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#1 User is offline   Godzilla 

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 04:11 PM

As the more articulate and observant of you may have noticed (without wishing to offend the fools that hadn't), a few of us have started to use a new signature on this forum. This new signature is all part of a small (well, pretty tiny actually) message board campaign a couple of us forum users have decided to start up; ‘Campaign Believe'.

The amount of negativity I have been hearing in the stands, on the radio, in the pubs and on this very Internet forum is startling. Every misplaced pass is greeted by a collective groan, every poor first touch is followed by cries of "Get him (your son) off Johnson!", and every player we try to sign is apparently rubbish without even kicking a ball for this football club.

Of course, there is a big difference between being a moaner and being a realistic, or perhaps more accurately, a constructive critic. After all, for every positive offered by a goal we score, there is a negative in every one we concede (apparently it was Lee Johnson's fault). A good case in point was the game on Saturday. Whilst it was a superb game of football, and we really played some very good football in patches, it still highlighted which positions we are sadly lacking in, and which players would in all likelihood be badly exposed should we be promoted to the Championship.

However, it's those that fail to see the positives that irk me slightly. Those who phone in to the radio to talk about the mistake's we've made before even considering what we did well. Those that single out certain players and spend the entire game waiting for them to slip up and make a mistake, whilst being completely ignorant to every piece of quality they produce. Those who just don't believe in our club, our board, our manager, or our players.

Well, we're now just over half way through the season. We're 4th in the league, still in 2 cup competitions and have a lot of football to play, and an awful lot to play for. With this in mind, us at 'Campaign Believe' figure it's time we began to get behind this team with 100% positive support. That doesn't mean you have to be happy clappy... oh no, you can be 100% supportive and still tell us all why we're only 4th and not 1st. But we have a massive few of months ahead of us, and we all need to play a part in helping this team take us to where we all want to be.

It's time to ask yourself if you believe, because if you do, we encourage you to use the wonderfully created signature below (made by Madger). This way, next time you make a post stating your concerns and criticisms, we all know that you still believe.

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Simply copy and paste the code above into your signature.

Thanks for your time.
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 04:55 PM

My subscription and application form is in the post, I just hope it gets accepted.
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 04:56 PM

QUOTE(Godzilla @ Jan 9 2007, 4:11 PM) View Post
As the more articulate and observant of you may have noticed (without wishing to offend the fools that hadn't), a few of us have started to use a new signature on this forum. This new signature is all part of a small (well, pretty tiny actually) message board campaign a couple of us forum users have decided to start up; ‘Campaign Believe'.

The amount of negativity I have been hearing in the stands, on the radio, in the pubs and on this very Internet forum is startling. Every misplaced pass is greeted by a collective groan, every poor first touch is followed by cries of "Get him (your son) off Johnson!", and every player we try to sign is apparently rubbish without even kicking a ball for this football club.

Of course, there is a big difference between being a moaner and being a realistic, or perhaps more accurately, a constructive critic. After all, for every positive offered by a goal we score, there is a negative in every one we concede (apparently it was Lee Johnson's fault). A good case in point was the game on Saturday. Whilst it was a superb game of football, and we really played some very good football in patches, it still highlighted which positions we are sadly lacking in, and which players would in all likelihood be badly exposed should we be promoted to the Championship.

However, it's those that fail to see the positives that irk me slightly. Those who phone in to the radio to talk about the mistake's we've made before even considering what we did well. Those that single out certain players and spend the entire game waiting for them to slip up and make a mistake, whilst being completely ignorant to every piece of quality they produce. Those who just don't believe in our club, our board, our manager, or our players.

Well, we're now just over half way through the season. We're 4th in the league, still in 2 cup competitions and have a lot of football to play, and an awful lot to play for. With this in mind, us at 'Campaign Believe' figure it's time we began to get behind this team with 100% positive support. That doesn't mean you have to be happy clappy... oh no, you can be 100% supportive and still tell us all why we're only 4th and not 1st. But we have a massive few of months ahead of us, and we all need to play a part in helping this team take us to where we all want to be.

It's time to ask yourself if you believe, because if you do, we encourage you to use the wonderfully created signature below (made by Madger). This way, next time you make a post stating your concerns and criticisms, we all know that you still believe.

CODE
[center][img]http://madger.bcfcpics. co.uk/sigs/believe.gif[/img][/center]


Simply copy and paste the code above into your signature.

Thanks for your time.


Damn Good Shout, Sick to death of the constant and on many occasions totally unjustified stick/abuse that Johnson, the team and the club as a whole get on here, some people seriously tend to believe that they know alot more about football than people actually employed to do the job within the club.

On a side note, I thought I was special when Madger sent me instructions yesterday on how to use the siggy, still at least I am a trend setting and not a flock follower!
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 05:00 PM

QUOTE(bh_red @ Jan 9 2007, 4:56 PM) View Post
Damn Good Shout, Sick to death of the constant and on many occasions totally unjustified stick/abuse that Johnson, the team and the club as a whole get on here, some people seriously tend to believe that they know alot more about football than people actually employed to do the job within the club.

On a side note, I thought I was special when Madger sent me instructions yesterday on how to use the siggy, still at least I am a trend setting and not a flock follower!


Have you not seen the other part of your signature?!
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 05:28 PM

Whilst applauding your intention in the areas you outline & discuss, I would ask you to be careful that you don't consolidate this Forum into factions.

Happy Clappy-Realistic-Believers-Moaners-Take Your Pic.

I won't be including your signature, not because I disagree with a number of the points you make, more because my opinions are mine and don't reflect the views of the club, the board or other fans.This forum is read by many but the majority of the fans at AG probably don't read it and many have never heard of it.

I'll change my mind if I want and I'll always praise and criticise as I always have.I'm not a GJ or SL fan.Neither am I a detractor or oblivious of their acheivements.The same applies to the players and I have no favourites.If they're good, they're good.If they stink then I say so and why.Others do the same and I don't have a problem with it.GJ has made numerous good decisions and I have pointed that out at the time.GJ, like all other managers, has made some poor ones and pointing that out doesn't make you dangerous or an agent provovateur as he and some others would have it.

In the same way the medias job is to report what they see-Not support the manager/chairman at all costs like some govt owned press in some tinpot dictatorship.

The people that niggle me are the "You said six months ago" merchants and the dangerous people are those that offer unconditional support because they lack the nouse to see that can lead the club into crisis.Disenting voices, providing that disent is reasoned and open to discussion are a good thing on balance.

I don't like people, for example, who pick on LJ becuase he's the managers son.By all means criticise the lad as a player-That's fair ,providing it's in equal measure to the other players and takes into account all the player does, good & bad.

We all want the club to do well.

All we disagree on is the best way to do it.........plus the EE, MS, Premier Club and a few other things.

Keep smiling city.gif city.gif


Football in this country is in an interesting stage.It has never been richer,never been more widely exposed,never felt so secure and yet,I suggest, it has never been so little loved. It elevates small men to positions of passing influence.It indulges them and takes them seriously.In its arrogance, its smugness, its unthinking complacency, football just doesn't get it.It's a great pity.

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Poster of The Year Bronze Medalist
Most Annoying Poster-Silver Medalist
Biggest Moaner-Gold Medalist-The Big One's Back in The Cabinet
Unfunniest-Bronze Medalist

Even More Awards......No Money Soon & I'm Off

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Poster of The Year-Gold Medalist........Told You I Was Right!
Moaner of The Year-Bronze Medalist.
Most Annoying Poster-Bronze Medalist.

More Awards.......The Money's Bound To Turn Up Sooner Or Later
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 05:43 PM

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 06:01 PM

I applaud the sentiments behind this initiative. The amount of whingeing negativity on here and at Ashton Gate has been a bugbear of mine for years. Of course no-one is above criticism, and football being the passionate game it is, sometimes those views will be firmly expressed. But I am convinced that some City fans only find some personal level of fulfillment when they are deeply miserable. I believe!
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 06:03 PM

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Simply copy and paste the code above into your signature.

Thanks for your time.


Cheesy, but I like it!

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 06:24 PM

QUOTE(Bristol Boy @ Jan 9 2007, 5:28 PM) View Post
Whilst applauding your intention in the areas you outline & discuss, I would ask you to be careful that you don't consolidate this Forum into factions.

Happy Clappy-Realistic-Believers-Moaners-Take Your Pic.

I won't be including your signature, not because I disagree with a number of the points you make, more because my opinions are mine and don't reflect the views of the club, the board or other fans.This forum is read by many but the majority of the fans at AG probably don't read it and many have never heard of it.

I'll change my mind if I want and I'll always praise and criticise as I always have.I'm not a GJ or SL fan.Neither am I a detractor or oblivious of their acheivements.The same applies to the players and I have no favourites.If they're good, they're good.If they stink then I say so and why.Others do the same and I don't have a problem with it.GJ has made numerous good decisions and I have pointed that out at the time.GJ, like all other managers, has made some poor ones and pointing that out doesn't make you dangerous or an agent provovateur as he and some others would have it.

In the same way the medias job is to report what they see-Not support the manager/chairman at all costs like some govt owned press in some tinpot dictatorship.

The people that niggle me are the "You said six months ago" merchants and the dangerous people are those that offer unconditional support because they lack the nouse to see that can lead the club into crisis.Disenting voices, providing that disent is reasoned and open to discussion are a good thing on balance.

I don't like people, for example, who pick on LJ becuase he's the managers son.By all means criticise the lad as a player-That's fair ,providing it's in equal measure to the other players and takes into account all the player does, good & bad.

We all want the club to do well.

All we disagree on is the best way to do it.........plus the EE, MS, Premier Club and a few other things.

Keep smiling city.gif city.gif


I have to be honest when I say that on many occasions 'Bristol Boy' justifiably earns his 'Most Annoying' Silver Medal, in my eyes he was perhaps due more recognition in this field than he actually got. devil.gif

However the above is an excellent post, I agree with and very much respect the sentiments expressed.

Having said this I shall update my signature accordingly as the levels of consistent, unnecessary negativity on these boards often leave me gritting my teeth whilst unsure if I'm imagining that we are 1 win off the top and still in 2 cups.

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#10 User is offline   Godzilla 

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE(Bristol Boy @ Jan 9 2007, 5:28 PM) View Post
Whilst applauding your intention in the areas you outline & discuss, I would ask you to be careful that you don't consolidate this Forum into factions.

Happy Clappy-Realistic-Believers-Moaners-Take Your Pic.

I won't be including your signature, not because I disagree with a number of the points you make, more because my opinions are mine and don't reflect the views of the club, the board or other fans.This forum is read by many but the majority of the fans at AG probably don't read it and many have never heard of it.

I'll change my mind if I want and I'll always praise and criticise as I always have.I'm not a GJ or SL fan.Neither am I a detractor or oblivious of their acheivements.The same applies to the players and I have no favourites.If they're good, they're good.If they stink then I say so and why.Others do the same and I don't have a problem with it.GJ has made numerous good decisions and I have pointed that out at the time.GJ, like all other managers, has made some poor ones and pointing that out doesn't make you dangerous or an agent provovateur as he and some others would have it.

In the same way the medias job is to report what they see-Not support the manager/chairman at all costs like some govt owned press in some tinpot dictatorship.

The people that niggle me are the "You said six months ago" merchants and the dangerous people are those that offer unconditional support because they lack the nouse to see that can lead the club into crisis.Disenting voices, providing that disent is reasoned and open to discussion are a good thing on balance.

I don't like people, for example, who pick on LJ becuase he's the managers son.By all means criticise the lad as a player-That's fair ,providing it's in equal measure to the other players and takes into account all the player does, good & bad.

We all want the club to do well.

All we disagree on is the best way to do it.........plus the EE, MS, Premier Club and a few other things.

Keep smiling city.gif city.gif


Like Jimmy, I think you make some excellent points, actually.

I think the point of the excercise, whilst being slightly tongue-in-cheek as much as anything, is to try and get fans to come together and be as positive as possible in supporting GJ and his players over what is a crucial period for our football club.

As I point out, nobody is immune from criticism and every one of us has the right to voice an opinion whether it's negative or positive. But as you say, it's all about balance and it would be nice to see a little more of that.

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 06:35 PM

I think it is a great idea, good thinking Godzilla. Very well made sig by Madger as well. As it says in Jimmy's sig 'The only way is up'
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE(Godzilla @ Jan 9 2007, 4:11 PM) View Post
As the more articulate and observant of you may have noticed (without wishing to offend the fools that hadn't), a few of us have started to use a new signature on this forum. This new signature is all part of a small (well, pretty tiny actually) message board campaign a couple of us forum users have decided to start up; ‘Campaign Believe'.

The amount of negativity I have been hearing in the stands, on the radio, in the pubs and on this very Internet forum is startling. Every misplaced pass is greeted by a collective groan, every poor first touch is followed by cries of "Get him (your son) off Johnson!", and every player we try to sign is apparently rubbish without even kicking a ball for this football club.

Of course, there is a big difference between being a moaner and being a realistic, or perhaps more accurately, a constructive critic. After all, for every positive offered by a goal we score, there is a negative in every one we concede (apparently it was Lee Johnson's fault). A good case in point was the game on Saturday. Whilst it was a superb game of football, and we really played some very good football in patches, it still highlighted which positions we are sadly lacking in, and which players would in all likelihood be badly exposed should we be promoted to the Championship.

However, it's those that fail to see the positives that irk me slightly. Those who phone in to the radio to talk about the mistake's we've made before even considering what we did well. Those that single out certain players and spend the entire game waiting for them to slip up and make a mistake, whilst being completely ignorant to every piece of quality they produce. Those who just don't believe in our club, our board, our manager, or our players.

Well, we're now just over half way through the season. We're 4th in the league, still in 2 cup competitions and have a lot of football to play, and an awful lot to play for. With this in mind, us at 'Campaign Believe' figure it's time we began to get behind this team with 100% positive support. That doesn't mean you have to be happy clappy... oh no, you can be 100% supportive and still tell us all why we're only 4th and not 1st. But we have a massive few of months ahead of us, and we all need to play a part in helping this team take us to where we all want to be.

It's time to ask yourself if you believe, because if you do, we encourage you to use the wonderfully created signature below (made by Madger). This way, next time you make a post stating your concerns and criticisms, we all know that you still believe.

CODE
[center][img]http://madger.bcfcpics. co.uk/sigs/believe.gif[/img][/center]


Simply copy and paste the code above into your signature.

Thanks for your time.


Best post l think l've seen on here. chant6ez.gif clapping.gif superman.gif

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE(Bristol Boy @ Jan 9 2007, 5:28 PM) View Post
Whilst applauding your intention in the areas you outline & discuss, I would ask you to be careful that you don't consolidate this Forum into factions.

Happy Clappy-Realistic-Believers-Moaners-Take Your Pic.

I won't be including your signature, not because I disagree with a number of the points you make, more because my opinions are mine and don't reflect the views of the club, the board or other fans.This forum is read by many but the majority of the fans at AG probably don't read it and many have never heard of it.

I'll change my mind if I want and I'll always praise and criticise as I always have.I'm not a GJ or SL fan.Neither am I a detractor or oblivious of their acheivements.The same applies to the players and I have no favourites.If they're good, they're good.If they stink then I say so and why.Others do the same and I don't have a problem with it.GJ has made numerous good decisions and I have pointed that out at the time.GJ, like all other managers, has made some poor ones and pointing that out doesn't make you dangerous or an agent provovateur as he and some others would have it.

In the same way the medias job is to report what they see-Not support the manager/chairman at all costs like some govt owned press in some tinpot dictatorship.

The people that niggle me are the "You said six months ago" merchants and the dangerous people are those that offer unconditional support because they lack the nouse to see that can lead the club into crisis.Disenting voices, providing that disent is reasoned and open to discussion are a good thing on balance.

I don't like people, for example, who pick on LJ becuase he's the managers son.By all means criticise the lad as a player-That's fair ,providing it's in equal measure to the other players and takes into account all the player does, good & bad.

We all want the club to do well.

All we disagree on is the best way to do it.........plus the EE, MS, Premier Club and a few other things.

Keep smiling :city: :city:


Agreed BB - I won't be adding it either for much the same reasons as you.

I will BELIEVE when we get there and not before - 100% support - yes ! Pay for my season ticket up front - yes !

Never slag off a player because of who he is related to - yes !

Never boo at AG other than the ref - yes !

Point out the obvious weaknesses - yes !

Put up with board insults for not thinking GJ has proved anything yet - yes !

State that the game has been great entertainment or not - yes !

But BELIEVE - fraid not - too many season tickets paid for over too many seasons to be so blindly over optimistic !

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 06:42 PM



I agree and I believe!!!!!

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:00 PM

i am a believer... great post by the way! clapping.gif
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:04 PM

bet you basso would drop the 'believe' sign
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:04 PM

"Alway's Believe"
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:08 PM

good luck with it, you'll need it farmer.gif

i'm trying to belive but at this moment in time i'll stay here.



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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:19 PM

I will believe when we have achieved something! disapointed2se.gif
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:29 PM

I like what Godzilla and friends have tried to do as well but it has made me put finger to keyboard about a couple of things that I've been thinking lately about this subject.

First. As far back as I can remember City supporters have always been moaners. You can see from my ID that I've supported City a long time and I've also been reading up about the era before my time. A City captain from the early 1950s, for instance, was reported as saying that "playing at Ashton Gate is more like playing in front of a jury than a crowd of supporters". So I conclude from that that there's nothing new in what we hear now.

Second. Are we any worse than many other places? I am pretty well travelled to other grounds and overall I would say that the bigger the club, the bigger the expectations and the bigger the moans. Conversely, I remember going to Chesterfield when they were bottom when Tistimitanu scored. The Chesterfield supporters never got on the backs of their players once in the whole game even though their team as a whole was rubbish. And although places like Liverpool, Newcastle and Manchester have had a reputuation for supporting their team no matter what when you are there you can hear loads of moans. I think moaning is a way that a lot of people let off steam, so AG will continue to be an outlet for it. Many individual moans will nly be picked up by those round the moaner - that's why GJ was reacting to possibl;y one or maybe two people at the Oreient match when they appeared to be criticising Lee. What is more damaging is when groups of supporters boo their own team or manager. I find myself very uncomfortable listening to that. Why not just score an own goal ?

Third. Lots of the focus of the negativity is here on the forum. Its has been much worse here than at Ashton Gate. I think some players and staff have read what was on here and may still do but I don't think the forum as a whole influences much of what goes on in the club and if the forum is overly negative then I am pleased that it doesn;t influnce the club..

Fourth - and the reason I support Godzilla in his efforts - is that psychologically people do better when praised or supported. That's why in the whole history of football more matches are won by home teams every season than away. Therefore home support makes a difference to the score. Therefore anything that is done to support our team vocally will help our team win. Since we ARE a big club in league one in terms of support we can make a difference home and away. It doesn't make real sense as to why City supporters would try to undermine what City are trying to achieve, by moaning and whinging and therefore possibly detrimentally affecting team performance. Some say "I pay my money so I am entitled to comment". I prefer to bite my tongue when City are playing badly and use my vocal support as much possible otherwise.

Well, that's my take on things anyway
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:35 PM

Maybe if more fans tried some vocal support it might make a real difference?
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:43 PM

QUOTE(Brianred @ Jan 9 2007, 7:19 PM) View Post
I will believe when we have achieved something! disapointed2se.gif


Me to Brian, been about a bit to long to start beliving.
Not that i don't want it mate though!
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  Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:44 PM

QUOTE(cider head @ Jan 9 2007, 7:08 PM) View Post
good luck with it, you'll need it farmer.gif

i'm trying to belive but at this moment in time i'll stay here.



seen too many if only's to last a life time.

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:45 PM

Cobblers
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:48 PM

QUOTE(MaloneFM @ Jan 9 2007, 7:45 PM) View Post
Cobblers


what's northampton got to do with it? w00t.gif


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Posted 09 January 2007 - 07:55 PM

As long as City have better luck than England did with MARS changing their name to "Believe" for their World Cup "Believe campaign" . . .


http://www.marsbelieve.com/

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 08:28 PM

I thought thats what we were voting for.

Home come you can't get those anymore? Where did the Walkers salt and Lineker and cheese and Owen flavours go as well?

Can anyone spell 'marketing ploy disguised as support?'
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 10:36 PM

i just want to point out that i think people wanting to be positive is good,
i got no problem with that and Madger signature is very good and i am not
having a go at fellow fans, what i'm saying is the stand i want to sit in is shut,
only to fans of the future when the atyeo stand is a family stand,
my fav player is getting splinters in is arse (not playing) letters dished out
to where i sit when other stands stand without problem etc
so i'm feeling a bit frustrated from my point of view, my picture was representing that view and not
a dig at fellow fans who wish to be positive and i don't want to fish out this thread
as a certain few posters do on EE threads thats not my intention.


lets hope you get what you wish for ie: PROMOTION.

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 10:51 PM

Just a bit coltish and clonish for my liking man - whatever though, the underlying principle's admirable and the aesthetics are praise worthy.

I believe because I'm a believing sort of chap because what is a chap without belief? May as well pack it all in right now without belief.

''...walk on through the wind, walk on through the rain though your dreams be tossed and blown - walk on, walk on with hope in your heart and You'll Never Walk Alone...'' as the classic anthem goes....

Only wish this passion was habitually evident on matchdays at Ashton Gate.


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Posted 09 January 2007 - 11:09 PM

It's apparent that you have some connections with the club?
It says that you work on World & so much be well in with the City crowd.

This is the sort of thing I have done to well impress my boss on our internal intranet.

Bet you got a few pat on the backs when you got into work after this post.

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For my part, I reckon this is our season & there is something about Gary Johnson's approach that makes me feel that something is going to happen.
I hope its promotion, but it could well be a decent cup run.

We as fans really do need to give it 100% & as showed on Saturday with real positive backing we can help to drive the team on.

Watching Liverpool tonite it was amazing to hear the kop still singing after their team was 6-3 down.

Godzilla, we are going to keep the faith - this IS our season
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Posted 09 January 2007 - 11:34 PM

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Posted 09 January 2007 - 11:49 PM

QUOTE(Red to the world @ Jan 9 2007, 6:42 PM) View Post
Agreed BB - I won't be adding it either for much the same reasons as you.

I will BELIEVE when we get there and not before - 100% support - yes ! Pay for my season ticket up front - yes !

Never slag off a player because of who he is related to - yes !

Never boo at AG other than the ref - yes !

Point out the obvious weaknesses - yes !

Put up with board insults for not thinking GJ has proved anything yet - yes !

State that the game has been great entertainment or not - yes !

But BELIEVE - fraid not - too many season tickets paid for over too many seasons to be so blindly over optimistic !



Thats the spirit!!! I bet Christmas was fun at your house
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 12:05 AM

QUOTE(Bristol Boy @ Jan 9 2007, 5:28 PM) View Post
The people that niggle me are the "You said six months ago" merchants


Is that because we were right and you were wrong? Oh I forgot, you've reserved the right to change your mind - how convienient!

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I don't like people, for example, who pick on LJ becuase he's the managers son.By all means criticise the lad as a player-That's fair ,providing it's in equal measure to the other players and takes into account all the player does, good & bad.


Agreed.

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 12:09 AM

QUOTE(badger22 @ Jan 9 2007, 11:49 PM) View Post
Thats the spirit!!! I bet Christmas was fun at your house



Damn I forgot to send Rods new record to santa to replace that broken one..... argh.gif
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 12:15 AM

slight variation, but it's there

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 12:19 AM

QUOTE(Jan Mollars Gloves @ Jan 9 2007, 11:09 PM) View Post
Watching Liverpool tonite it was amazing to hear the kop still singing after their team was 6-3 down.


This is the key for me. I bet the bars and forums at Liverpool are packed tonight with people slagging off the manager, the players etc. That's not surprising, given the result and the performance, and they have every right to express their opinions.
But what the Liverpool fans recognise is that when the players are out there on the pitch, they are far more likely to perform better if they are being vocally supported instead of being booed or slagged off for every minor mistake or misplaced pass.
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  Posted 10 January 2007 - 09:02 AM

QUOTE(Dave L @ Jan 9 2007, 6:01 PM) View Post
But I am convinced that some City fans only find some personal level of fulfillment when they are deeply miserable.

There's a different kind of fulfillment? ohmy.gif

Whilst I applaud this initiative, I'm uncomfortable with the use of the word "Believe". As an agnostic it has too much religious overtones. Plus, I'm sure that Basso will be offended by the misappropriation of his deeply held convictions.

Also, as he's not wearing both gloves I'm sure there's a health and safety issue.
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 09:07 AM

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To right, what will be, will be; we all want promotion but cant quite see a sig will tip the scales dunno.gif


That's like saying why do you shout at the TV and urge your team on. They can't hear you so why do it???

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 09:35 AM

The Happy clappis have got together well done,but the truth is wheather you belive or not its the team that is fielded that get rusults not if you belive or not.

In truth if you have belived or not the last 8/9years people have back a under performing team of no hopers.Johnson seems to going in the right direction.Then i though that about Wilson for the first 2 1/2 years

Also if you take the Cricket in auss don't matter what you do England ant going to win anythink down under

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 10:58 AM

QUOTE(Dave L @ Jan 10 2007, 12:19 AM) View Post
This is the key for me. I bet the bars and forums at Liverpool are packed tonight with people slagging off the manager, the players etc. That's not surprising, given the result and the performance, and they have every right to express their opinions.
But what the Liverpool fans recognise is that when the players are out there on the pitch, they are far more likely to perform better if they are being vocally supported instead of being booed or slagged off for every minor mistake or misplaced pass.


That must be why the Liverpool fans loudly booed their team off at half time.

I was expecting the singing of "You'll never walk alone" at the end, but in fact it was very half hearted and sung by a only a small percentage of the large crowd.

Many "superb Liverpool fans" in fact walked out a half time.

Compare this support from fans who have witnessed their team in the top league for most of their lifetimes and who have WON major trophies so often. Then remember the support of the City fans last season when we were several goals down at home, 2,000 got up to leave and the other 8-9,000 sung more loudly and passionately for the rest of the game than almost 40,000 Liverpool fans last night.

Yet we City fans have no bulging trophy cabinet or 40 years of continual top flight success to give us belief that another dire home defeat and miserable season will be just a blip in the bigger picture of continuous success.

I certainly heard huge roars of disapproval towards Liverpool players at misplaced passes in the 2nd half last night.
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 11:28 AM

Yes the Liverpool 'you'll never walk alone' was subdued, but many still sang. The commentator said something like they were 'proud fans and the club should be proud of them'.

Are we proud fans? Are the club proud of us?

It would be great to sing and shout and clap from the first whistle to the last, whatever happens to see what the reaction is. Can we be the 12th man without the Eastend?

I'm all for the Eastend reopening, but it looks unlikely so we'll have to manage without. It was pointed out that the Bristol & Bath rugby fans made a good atmosphere. We can do it when we have to, Hartlepool etc.

Cup games seem to have a better atmosphere, can we we create that for league games?

The bloke who reads the bbc news on breakfast tv, Bill someone, is a wycombe fan. They interviewed him after the last carling cup round. He said his voice was hoarse through singing and shouting. Also his shoulder was really aching as the fans had started clapping from kick off and carried on all match. He believed this engineered their victory.

Can't we try the same, please. I'm tired of waiting for 'cosmic' football as GJ calls it to be played before I get excited. Time to give the players a lead and show them how it's done. I'm prepared to ache for my team are you?

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 12:17 PM

I really like the idea of this campaign of positive support. I've done an alternative version of the footer (with apologies to Madger and Godzilla).

If you like it, feel free to use it. Here's the code:

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Posted 10 January 2007 - 12:57 PM

I couldn't agree more. You don't have to agree with everything Gary Johnson or Steve Lansdown do to give unstinting (and vocal) support. Making Ashton Gate a fortress with a really great atmosphere could be the difference between finishing 2nd or 3rd this season. Come on you reds.
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Posted 10 January 2007 - 01:08 PM

Ahem... you're welcome, Bolelshshshik. wink.gif
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Posted 17 January 2007 - 02:32 AM

Anyone else "believe" yet? city.gif
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