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@Lrrr Don't think snooker crowds are so passionate- it's small small numbers there also. Should be masks however at Crucible! Droplets possibly less likely at snooker? https://theathletic.co.uk/1996223/2020/08/16/return-fans-coronavirus-project-restart/ Behind a paywall BUT saw it on another forum so with credit to that forum, the relevant bit of the post (not the article) copied and pasted. A lot of this has been steadily leaking out already, some points are augmented into initial plans and one or two are new. Known. Known. New! However in line with my thoughts on one type of drink in particular. Mix of known and new. Seen in one or two places but newish. Broadly known, but adds some detail. Broadly expected? Bit more detail though. Known, broadly. Not surprising- been mooted for some time. Not been spoken about that much in the buildup but bits of it certainly. Makes sense. Been mooted but how clearly defined it's been...? Makes a degree of sense- would knock the idea of alcohol in seats on the head. If I was to sum it up in one word? Grim! The bit doesn't make sense to me is how masks to prevent spread of droplets are consistent with alcohol in seats- do you take your masks off in the seats or? This is in terms of consistency.

Correct. Fair minded clubs are those that organised their finances so that they could stay within ffp limits notwithstanding the impact it had on the on field competitiveness, Why would those clubs support any club that, in essence, ignored the rules thinking that the end would justify the means?

Apologies for the source. The paper is terrible, but in some areas and notably this one Nixon can at times be quite good. According to the publication in question, the EFL bungled the Sheffield Wednesday thing- this will not come as a great surprise to those who frequent this thread! They should've received deduction in 2018/19 apparently- as with Birmingham. I'd also argue that it should've been 2017/18 for multiple clubs ie Projected Accounts but the brilliant leader of the EFL, Mr. Harvey only had a points tariff in place from September 2018- after the event! What he was doing for 2 seasons I'll never know! The rules themselves began in 2016/17, but the first full 3 year period with said rules was between 2016/17-2018/19. The big and interesting claim- which I've been calling for a while Said it multiple times I am sure- win the case vs the CLUB first and then go after the individuals, potentially. The club in 99.99% of cases is the most important factor- whether it was fully dismissed or the EFL dropped it to expedite the process as it was stuck in arbitration with legal wrangling, potentially the report itself will make crystal clear. Apparently the report is due to be published Sunday- why not Monday or Saturday?? Anyway it shall make very interesting reading. Maybe the interesting reading is the reason to sneak it out on the Sunday? @Davefevs @Hxj @Coppello @downendcity @chinapig @CyderInACan I give them credit for winning the case and am sure it may not have happened had it not been for a mix of Bury, Gibson's righteous anger and Harvey's ineptitude but still! I suppose consistency of punishment makes sense because if Derby are guilty, then it's only right the points are docked in 2020-21, otherwise they would either get relegated a few days before fixtures out or they would receive a points penalty season just gone with no tangible effect- though it would put them into scope for some sort of loss reset/EFL business plan/individual targets. Much more significantly however, had they been charged at that time and found guilty, then Middlesbrough definitely and possibly even we would have taken a bit more heart and overtaken Middlesbrough and them- would likely have made top 6!! Gibson would undoubtedly have had grounds to believe in top six had Derby been docked points. IF these two get docked, I'd suggest the EFL have the right to re-examine Aston Villa for sure. It's a big if and purely a hypothetical but I am sure that Sheffield Wednesday, and if found guilty Derby County, and maybe Birmingham, would all be demanding it.

If there is any kind of getting there hours ahead of the game and wearing masks then I won't be going. Suspect many will feel the same - don't think they will have an issue with the 20-40% really on that basis.

So, you may have to arrive 3 hours before the start; and the toilets are closed. That's 5 hours without a wee. Do they judge everyone's bladder capacity by that of Dominic Cummings?

I totally agree JBFC, the demolition of their front 5 was unexpected but great to see. Plenty to work on as you say but I, for one, cannot wait to see our back line unleashed although yesterday wasn't the day for it. I thought Sarries pressing game off Goode's kicks was brilliant and we struggled at times, even the mighty Piutau! I still don't get the first half penalty against Sarries when Charles was nailed in our 22 before their 6 shifted him into touch, seemed fair game to me.

Yep that's true, certainly something to work on. To be honest, thackers set piece has never been great and from what leinster fans have said byrnes line outs aren't his strong point. That being said that was made up for by the scrum, to demolish that Sarries front row in the way we did on a fair few occasions was spectacular

My understanding is that as all the clubs voted for it it was assumed that they would all abide by it so sanctions were unnecessary. As to the Premier League, as no one has breached the rules yet there isn't considered to be a need for sanctions.

Reading Owlstalk and the thread. 'All fair-minded clubs will support us'. A few posts say similar. No they ducking won't. Far from it actually, you did try and fiddle the system, and more amusingly you did it in ridiculous fashion. Maybe the stuff in The Times in May 2019 about accounts not being submitted was true. Some of the posts are for want of a better word, deluded but nonetheless this case doesn't paint the EFL in a great light either.

Skeletons - Häxan

Great coach Great squad A real plan and vision for the club over the next 5 years World class facilities An engaged and excited fan base I wish I was writing this about the football club but we're worlds apart right now.

Who the hell would want to use that image on anything to sell!? They're official merchandise. They got the idea from John Lansdowns crayon shirts....

Considering the current economic climate and feelings about the recent coaching appointments, if the club offered a full 100% refund on the season ticket how many would take it I certainly would think seriously about it