars aren’t used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesBCFC Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 7 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: In the video the human isn’t even looking at the road until the very last second presumably because they aren’t driving it so naturally their mind is not fully concentrating Givem they're being paid to be the backup driver, surely they should have been paying attention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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