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  1. I've been reading this forum from afar, and I've now finally had enough and signed up. I've been supporting Bristol City for 30 years now, followed home and away, so I'm not a new fan by any means. What has shocked me though over resent years it the complete entitlement of our fans, especially at the moment. Mark Ashton For me, the man has a done a decent job at the football club. He is a fantastic negotiator and for the first time that I can remember we have been a force to reckon with when it comes to negotiation etc. We've already heard from several employees within the club that Mark is a decent guy and works extremely really hard behind the scenes. David Lloyd also said as much on OSIB this week. He's obviously highly regarded within footballing circles as he's been giving a role on the EFL board! So, because some of our fanbase wouldn't have a pint with him, wears a suit, he's suddenly slimy and a snake. Honestly, who cares? He's overseen one of the most successful periods in Bristol City's history. He is an articulate and intelligent CEO, but lets hound him out with an absolute pipe dream of getting Scudamore in. Are you having a laugh? Lets be honest, most people who have jumped on this witch hunt, as that is what it is, haven't got a clue what his role actually is. Fans just see a well groomed man in a suit and have just made their minds up that they don't like him because he, funnily enough, talks like a CEO. Lets be clear for the fans that can't compute this...... MARK ASHTON DOES IDENFIFTY PLAYERS TO SIGN. Mark Ashton overseas the recruitment team who finds the players. They send lists of players to the manager, who then says YES or No. The manager will also suggest players for the recruitment team to analyse. Where people have got the idea Mark Ashton identifies players, is beyond me and blows my mind. But that doesn't fit in with the narrative does it. Why do our fans expect so much? I don't know another CEO in the football league that is expected to come out on radio and talk all of the time, its madness. Steve Lansdown It beggars belief how anyone would have a bad word to say about one of our own, who has ploughed over £200m into this club. He has built a premier league standard stadium, a premier league quality training ground and has moved this club forward beyond recognition over the past 18 years. But yet all people want to do is abuse the guy!! Are you serious? Its like people think that running a successful football club is easy. Simply black and white. Could you imagine where we would be without the mans help? I'm not saying that he's always got it right, but he's sure got more right than wrong over the years and he is still ploughing money in. You can tell that SL and JL are both at the end of the road with it, ploughing millions upon millions trying to elevate this club with nothing put abuse. I'd have pulled the plug years ago. The club would have been in great hands moving forward under JL, but SL has also said this week he isn't interested. Are you surprised? Again, the abuse he gets on here is horrendous. 10 clubs in the championship are now on a transfer ban! We aren't one of them. Can you guess why? Yeah, thats it, the CEO and the Owner have done a fantastic job to make sure that didn't happen during a worldwide pandemic. We have a financially stable club when others all over the football league are crumbling. So if the fans got their way, we'd hound out an experienced CEO and a billionaire Bristol City supporting owner. But where do you go from there once they leave in this little fantasy land ours? Maybe we can get in some Asian investment from owners that could barely point to Bristol on the map and have Ashton Gate sponsored by a betting company, as that's what it sounds like supporters want. I'd hate to think what out fans would be like if we ACTUALLY had something bad to moan about. I love this club, I always will, but why do we as fans always have this need to press the self destruct button? We do we feel so entitled? We do we always need someone to blame? Every club go through ups and downs, but just think back and see how far we have come and tell me we haven't progressed in every department of this football club. I'm sorry if you don't agree, and I'm expecting a lot of abuse instead of constructive debate. But is everything that bad?
    68 points
  2. Is it the fans who fanny about the pitch on match days pretending to be professional footballers ? Is it the fans who employed a novice coach when the remit was to bring in experience ? Is it the fans who signed so many soft bellied players with no fight in them and no affinity to the club ? I could go on . We are, quite rightly, negative at times as we have seen better run clubs overtake us and have some success since the seventies . We are not responsible and continue to pay money into the club’s coffers regardless.
    48 points
  3. OP is rather confused about our shirt sponsor methinks. We are already sponsored by a betting company, so you might want to delete that error on your post. Anyway, appreciate the opinion. I don't agree with your acceptance of mediocrity for the level of investment or the notion that any owner who is not Bristol born would be a negative. Get used to it, the owner is selling out, and the new people will not be local. Our historical position in the football pyramid is what 34 th ? Where are we now ? Mark Ashton, Steve Lansdown, bottom line is , nice buildings, but nothing notable to show on the pitch. For the money spent it is a terrible under achievement . Could we have done worse, yes of course, but why look below, look above. That is what winners do. Could we have done better. Without any doubt. The losers mentality around Bristol City and the inability to strive for the best, and your comments for me are exactly why we are also rans or no runners, is why we are going nowhere fast until we strive for excellence and stop accepting second best. Ashton, here I could not agree with anything you have said. He is an unmitigated disaster. The highest wage bill in history and transfer spend, and look at the squad we have at the end of this season and the residual value of that squad. It is the worst transfer management possible, and has left the club in a terrible mess , close to relegation, and with no semblance of any playing identity. The only thing Ashton deserves is to be fired. On any level he has been a catastrophic failure as head of all things football. His words. The fans are far from the problem, far far from the problem. Show them some respect, and appreciate they are not as stupid as you think, and primarily put together a semblance of a professional football strategy to match the investment and create a club that has pride. City fans will be there with any of them. It is insulting you suggest otherwise considering the dross , BS and nonsense that has been served over the last 3 years. If you lie continually to your fanbase, tell them something is great when it is not, give yourself platitudes that only you can see, then yes, the fanbase might feel bemused and slightly incredulous. Bristol City needs to stop being an also ran, 49 clubs have played in the Prem league , we are not one of them. If Ashton and SL are so amazing, how come clubs like Blackpool have got the Prem (during SL ownership) and we only got close once ? The losers mentality is what is wrong with some fans. They are the type of fan holding the club back.
    35 points
  4. The OP has persuaded me. Let's transfer list the fans and bring in a new 100,000 odd from a city where fans never criticise the running of the football club (ie: nowhere). The "sense of entitlement" of which is spoken of is an entitlement born of (in some cases) generations of family putting money, time and effort into supporting the club. Speaking personally, it belongs to the area my family has lived in since before Ashton Gate was built. My great-grandfathers watched, and they'd probably watched Bristol South End and Bedminster FC before that. Steve Lansdown has put a hell of a lot of money into the club, and for that I'm grateful. But as a percentage of my disposal income, I've probably put more. I watched when I was a student on a tiny grant. I flew back from America a few times to watch games. I've cancelled work meeting. Scheduled my life around matches. Driven to and from London at night in the pissing rain to watch a night game, when I had an early start in my job the next morning. LOADS of us can say the same: People who've followed City for decades to hundreds of away games; People who come to the ground, despite physical infirmities that makes attendance difficult; People on very low incomes, for whom an ST may be their most expensive purchase all year. THAT's our sense of entitlement. The entitlement to want a club that is an integral part of our lives to be well run, as successful as possible and something that brings pride to Bristol. We are entitled to ask questions of the owner and senior staff. Given the dire state of the side at the moment and what looks like multiple errors that have led to this, I'd say we are more entitled than ever.
    30 points
  5. I’ll respectfully disagree with your opinion of Mark Ashton.
    28 points
  6. Me too. I know Steve Lansdown has made mistakes & he infuriates me at times, but I’ll never question his love for the club, incredible sums of his own money that he has invested or his determination to improve us, let’s face in, despite no help whatsoever from those in power in the city, who see South Bristol as a foreign country. Ashton on the other hand is just a snake, only interested in himself & his little group of hangers on & despite the Covid restrictions I’d drive him to Suffolk right now.
    20 points
  7. LJ would have been delighted with that number of box entries. I’ll get me coat.
    18 points
  8. Flip that on its head. Should the person the head-coach / manager reports into (in this case the CEO) take any responsibility for any player the head-coach / manager brings in? Are you saying “no”? Wow. Just let him abdicate any responsibility alongside his £527k plus pension per annum then. Stop twisting the argument (same with you @SecretSam) to be about who is choosing players. It’s a collective of people performing a process to acquire a player, where it’s fair to say there’s room for both improvement and consistency. Why upon promoting himself COO, hasn’t the CEO put a Head of (player) Recruitment in place? Ask yourself that? Why did he get rid of the previous incumbent as one of his first tasks once he became CEO? That person (Keith Burt) was brought in to provide the skills that JL and KD (Keith Dawe) didn’t have the skills nor time to do properly. Ask yourself that? Basically, he’s a control freak and he loves the kudos of a player signing - “I signed x and y”. That’s not me saying he chose them. That’s a very different argument. But he’s a control freak who only likes the responsibility of things that are good. Hes fully involved in the collective mix of recruitment, that’s why he hasn’t put a HoR in place. It’s his team of recruitment analysts, his team of scouts (who have dwindled in numbers over the past 2 years), etc. He runs those departments, but he doesn’t run them critically enough. Don’t let him off the hook, nor others either. It is an underperforming collective.
    18 points
  9. OP. If you genuinely think my view of club employee performance is based on the fact they wear a suit, talk in a Corporate way, etc, then you’ve seriously misjudged where my view comes from. I expect him to wear a suit, I expect him to talk in a way according to his role. If you think I’ve joined a witch hunt, then check the analysis and investigation I’ve done. If that happens to tie up nicely with what others have found out too, some through direct experience of dealing with him, then it’s gonna inform abd influence other posters’ views too, that’s how things work! I also expect him to take responsibility for the delivering the strategy of the owner through the board (of which he is a director) to the various areas of the football club, and on the playing side through the manager / head-coach, He performs some of those aspects well, administration of a football operation, representing SL’s view at the EFL. He fails on some too....contract strategy, recruitment, succession planning of staff and players....and those also have a huge bearing on the overall financial strategy of sustainability. We are nowhere near sustainable. If you want to give him credit for a successful period, where do you start to see the decline starting? Or haven’t you acknowledged that if you give him credit for the good, you have to do the other side too. If you judge that purely on league position (which is a silo attitude imho) then have you missed that we went backwards last season and more again this season? Or do you choose to ignore that, because it doesn’t fit your agenda. As for SL, he is not beyond criticism. I’m grateful for what he’s done, but it’s not a charitable donation either. There is a big grey area between “giving £150m to BCFC” and investing £150m in BCFC. When he talked a couple of years back and said (paraphrased) when supporters have invested what I have they can have a bigger say, he showed that there is more to his work that charity!
    17 points
  10. You can't seriously be judging the direction of travel of Pearson signings on one temporary signing made outside of a transfer window, can you? Who else was he supposed to sign to plug that hole in the side outside of a window?? Please give us names if you can... If you're concerned about the signing of ageing players then I suggest you look at our record pre-Pearson, which is that 7 out of last 8 signings were aged over 30. Contrast that with the debuts and minutes Pearson has already given to several Academy players - Bell, Pearson, Conway and it is a nonsense to suggest he is reliant on journeymen. As for results not improving, context is important. Let's be clear Pearson took over the worst team in the division. Forget league position or even results. Under Holden we were performing as the worst team in the division in terms of chances created and chances conceded (maybe Wycombe aside). We were lucky to be where we were in the table. It was a false position. Fast forward to Pearson and whilst there hasn't been a signicant upturn in results, we are at least performing slightly better, particularly in terms of the number and quality of chances we are conceding. We still look toothless in attack but that isn't something that can be fixed overnight unfortunately. If things don't change quickly, like now, and drastically this summer then we will be in a relegation battle next season. Absolutely no doubt about it. It's just history repeating from 8/9 years ago last time we went down. Now is not the time for experiments with managers, we need an experienced proven operator. So unless you have any better ideas then Pearson has to be the man we put our trust in because his CV suggests he can turn our fortunes given time and backing.
    17 points
  11. Sorry, but I am not having that the fans are the issue here. No damn way. We have not even been in the ground for 12 months. Give City fans a show of pride, commitment and desire, and they are as good as any in the land. The roof went off Ashton Gate against Man United. Just look at this team sheet. Bristol City: Steele; Baker, Magnússon (Taylor 69), Flint, Wright (c); Pack, Smith, Brownhill (Eliasson 76), Bryan; Paterson, Reid. Subs not used: Fielding, Vyner, Kelly, Garita, Lemonheigh-Evans. Really look at it. Those players gave it their all. Most would sniff at half of that team sheet now, but when they showed pride , passion and desire. Bristol City fans were with them, And some. So , show the fans respect, show the commitment and desire in all areas of the club, and you will get the most passionate and heartfelt support. Fans the problem. My arsenal
    15 points
  12. I think there will be seismic changes. For sure we'll record record losses the likes of which would bust most clubs and will (probably already has) given SL cause to think again about how much he wants City as part of the sport equation? I don't think NP will stay under SL - ( why would he unless he's the figurehead under a new strategy?) New regime on the other hand we could look a tad like Leicester. I think ST sales will stall. Not just because we're crap at present rather Covid, I think, has shown football up for the foolish and expensive folly it has become. The patronising crap the club continue to came out with doesn't help. You're not doing me any favours keeping prices where they were. The price point is is the product worth it? At present and from those things City control, the answer is a categoric NO. Why the hell would I wish to visit the training facility other then to unleash my wrath on the greedy, talentless rabble that has brought my beloved club low? Why would I wish to become a FKW let alone wear a shirt emblazoned with signatures I'd prefer be regularly used at dole offices? Add in the fact Bristol HATES ex pats like me, the fact TV randomly dictates whether or not I'm able to attend ONCE I've bought my ticket, the complete unknowns as to even if I buy a ST whether I'll be allowed in, or have to get in hours early, or wait for hours afterwards, or have to stay away if I get a sniffle? Suppose I have to take an LFT prior to attending and stay away if testing positive. Do I get a refund for being honest or do I turn up and infect others? How might the club prevent abuse? What chance others will act responsibly? What's the club's policy on taking a punt CF POTD? These are the FAQs we need, not the drivel published. I get that's catastrophic for cashflow at a time City are hemorrhaging money but hey, the club sold itself out years ago on the loyalty front and it's they who've placed themselves in this ridiculous position. I wouldn't dream of buying a theatre ticket with an advertised cast of hams I can't abide in the hope they might all be replaced come performance. Place all bar 6 of the present squad in stocks and offer me the option of lobbing rotten tomatoes at them and you'd get my cash. Pay to watch them fail (again) to play football, why treat me with such contempt? As a favour my son and I will do what we've done ever since the loyalty scheme (sic) was introduced and the club can stick it's loyalty bonus where the sun don't shine. If it was a measure of loyalty I'd be able to use it against something I might want. And if that doesn't extend to beers or pies, if it's only for City endorsed products , well why not bring out a Marley Watkins punchbag or Nakhi Wells refuse sacks? Fair play to NP, his comments are so far off message as to give me hope. SL's diligence in the other hand dictates a more cautionary approach. Make no mistake City are in big, big trouble. The least of which is lifelong stalwarts such as myself, you know, I'm not sure they're really that bothered any more. This isn't 82. Neither club nor players have been attached to heart-strings for decades.
    15 points
  13. He signed a "journeyman right-back", as you put it, on a short-term deal to help us out until the end of the season. It's not like Simpson was signed on a two-year deal and he's played ONE game for us. Look back over the last 15 or so years and you'll see the two times SL appointed what I consider to be proper managers they got off to slow starts. Gary Johnson (3W 0D 10L, including 9 successive league and cup defeats) Steve Cotterill (3W 4D 4L) Nigel Pearson (3W 1D 5L) The point I'm making, and this is lost to some in an era of instant gratification, is that we have a proven leader -- the type the club has been crying out for -- and he needs to be given time in the same ways other riskier appointments have done. Both GJ and SC led us to promotion and I think NP could also do that. He knows what he's doing, he's knows the problems, and he's willing to sort out the mess he's inherited. Our problems go deeper than a bunch of wasters on the pitch and they stem from the boardroom. I doubt Pep could get more out of these gutless players right now.
    14 points
  14. Perhaps you should edit your highlighted part...as you've said MA does the recruitment. When you say...the recruitment team are looking at players and take a list to the manager...what are they looking for? If you think a recruitment team are just looking at any old player and think ' he looks good in that position and is undervalued' and notify the coach...if you think that to be the case, then no wonder we play so badly. That formula is purely scatter gun. Perhaps you are right and that's the case, because if you look at what we've bought in over the past few seasons, hardly any of the players are conducive to playing together. It's completely disjointed. So if your reasoning is true...then the system is wrong. If the coach gives a remit of the type of players he wants to suit a system to the recruitment and scouting team, then that would make more sense. ' Find me players that fit this system'...that should be the remit. What we've had instead...is a CEO who's in charge of the budget as well as recruitment. He has to tick two very big boxes. Find players that fit a system that the coach wants, that come under budget, and that have value on resale. What we get, are players that are rough diamonds, that could be ok to play into a system if coached into it... basically square pegs in round holes, rather than already ready for that system...or more recently older players with no resale value or drive to want to better themselves. Their better days behind them. MA should be no where near recruitment. He should purely be about negotiating contracts and the business side. His jobs conflict one another. We should have someone who recruits and overseas that part of the game, a coach and coaching team...and MA or other doing negotiations and business. All three come together to agree on players that suit system and what we can afford. Right now it's purely scatter gun and completely useless.
    12 points
  15. 11 points
  16. Let him clear his locker out now No way can a player who is so injury prone be even thought of as being kept on
    9 points
  17. There has been a small improvement in performance but I admit it is small. When Holden left, when our wasters completely downed tools, we were averaging something like 1-2 shots per game, lucky to even earn a corner some games and getting humiliated over a number of weeks. Even our captain had a bizarre rant about the fact that all we did was defend and never attacked. Holden had to go because of that. The players royally stitched him up and there was only ever going to be one casualty in that situation. Our stats now are not as bad as that but the same players have shown me that they have no shame, no regard for the fans, no personal or professional pride and are prepared yet again to withdraw the effort at the first sign that they do not like what is going down with the new Manager. That's why I have such disdain for them and will not be upset whoever is chucked out of the door. Almost every single one of them over the age of 22/23 can go as far as I'm concerned (I realise it won't happen like that but there are very few individuals I would be disappointed to see leave - fingers on one hand job). They rank amongst the biggest group of shithouses ever to represent this club and it is very apt to be honest that they have proven that pretty much the only way they can get a result is to shithouse a result. Most of them lack ability at Championship level and nearly all of them lack the attitude needed at this football club. If they aren't lazy then they seem to be soft as shit.....either way, no good to us. The difference between Pearson and Holden is that many of these players are out of contract and we can now fight them, ask them politely not to let the door hit their arse on the way out etc. Pearson has shown that when he is left with HIS backroom staff to build a squad he has more than enough ability to get the job done. We are in an almost unique situation where we can give NP a fairly blank sheet of paper and ask him to go and build a squad over the next couple of seasons and get the job done. I would give him that opportunity if it was my football club.
    9 points
  18. On effectively a 2 month contract to bring in some experience for 6/7 games.....if he proves his fitness and worth then he may earn a 1 year deal....don’t see the problem especially as we are likely to have a young squad next season the results have continued to be abysmal because we have the same bloated/injured squad as we’ve had all season with around 10 players who don’t see themselves here next season and don’t give a toss.....Pearson said as much in his post match interview the other day. Pearson was brought in primarily to stop the slide which he did and is probably 1 win from safety.....you can not expect him to stamp his mark in such a short time on a poor squad, several of which are clearly on their way. we also have the off the field smoke and mirrors about contract extensions, diabolical fitness and injury situation, CEO staying/leaving, owner pimping the club.....the club is a basket case at the moment and any manager brought in would struggle
    9 points
  19. Might not be a popular opinion but I'd like the club to start being a bit more hard nosed with our youngsters in general. Walsh joined us 4 years ago with Johnson saying he was ready to come into the first team immediately from what I recall. Now here we are with what, under 20 appearances for us 3 and a half seasons later and we can't decide if he should get another contract. I think he's a decent player and may go on to do good things... but I'd like a smaller squad of players who are exactly what we want, and ready to play for us (or a capable young backup). Not a mixture of players who we're holding on to because they might be good enough one day at some point in the future - sounds like a recipe for yet another large and incoherent squad to me. Other option is endlessly send them out on loan but then they're being coached for a different system in their early 20s by perhaps L1 or L2 coaches which also isn't ideal. Based on that it's a no for me. The club has to start being bold and accept it's going to make some mistakes in my opinion.
    8 points
  20. As with any forum when you are reading it as a non-member you are mostly going to notice the more extreme posters and their posts whilst skipping over the more reasonable nuanced posts as simple background noise. @AshtonYate is doing just this. There are many supportive and approving posts of what Steve Lansdown, or more correctly the Lansdown family, have done for this club. I think that they have been a huge positive. There are, I accept, fewer posts supporting Mark Ashton but I was supportive, especially of his maximising of sales income on outgoing players, up to the absolute debacle, played out in the press, of the process of replacing LJ. Even had it not resulted in appointing his assistant in Dean Holden the whole concept of making experienced managers with decent track records jump through hoops with shortlists and second interviews as though we knew nothing about them was wrong on so many levels and would have served to create a long list of managers who will never again apply to manage Bristol City. Prior to that absolute farrago of ullage of a recruitment process I thought he was doing a decent job. That recruitment process was however so bad he should have been sacked on the spot.
    8 points
  21. Correct... And did 'we receive even an ounce of honesty?? A glimmer of contrition?? A touch of humility?? Not a chance. Just bullshit & lies for us,the fans, without whom this club doesn't exist.. we're the heartbeat,,the honesty-not the problem. Not SL,,,not JL,,,not MA.... Us.
    7 points
  22. Without question, the fans are not the problem. Not now, not ever. Without the fans there is no Club. If nothing else, Covid has proved tht football without fans is a far more inferior product. In what other sector of "entertainment" would customers shell out a small fortune on tickets/travel/overpriced refreshments, week in, week out, to see stars/artistes/entertainers fail to turn up or to consistently deliver totally cr*p performances/shows?
    7 points
  23. That is by far and away the most stupid thing that I have read on here in a long time.
    7 points
  24. I would extend his contract tomorrow for a season . He possesses the skill set that should have seen him playing for the team last season. In one game this season he demonstrated how limited the players City have are. The lad can play pass it, want it in a squad with too many who do not.
    7 points
  25. I was going to simply be sarcastic and post 'phew...and I thought the wheels were falling off the wagon'... ...but on reflection that's churlish. I'll simply say that Steve Lansdown has used his wealth to buy total control of a football club I and many others on here supported long before he'd given it a second thought. It's his enterprise, lock stock and barrel. Supporters have no say in any decisions made yet return year after year and buy season tickets in record numbers. It's a bit rich for these powerless supporters to be accused of entitlement when every year Lansdown makes promises on which he doesn't deliver. 20 years into his tenure the football is awful, the club a bit of a rudderless shambles. In truth I assumed the OP to be a wind up!
    7 points
  26. I answer you message with a short one of my own 6 weeks to appoint DH is not world class management at work
    7 points
  27. The one thing that counts, that brought us all to Ashton Gate in the first place is shockingly awful beyond belief................THE FOOTBALL.
    7 points
  28. So if you yourself can see some of them don't want to be here, or aren't good enough, why do you think Pearson should be able to turn them into highly motivated world beaters??? Yes results have been disappointing but it's ludicrous to think this is a reflection of Pearson's abilities when next season he'll have new players, new mindset, a fresh start. Plus, with a bit of luck, some clarity off the field about our ownership, maybe even a different CEO, hopefully a competent medical team - never under estimate how things going awry off the field are always reflected on it, too. Rightly or wrongly, too many players are on the beach thinking we're safe from relegation. Why is Diedhiou, as just an example, going to bust a gut for anyone now? He just wants to stay in one piece before signing a fat new contract somewhere else. Which is understandable - unless you're a City fan, in which case it's infuriating.
    7 points
  29. I wish more people would read this. The few that are starting to post their disappointment at Nigel or concern that the results under him aren't great are forgetting he has absolutely no room to change the squad that is a) full of players that are leaving, b) has an injury list to contend with that has gutted our starting 11. How anyone can begin to judge him without giving him a time to build his team is beyond belief. He has to be given a chance. I'm just hoping he wants to be here.
    7 points
  30. @JonDolman out of interest if you’re CEO, do you let the head-coach (as the chooser of which players he wants) buy / recruit so many players and not play them at all / very much? Do yo allow him to buy / recruit someone and then a season later (sometimes quicker) want to get someone else in that position because it hasn’t worked out? That is my criticism. Where is the control of the “on a whim recruitment”, where is the critical challenge, e.g. how does x fit in, why doesn’t y fit in anymore, why did we sign z if you’re never gonna play him, why don’t you do better with them on the training ground etc. Where the player hasn’t worked out, do you go back and analyse why you recruited them in the first place, under what requirement, has anything changed, etc, etc. Where is the continuous improvement of the process. Or is every signing a little ego boost? Like you, I don’t think MA id’s players, but he allowed LJ in particular to recruit without a plan (a plan he should be helping to build and then implement and stick to), allow him to show little patience with players. He’s allowed the head-coach to solve problems by recruiting, rather than on the training ground, or through man-management. That’s one big area where the CEO has let us down. It’s left us with no succession planning, a squad of out of contract 28+ year olds, and u22s in the main. I don’t think that’s acceptable.
    6 points
  31. If there's one thing I can't stand on any forum it's the "I'm a better fan than you" opening to a post. If your intention is to change people's opinions with the strength of your argument, why feel the need to start with this approach? Also, to lay any blame for City's lack of on field progress at the door of supporters is utterly ridiculous. If you rang your broadband supplier to complain about the quality of service would you be happy if they responded "we do apologise Sir, only it's down to the enormous sense of entitlement to a decent service from our customers, that means we are unable to provide the quality you want. So blame your fellow users and not us, OK?" Praising Mark Ashton for selling decent players for a good fee is as daft as praising an art dealer for getting a good deal on selling a Picasso. It's his job. In other areas of the business, we continue to make significant financial losses, our wage bill is still too high and our recruitment strategy has departed increasingly from the owners model and vision for the club. All the while, pre Covid, we, the supporters continue to click through the turnstiles in numbers not seen since the late 70's As for entitlement, Since it's creation, 49 clubs have played at least one season in the Premier League. There aren't too many clubs outside of that group with the wealthy ownership, facilities and supporter base that we have and yet one play off defeat is all we have to show for what must be hundreds of millions of pounds of investment. No, it's not that we are entitled to anything but with all of these things in place we have a right to expect better than what we have seen so far.
    6 points
  32. I’m pretty sure that we signed Wade Elliott permanently (had been on loan), Mark Little, Korey Smith & Luke Freeman all in the same week & then we brought in Luke Ayling the week after. Aaron Wilbraham also joined two weeks after that. When you consider all their contributions to our first title winning side since the 1950s it is hard to argue.
    6 points
  33. With respect and especially given your attack on fellow supporters (calling loyal supporters a problem is just that - an attack) who dare to question him, you should care. It’s our hard earned money that goes towards that salary, it’s our club that he is getting paid nearly double the average commensurate salary to run (poorly). All very well saying it’s ‘1.5% of so and so’s fees’ but what about the losses? Are you going to ask him to payback percentages when we make losses on players as we will this summer and already have? Guessing not. You’re entitled to your opinion but calling fellow supporters a problem is way off.
    6 points
  34. Looks like I’m in minority but I’d keep. Been a weird season for him & others, Pearson likes him too I think & chums with Williams. Massengo, a fit Walsh & Williams would be a good midfield in my opinion.
    6 points
  35. Quiz question in 20 years time. Q) Who was on Bristol City’s bench on the famous night of the Man Utd victory? A) Arnold Garita Whooooooo????????
    6 points
  36. Perfectly put @Red-Robbo. Many of us have a lifetime of City. My Dad watched City from around 1908-11 with Billy Wedlock to 1984 in the Fourth Division. He started me on 7 April 1950. Yesterday was my 71st anniversary. As a teenager, I went to places like Northampton and Southend by train in 1960-63. I did not see any other City fans on those trips. In 1982 I bought 80 shares with the entire content of my bank account. Wife not at all pleased. For all the money invested by SL over the years, we are now watching one of the worst set of players that I can remember. That includes seven relegations, of which three were consecutive, two years in Division Four. I went to at least half the away games and every home game. But, as I've said on other threads recently, I have begun to believe that I will not renew, or bother going to games at all. And if I feel like that after a lifetime of City, how many others must feel the same. We are fed up with being shat upon from the City hierarchy.
    6 points
  37. Burt did the same thing with Agents. Had his preferences and ignored others. Like you say...it's common. But the detriment of the Club it's not so clever. As an aside...I think the Club could give a lot more clarity on our recruitment proceedings and who is responsible for what. I know they've spoken about it, but then something is said or found out that goes against the rhetoric being portrayed. The club could really stop a lot of rumour if it just clarified better.
    6 points
  38. I am seriously worried that “we” have permanently damaged some players to the point they may no longer be able to return to a playing career of any note. If we can’t protect Walsh, O’Dowda, Williams etc from recurring injuries when we should be taking their rehab as gently as possible, I fear we may have damaged them for the rest of their career. Lawsuits?
    6 points
  39. Where we differ is in our understanding of the function of this forum. For me it's a forum to discuss all things Bristol City with fellow supporters. The handful I know in person on here are committed, opinionated and highly intelligent but we have no power. Despite years of frustration we usually renew season tickets - although maybe not this year. No heads roll as a consequence of anything debated on here. I've met Steve Lansdown several times, I've heard him speak about the club on many occasions. I've never had the impression that he gives a greater weight to supporter opinions that he does to his own. He has all the self-doubt you might expect of a self-made billionaire! He's a decent chap, I've enjoyed talking with him. I know a little about Mark Ashton, respected for his deal making as I understand it from someone who's encountered it. But the evidence of my own eyes and ears tells me that he is a terrible communicator! Steve Lansdown has not been a very successful football club owner. We are marginally higher in the league rankings than when he came along. If he leaves soon he'll leave some infrastructure projects for which we should all be grateful...although I note that I sit in the same plastic bucket seat in the Dolman as I have for a decade or more. The view of the ground has improved as the entertainment on the pitch has diminished. As for 'We never give it time...' - when I watched City troop off the pitch and out of the top flight at the end of the 1979-80 season I was a schoolboy (just). I'd not have believed you if you'd told me that 41 years and more or less an entire working lifetime later we'd not have returned.
    6 points
  40. The man's been in charge for 8 games and doesn't even know if he'll be here in four weeks time. He has limited options due to injuries. It's not unreasonable to give the current players, including the wasters, at least a few opportunities. I would suggest that after his post-match interview on Monday, a few have lost their final chance and won't be seen again in a Bristol City shirt.
    6 points
  41. So once we have the big clear out of players, who do you entrust to recruit the ones to take us forward. And when do you start that planning? MA can’t do that 2 Windows ahead, because he has no idea what he’s recruiting for / towards....and he’s not very good at it either. Clubs and their agents will have already been tentatively sounding out those free agents, the Mowatt’s and Powell’s of the world. We will have missed the boat if we wait til after the season ends. It would be an even bigger gamble to decide then than NP isn’t the man and then have to find another manager. We need some continuity. We need it fast. NP has done all the groundwork, identified the problems, ready to fire into action. He probably wants to tell a few players to not bother coming to training, but whilst he’s uncertain about his future how can he do that to a player? Journeyman? Thank you. So professional that how many times did LJ have to pick the “trusted ones”....and then the next game pick the “other trusted ones” because the original trusted ones weren’t the right trusted ones. We’ve recruited a bunch of players more fickle than our fans! We became more abysmal as each SOD and Cotts player left and was replaced. It’s a bit like back to the future that as each player left a bit more of the photo of Marty (Keith Burt) and his two siblings (Sean and Steve) got erased. Our squad is a bit like the D’Lorian....nice doors but a shit car underneath.
    6 points
  42. I said my bit ages ago I didn't agree with the celebrating and there's idiots at all clubs
    6 points
  43. The real (slim shady) trusted ones were the likes of Brownhill, Pack, Smith, Weimann....they drove standards, they were the ones ensuring their teammates kept their levels (as NP stated). The obvious observation is that none of those are here or in Weimann’s case, fit.
    5 points
  44. Tuchel is not English........therefore his opinion holds weight apparently. We have some really weird people in this country who seem to detest anything English.
    5 points
  45. Very true statement and fact. @oldstandrobin Any company run by accountants is too cautious by a mile. An accountant is simply a historian who gathers all the data of "What has occurred" and bases any future occurences on those facts and assumes that they will "Re-occur exactly the same in the future". I understand that Hargreaves is the "Gambler" of the pairing. The one who looked at situations to make bigger returns than basic interest gathering. Now that does not mean being reckless with money but considering how to increase a basic return on capital to make it a bigger money earner. To spend a bit more with a chance that it will bring a decent percentage return more than normal. Almost certainly why SL has continually gone for the less experienced manager simply because their inexperience does not give them the confidence to argue for the gamble. That is how I read the City philosophy under SL. Build the stadium and training facilities but never gamble on personnel. I appreciate that FFP rules may have been a factor in not overspending on incoming transfer fees and as a consequence the salaries for those players. But where money is involved there are always ways of "bending" the rules. Bournemouth a good example? And surely when one has approaching £2 BILLION in assets, to gamble £50 / £100 million on the personnel, manager and players, who would give us an outstanding chance of getting promotion. Where he would recoup his outlay! I'm not a gambler, never go near a bookies, spend money carefully. Tomorrow I go for my second Covid vaccination. There is a 1 in 250,000 chance that I will die from a blood clot. I will gamble that I am not the one and if I had SL's wealth, I would certainly gamble 5% of £2 BILLION on getting City to the Premier League!
    5 points
  46. See previous successes, then also see Hughton at Forest. At first Hughton and Forest looked be doomed from the start with poor results, and people on here were in the camp of "glad we didn't take on Hughton now". Looks very different now there, especially since he's had time to put his mark on the place. The players here, on the whole couldn't care less as most are off shortly anyway, and we've seen players like Fam not really do anything for ages, but still get picked to "show his value on the pitch". That is the bigger problem here.
    5 points
  47. Also, and I can't name my source, the hot dogs will cost 20p more when we reopen.
    5 points
  48. 5 points
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