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  1. SC is a happy chappy and gets a bye, SOD was miserable so everything he did was an attack on the club / fans - Fans always say they want the club to be honest with them, along comes SOD, fans suddenly realise they don't like honesty after all - bring back the cliched, one of the lads, happy chappy manager, because for fans at the end of the day ignorance is bliss............
    8 points
  2. I don't see anything dishonest in what SC has said. I seem to be in the minority (on this thread certainly!) but's that's fine by me - those most disparaging of Cotterill seem to be those most embittered by SO'D's departure. I'm not. I'm very glad he's gone and though I'm far from convinced by Cotterill, it's obviously in our best interests now to support him and at least reserve judgement until we see whether he can keep us up. If you think what I say is shocking I can only say I find the criticism of Cotterill, and everything he says and does, is absolutely mind blowing to
    4 points
  3. SOD also said the same about the away support being "magnificant" "a shame the fans did not get the result they deserved" etc - It just reads that almost identical situations because one manager is a happier upbeat chap you choose to think all the possible best for him, and yet almost identical situations all the possible worst of another manager. It is so biased, and unfounded that it's shocking to actually read - all the moreso as you are usually a level headed decent poster.
    4 points
  4. Aint that the truth EMB. Blair should have had the same ending as Hussein, a proven liar who sent many British troops and innocent Iraqi women and children to their deaths. He tops the tree as the scummiest politician that has ever took office in this country. A real shit of a man.
    3 points
  5. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, kidnap and torture of one's own subjects is pretty extreme and funnily enough it formed part of Blair's evidence against Saddam Hussein, once he decided there were no weapons of mass destruction and he decided upon a policy of mass distraction to cover his tracks claiming regime change was always part of his strategy anyway and now we even know the enquiry he set up was a whitewash, not that it was ever in doubt but its good to have it confirmed from his own mouth but even now the middle east peace envoy keeps telling us Iraq is safer place today, although not
    3 points
  6. When SOD left We needed 2 points to get out of the relegation zone with -3 GD no teams had any games in hand Now We need 2 points to get out of the relegation zone with a -8 and teams around us have games in hand that good enough reminder > we are in a worse position
    3 points
  7. First of all, I must say that Mr SC was certainly not my number 1 choice to replace O'dismall. However bad we were today (and it sounds very bad) all SC was saying is "how it is" - we all like to think we are winner's so give the guy a break. He is not the one that has put us in this position - it's been brewing for along time. The fact of the matter is he is trying to get us out of this mess whether you like him or not as a person. It cracks me up - so many threads over and over and over and only a few hundred (if that) could be arsed to go to the Questions and Answers session a mont
    3 points
  8. Serious question who would stop Mugabe, oh hang on Zimbabwe didn't have anything we wanted like oil and for the record, the Iraqi's are now killing each other in huge numbers pretty much on a daily basis. There are plenty of despots killing their own people and we don't invade any of them.
    2 points
  9. Not easy to get the better of this man,
    2 points
  10. Actually, and I don't want to defend Labour over Iraq, but it was Callaghan who sent two nuclear subs to the South Atlantic when Argentina first threatened an invasion. Thatcher's actions in removing British citizenship from the Falklanders and decommissioning the only Royal Navy ship that was stationed in the area encouraged the junta to believe that the British had lost interest in defending the islands. Read about it in the staunch Conservative ex-Telegraph editor Max Hasting's book on the Falklands War. It's a cracking read incidentally. EDIT: PB made the points first!
    2 points
  11. Or you could talk about the Labour government in the late 70's who sent a task force to the Falkland isles. A task force that stopped any Argentine thoughts of invasion. Unlike a few years later when ( again) Tory cuts ( HMS Endurance) gave the Argies the thoughts of invasion. War monger Thatcher then had her wishes granted!
    2 points
  12. and now protected by a labour party full of shit bags who went along for the ride and gutless labour voters, to blinkered to able to admit the truth, this is the same labour party who would enter into talks with the Spanish government over sovereignty of Gibraltar and no doubt Argentina over the Falklands, a government who expected support in government but never offer support in opposition.
    2 points
  13. Some people seem more concerned about supporting their "forum reputation" than their football team.
    2 points
  14. Yes, but the difference is Cotterill has been hammered by a significant minority since the day he arrived, mainly if not exclusively by those who bought into SOD's rhetoric about long term player development. Those people have expressed disappointment at SOD being sacked, that's fair enough its their opinion, but they have gone further than that with insults of Cotterill which have been personal, unnecessary, and unfounded. In response, others have come to Cotterill's defence and in doing so have inevitably compared Cotterill's record here with SOD's. The out and out hostility
    2 points
  15. I thought the corner was turning under SOD. Of course, we'll never now know. As if nepotism in the boardroom wasn't enough, managers are now appointed on the basis of their friendship with board members. Which seems the whole basis for the sacking.
    2 points
  16. Again, as I like this fact quite a lot. The Leyton Orient game has been the only fixture where SC has bettered the result of the previous manager in the previous fixture. SOD didn't have the pleasure of playing Stevenage and the Walsall game was as much to do with a honeymoon period as anything else. Assessing where we are right now, we are worse. Defensively we have fallen apart. We aren't scoring as many goals, our previously good goal difference is disappearing which could have been worth something come the seasons end. Cotterill is failing and the fact that the only defence people
    2 points
  17. Your rhetoric is considerably more boring and dull than SOD ever was! SOD went to a Q & A for The Exiled Robin and for the ST AND did an interview for The Bountyhunter - he was not "expected" to attend any of these, so you're wrong on that one. It was also SODs idea to arrange that game at Ashton & Backwell, a COMMUNITY game and he also sorted the school visit after the little girl wrote to him directly about her grandad being ill. He worked as a community officer for Bournemouth... He wasn't criticizing the fans for Kilkenny and Fontaine...it was simply the tru
    2 points
  18. I was at both Sheff U games. I'll say no more, except don't judge anyone on one game.
    2 points
  19. Fair enough Glyn. To be honest, I never wanted to post anything about Cotterill at all, but my anger has gotten the better of me this last couple of weeks. I make a promise now, in front you Glyn, and all other otib'ers, that I am not going to talk about Cotterill again. I've made my position pretty clear on him and I'll rest at that. As far as comments on SC are concerned, I'll see you all at the end of the season.
    2 points
  20. I must be the only one in isolation did not mind that interview - he is clearly spitting at the performance, as he should.
    2 points
  21. i think he should stop giving interviews as everything he says gets ridiculous comment from fans. Any comment gets manipulated, taken out of context, used to beat him up. Because all he can say, in a neutral way is "we lost, we need to do better" thank you. It is an interview not a court room. I thought he was a strange appointment, and could not understand why we did not see who might have been interested, but given the quick choice and long contract, the directors must know him very well. They must have considered his abilities sufficient to save us from the drop. We will know in 13 games wo
    2 points
  22. Fair enough mate, we aren't going to agree re the bias,but I totally respect and to a degree agree with your views of the political parties.
    1 point
  23. O Drosscoll was the most negative manager/head coach Ive ever seen at City. Quite frankly Penis & Benny were light years ahead FFS!How the **** does a misery loves company**** like him even vaguely inspire the team??? Ive watched both teams this season, and both are ****** awful. Cotterill who is proving every bit as poor as his unlamented predecessor BUT! does have the slight virtue of not being a ****** manic depressive in interviews...Small result in the growing sea of mediocrity brought in by O Drosscoll and willingly added to by Cotterill... I struggle to see much progress other
    1 point
  24. Let me clear this up for you because I don't wish for you to get the wrong idea about who I support. I don't vote for any of them, they are all cut from the same cloth and don't represent me in anyway. Whoever is in charge gets the same two fingers up at them. Last year my local Tory MP Mark Harper had to face a 2 minute onslaught at my front door, previous to that the Labour candidate endured similar. Until we have something worth voting for I will continue to spoil my paper. But when I see blatant bias in what is supposed to be an impartial corporation I will call it as I see it.
    1 point
  25. Nick Clegg is sorry, so sorry .......
    1 point
  26. And those thousands would be quite wrong.
    1 point
  27. This will be the same O'Driscoll that took us down without so much of a whimper and I myself read posts from opposition fans stating we were clearly the worst team in the division - which we were. Then he took us down to the bottom of league 1. Sorry I don't care what other fans say - I can think of games at AG where we were utter sh*t under O'Driscoll and the result was no better.
    1 point
  28. You do realise where we were in the table when we sacked him right??? And had been all season too. The season after he took us down without a whimper . His record no matter how you paint it, was frankly appalling.
    1 point
  29. We were playing well under SOD up until Flint threw away the three points away against Port Vale. We then had a three game blip (Wycombe, Crewe and Brentford) where the team looked at a lower point than ever before due to a lack of confidence. After that incredibly short blip (performance wise) we proceeded to go on the run of 1 loss in 7 games, and again I'll point out, that loss was caused by an individual error from Flint, hardly down to Sean's tactics. No matter how bad the performance was against Sheff Utd, it was far better than the performance against them the other day. We lost one gam
    1 point
  30. That game summed up to me how bad things had got under that last idiot. Hoofball and possibly the worst game of football seen in years. It was dire a long time before that ruddy great donkey hacked another into his own net. O'Driscoll and passing football ? Anyone ever thinks that should be made to watch that game.
    1 point
  31. The BBC is the Labour party mouthpiece Gobbers. You watch any episode of the Labour partys midweek broadcast called question time, the audience is loaded with Labour activists and lefty apologists. King Tony and his heir to the throne Prince Gordon must not be shown in a bad light.
    1 point
  32. Tony Blair and Gordon Brown - like the Tories - are EU loving traitors. The following YouTube video is of Nigel Farage ripping into Gordon Brown when he was Prime Minister 5 years ago - never shown by the EU's BBC propaganda news and views agency.....I wonder why?? .........
    1 point
  33. But our youngsters wont be allowed a season or two will they, we'll be in the relegation zone, a different manager will be appointed and a new bunch of journeymen will be imported, as experience will be needed to haul us out of trouble........................oh wait a minute................
    1 point
  34. More than likely! I'm no apoligist for the last Labour government, far from it. Blair was a Tory as far as I'm concerned. Not as extreme as the current mob though.
    1 point
  35. Fiale - I have seen SC quite openly being labelled 'a liar' on this forum. You said we want honesty from the club and we got it from SO'D. No problem with that, but I don't see any diminishment of honesty under SC. If he says things that might at the same time ingratiate him to the fans, but MEANS them, what's the problem? As for Del, I was one of his biggest supporters on here and yes, I still believe we would be far better off now had we kept him and got rid of certain players instead at the first opportunity. We've had 4/5 years of misery now and SO'D, and now Cotterill ar
    1 point
  36. I think the SOD v SC argument is getting a bit tiring now. They have both made mistakes bringing in poor players (El Terribly Bad being the worst example admittedly) but the fact is that we have had a squad jam packed with poor players all season. The Board started this all with the cost cutting to achieve FFFP and unfortunately BOTH of our Managers have not used the limited resources available wisely at all. Add in a bunch of players that turn up when they feel like it and you have the perfect recipe for disaster. Marlon Harewood - waste of a wage. Nicky Shorey - waste of a wage. Le
    1 point
  37. Why, every time, when I look at the title of this thread do I read it as 'I'm a wa nker'?
    1 point
  38. strange you feel SCs words are being unfairly interpreted yet are using other supporters who unfairly interpreted SODs comments as proof he was no good with fans. If SOD had no interest / did not care about fans he would not have done the Q&As and podcast that fans invited him to - he was not expected to do them, did not have to do them, no other manager I know of has done them like this - so he obviously wanted fans to know what was happening, what he was trying to do - which is the important thing.... so he wasn't a happy chappy you'd want a pint with moving pepper pots around show
    1 point
  39. He was sacked because of his horrendous record. I can only think the people who said he was beginning to turn it around weren't at the Sheffield home game.
    1 point
  40. I agree. I was under the impression that SOD was a long term appointment but the Board lost its nerve and I expect couldn't cope with his dour personality. They seemed to believe that what we needed was a more motivational type of character. Sadly they've picked someone who seems out of his depth and unlikely to be able to build for the future. I had the sense with SOD that he was playing the long game. With SC it looks like tinkering around the edges.
    1 point
  41. I haven't mentioned labour? I said left!
    1 point
  42. Where there was little interest in politics before I know of a great many that are becoming excited with the prospect of being able to vote UKIP as a kick in the teeth to the Lib-Lab-Con and their beloved EU project. UKIP are also making the establishment sit up and listen with regard to their cosy and criminally corrupt relationship with the EU.
    1 point
  43. It's brilliant viewing I must admit. The red, blue and yellows are out in force trying to discredit UKIP conveniently forgetting that the lying pieces of shit they continue to vote for are somehow different. Haha, they're even trying to look at their piece of shit and claim it's somehow less smelly than yours, but shit is shit no matter how much red, blue and yellow confetti they sprinkle on it. They still vote for their favourite colour believing it's different to the other one, even though it's all based on you working harder and longer for less. Keep waving your flags boys, red
    1 point
  44. Equally, the Orient game was the only one which Cotterill has bettered the result achieved by SOD... Sean didn't get the pleasure of playing Stevenage. I don't disagree that it is a bit sad, but he doesn't help himself at all (Neither did SOD, who said things that would only piss some people off) and as Harry said earlier in this thread, the soundbites and interviews (Written and spoken) are the only way we can gauge a managers personality. I know that many will be like me and find unwarranted arrogance a major turn off with regard to liking a manager's personality. There's nothing worse th
    1 point
  45. Sorry Robbo, forgot to answer this bit in my last post. How do we get out of it? Well, for starters, drop El Abd. Play 2 of Osborne, Flint & Williams as 2 CB's. Play Cunningham at LB. If he doesn't like Moloney (clearly not), then go out and loan a genuine RB. Drop Barnett and put Baldock back up top. START with 2 wingers in home matches. How's that for starters?
    1 point
  46. Yep - this is exactly the words he will use to get the fans 'onside'. I see through this, it's false, but it will certainly afford him more time with a lot of fans because he's planted the seeds and they think he really cares about them. The only 'long term strategy' in his locker. Tell the fans how proud you are of them and they'll give you a few more games before calling you a useless ____!
    1 point
  47. It looked like pure frustration and thinly disguised rage to me. Fairly clear the interview followed immediately after a very frank exchange of views in the dressing room. If he's telling the interviewer the performance was abysmal he certainly won't have minced his words with the players just beforehand. A bit of a GJ hand grenade moment by the looks of it and a number of players will have been left in no doubt how unacceptable their performance was - and quite rightly by the sound of it.
    1 point
  48. I don't understand why people or us fans would be pissed off though on this one? He is saying we were abysmal, he is saying the players let him down - they did, he is saying the fans were superb and were let down - they were. I thought the interview was of a pissed off manager who thought his team were appalling and let him and us down. Which to me is honest and bang on the money??
    1 point
  49. umm, Steve no you are not. also Steve L, Jon L you and your company's are losers too.
    1 point
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