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  1. You call him "Saint Rashford" because, of course, you disagree with funding hungry, poor kids?
    15 points
  2. Kick them out now. Expunge their records for this season. Get on with it Premier League. Don’t bother relegating anyone. 14 teams plus the 6 autos and playoff places....20 teams, make the other 3 x 22. 92 becomes 86. League Cup back to 2 legs for first two rounds. FA Cup Replays. The 20 PL teams can field proper sides because there’s no midweek European games. REAL football is back. **** the “greedy six”.
    15 points
  3. A lot of the talk to stop this has been about sanctions against the clubs. But, as this shows, these "elite" clubs are but the money-spinning playthings for a collection of American, Russian and Arab billionaires who have as little interest in European football culture as my mum has in drum n' bass. Clear and wide-ranging sanctions need to be spelled out. 1) Clubs who take part will have their historic records expunged and need to return trophies won from Uefa-sanctioned competitions. There can be no readmittance. Once you're gone, you stay gone. 2) Players playing in this breakaway league will have their registration to play and/or coach in any Uefa or Fifa sanctioned league or contest permanently revoked. That should make a few wonder what happens to their career once they cannot maintain at "elite" level. 3) Agents dealing with this breakaway league have their accreditation to operate in Uefa and Fifa sanctioned leagues revoked. Make your mind up and choose. Represent players from a few clubs or from hundreds. 4) Sponsors will not be allowed to participate in Uefa and Fifa competitions if they sponsor the ESL. 5) TV companies will not be able to bid for rights to televise Uefa and Fifa sanctioned leagues and contests if they broadcast ESL games. 6) Owners of clubs within the ESL set up cannot own stakes in Uefa/Fifa registered clubs.
    13 points
  4. Tweet above suggests it’s his opposition to the super league, not his performance on the pitch, that got him the sack. If so, more power to him
    13 points
  5. I’d just like to briefly interrupt this chat about being cold to remind people that the Gas are shit, have virtually no fans left in Bristol, are not actually ‘coming for us’ like they claimed and may even go down before their own manager. What a bunch of utter clowns, no wonder we don’t take them seriously anymore As you were...
    13 points
  6. There's talk the clubs who have signed up for this should have their records expunged for the last 3 years and the competition retrospectively awarded to the highest place legitimate club. That makes Bristol City 2018 League Cup winners. Admittedly I am the one that started the talk.
    11 points
  7. He's a decent and well principled man so I'm not surprised by this. There are many reports of him doing random acts of charity and kindness over the years. He's also a great character - his star may have fallen a bit in the last few years, but I think this is a really admirable stance. I wouldn't put it past Klopp doing something similar actually.. and that would get interesting. I think Sir Alex would've also a few years back.
    10 points
  8. Is this the one you mean? My apologies. For some reason, the link appears to have stopped at this stage, and I am unable to delete it. If anybody considers it inappropriate please feel free to delete - if you know how.
    9 points
  9. Apologies if already posted: https://www.grimsby-townfc.co.uk/news/2021/april/big-six-shirt-amnesty-launched/ "In light of recent events surrounding the introduction of the European Super League, Grimsby Town Football Club will be running a shirt amnesty for those who hold shirts for the English clubs involved. If you hold a shirt from the following clubs that are no older than three seasons old, Grimsby Town Football Club are giving you the opportunity to surrender these and receive a 2020/21 replica Grimsby Town shirt of your choice*: Manchester United Manchester City Liverpool Arsenal Tottenham Chelsea All shirts that are surrendered during the amnesty will be donated to local youth groups and humanitarian projects in Africa. You will be able to surrender your shirts in the Club Shop or Mariners Trust Bar between 10am and 4pm on weekdays and varying times over the weekend. You can find our opening times by clicking HERE. Without fans, football and Grimsby Town Football Club are nothing. We would like to thank you for the fantastic support you have provided us this season and we cannot wait to welcome you back to Blundell Park as soon as possible. " Great idea!
    9 points
  10. I think the thing I find a bit frustrating is people setting up fake moral tests for players that don't necessarily correlate. Rashford's public statements - whether you are cynical about them or not - all relate to one issue and one issue only - which is around kids getting meals provided during school holidays so they are not missing out. Whatever you think of Rashford, the European Super League is a discussion of whether an elite group of clubs should be allowed create a closed competition to maximise their revenue and ensure participation. I've no idea how Rashford feels on that subject but it clearly is not in any way related to questions around ensuring kids are fed. He might care about both subjects or he might care about only one but "if Marcus Rashford does not make a public statement on this subject then he clearly is a hypocrite when pretending to care about another completely unrelated subject" isn't a rational, coherent argument. It's just trying to shoehorn a pop at someone.
    9 points
  11. It's a crazy idea of course but I have to confess to finding all the indignation from certain quarters a bit funny! The likes of the Prem League, Fifa, UEFA setting themselves up as paragons of virtue and protecting the true value of football. Football whored itself out years ago and has continued to do so especially at the top end: CL place for finishing 4th, bloated competitions, cups devalued, parachute payments, corruption...I reckon Fifa and UEFA are only p****d as they've been beaten to it!
    8 points
  12. Yep. If there's one thing that Prince Philip hated it was undeserving elites getting a better deal than everyone else...
    8 points
  13. Yeah but Man Utd B team playing Norwich City in the Premier League will be about as watchable as Emmerdale mate. I thought this was going to be another cock waving exercise to try and get more stake in Champions League but it looks like a full on seizure of power. American and Middle Eastern money funding all of this just so the plastic American/Chinese/uae fans can watch their team play Real Madrid every other week, because they have no idea what the English games means to those outside of those 6 clubs. This game is not the one I grew up loving anymore.
    8 points
  14. Quick reminder that Arsenal and Spurs took £125m and £175m UK government loans last year paid for by us, all done while they must have been plotting a way to sideline English football for their own ends. Literally no shame at all.
    8 points
  15. American is better, because whatever your personal political views at least there is a decent chance it was made fairly ethically. When the Glazers took over Man Utd I did have a bit of a laugh at the owners, but at least I know where Walmart make their money. Russian owners like Abramovich & Demin are all basically thieves, mates of Putin who stole hugely from their people before getting out, whilst Chinese owners are going to be dodgy as **** if they are approved by their disgusting Government. Anyone who thinks anything to do with Dubai is going to be remotely ethical (hello Man City) wants educating.
    8 points
  16. Think this sums it up.
    8 points
  17. Just voted Mark Ashton’s announcement to leave the club as Champagne moment of the season.
    7 points
  18. We're talking about supporting a football team not a company though
    7 points
  19. “I’m off lads. I’m so good at my job I’ve been poached by a club in the middle of nowhere in the league below. “ ”what about those contract talks you promised us once the season ended?” ”Sorry, maybe I wasn’t clear. I said I’ve been headhunted and I’m leaving?”
    7 points
  20. Werhun going as well you say?? Never!! Who’d have thunk. As for Ashton’s announcement to the squad - wow!! I’m sure they were devastated (assuming they were interested enough to actually give a ****)!
    7 points
  21. I can only assume we're waiting to see if our application to join the 'super' league has been accepted
    7 points
  22. Preston club statement We have noted with disappointment the suggestion that a European Super League be formed as a means of concentrating yet more wealth into the hands of the few. Those English clubs who feel that such an attempt at a wealth power grab, thereby undermining and potentially destroying the English football pyramid, should look themselves in the mirror. If one takes the status of these so called big six over a longer time frame than just the formation of the Premier League it would take a wise person to guess at who these so called top six are. Over a sustained historic period, the suggestion that these clubs have been at the forefront of domestic trophy winning or domination doesn’t stand the test of scrutiny. Performance on the field of play with promotion and relegation and qualification for European competition based on winning football matches is a fundamental part of European football history. Having just experienced the devastating financial impact of COVID on football finances, English football urgently needs a fairer distribution of monies throughout the Leagues not a money power grab by the self-appointed few. There is already a huge disparity between the finances available to the top 20 clubs rather the rest of the football pyramid and many are in dire financial straits. This breakaway could destroy nearly 150 years of football history for short term riches for the few. The underlying principle that these breakaway clubs appear to have completely disregarded is that football is most importantly about its supporters. This European Super League plan has totally ignored their voice which is unacceptable. We are looking to Government, FIFA, UEFA, The FA, The Premier League and the EFL to ensure that this proposal is stopped in its tracks and the future of the English game as a whole is secured. Preston North End Football Club
    7 points
  23. I doubt they’re worried too much about relegation as it’s only a question of time before they get invited to the new European SuperLeague!
    7 points
  24. I know Werhun leaving is a huge shock, absolutely no track record of him following Ashton from job to job, is there? As for the players, I’d be amazed if any of them were remotely interested, their concern at present (whatever we think of them) will always be their own future, not that of the bloke who has just left a dozen of them in limbo. This smacks of the bit in The Office where David Brent says he’s getting promoted but they are closing the Swindon branch. ”You’re still thinking about the Swindon news, aren’t you?”.
    6 points
  25. Football didn't end when Manchester United dropped to the 2nd Tier in the 70s or when Manchester City just about managed to scrape through a third tier play off final against Gillingham, going up in 3rd place behind Walsall in the 90's. It didn't end when Spurs were relegated from the top flight in the mid 70's or when Liverpool couldn't get near a title for 30 years. Unfortunately, Football has been pandering to these money men for too long. Each step of the way has been designed to appease a few at the top and it hasn't made anything better. The creation of the Premier League, the abolition of the football combination to be replaced with a Premier only reserve league, an end to FA Cup replays, the expansion of the Champions League, the constant auction of TV rights, the demolition of the Associate members cup into a Premiership under 23's competition. On and on it goes. All of it done to appease the so called big clubs. This should absolutely be a line in the sand now. They need to **** off and when they're done ******* off they need to **** off a little further.
    6 points
  26. Means justify the ends. Don't think his personal background is too dripping with privilege, so it may be from the heart. Earning good money doesn't prevent someone having a social conscience.
    6 points
  27. Ah, but our right to disruptive protests has been taken away from us by the Tories.
    6 points
  28. This type of shady power grabbing, profit at all costs mentality underpins pretty much all of western society currently. Unfortunately there doesnt seem to be much outrage about the decimation of fundamental elements of society, the environment, social welfare, education etc maybe this will help people realise what the **** is going on around them right now, although I dont hold out much hope.
    5 points
  29. So he sent his doting mother Up the stairs with the stepladder, To get the Subbuteo, Out of the loft. He had all the accessories, Required for that big-match atmosphere. The crowd and the dugout, And the floodlights, too. And you'd always get palmed off With a headless center-forward, And a goal-keeper with no arms, And he'd managed to get hold of A Dukla-Prague Away Kit, His uncle owned a sport shop And he'd kept it to one side. And after only five minutes You'd be down to ten men, Because he'd sent off your right back for Taking the base from under his left winger. Come to half-time, you were losing, four-nil. Each and every goal, a hotly disputed penalty. So you smash up the floodlights And the game was abandoned, And the dog would bark And you'd be banned from his house. And your travelling army Of synthetic supporters Would be taken away from you And thrown in the bin.
    5 points
  30. Hope he takes the other one odowda with him aswell .
    5 points
  31. For those that haven't seen Gary Neville's rant.. Go Gary, I never thought he would question Man U. FWIW, Roy Keane agreed with him.
    5 points
  32. He missed the boat - the boat Madjeski and Dave Whelan and others hopped on - did Steve. Probably truer to say Steve missed the alarm that would've woken him up in time to catch the taxi that would've got him to the train station in time to catch the (gravy) train that would've got him to the port to board the boat that Madjeski, Whelan et al were waving from as it tooted its horn as it and sailed off into the filthy rich Prem sunset, leaving Steve to watch us at home to Gillingham, again.
    4 points
  33. As my mate, 'Manchester Mike' would point out to all who called him that with a very Manc accent, 'I'm from Salford, not Manchester!'. Hence he is now known as 'Greater Manchester Mike'
    4 points
  34. Expecto Promotion!!!!
    4 points
  35. Even this is outrageous, to be honest. New spots for 'elite clubs' who fail to qualify? Football is killing itself. Do these people not understand the reason football is so popular worldwide is the sheer competitiveness of it? "If we beat you we win, but if you beat us we win anyway" will quickly mean... NOBODY CARES. They're hollowing the game out for short-term reward. ------ Won't happen, but I genuinely wouldn't mind seeing the six clubs booted out and the Scottish clubs invited to form a new British league from League Two onwards or something. Having Rangers/Celtic compete alongside Everton/West Ham etc. would be interesting to me. The booted out six can apply to rejoin from the National League N/S.
    4 points
  36. Pretty certain Palace, Wolves, Villa and Leicester fans would be pretty excited. Pretty certain I'd enjoy it, just the same as I enjoy the climax of the conference season, the EFL playoffs, as would many many football fans. Football has been broken for too long and something seismic was needed to try and fix it, as long as there is support to stop owners selling everything off and running away leaving clubs to go bust then football can goo on and thrive for the people that are actually fans.
    4 points
  37. So having a read/listen around the web this morning, it seems... Ex players, commentators don't want it. Fans of the clubs involved don't want it. Fans of the clubs not involved don't want it. Then we get this... Real Madrid president Florentino Perez, the first chairman of the ESL, said the new competition would "help football at every level". "Football is the only global sport in the world with more than four billion fans and our responsibility as big clubs is to respond to their desires," he added. Juventus chairman Andrea Agnelli said the 12 clubs had "come together at this critical moment, enabling European competition to be transformed, putting the game we love on a sustainable footing for the long-term future". Manchester United co-chairman Joel Glazer will be a vice-chairman of the Super League. He said: "By bringing together the world's greatest clubs and players to play each other throughout the season, the Super League will open a new chapter for European football, ensuring world-class competition and facilities, and increased financial support for the wider football pyramid." And on the other side of it, this... Liverpool supporters' group Spirit of Shankly (SOS) said it was "appalled" by the decision of Fenway Sports Group, the club's US-based owner. In a social media post, SOS said: "FSG have ignored fans in their relentless and greedy pursuit of money. Football is ours, not theirs. Our football club is ours not theirs." Chelsea Supporters' Trust called the move "unforgivable" and said its members and "football supporters across the world have experienced the ultimate betrayal". The Arsenal Supporters' Trust called the club's agreement to join "the death of Arsenal as a sporting institution", while Manchester City's Official Supporters Club said the move showed "those involved have zero regard for the game's traditions", adding it was "determined to fight against this proposed Super League". The Manchester United Supporters' Trust had earlier said the proposals were "completely unacceptable" and the ESL "goes against everything football, and Manchester United, should stand for". Tottenham Hotspur Supporters' Trust said the ESL was a "concept driven by avarice and self-interest at the expense of the intrinsic values of the game we hold so dear". Go on, justify it now you greedy pigs.
    4 points
  38. Does it not run the risk of becoming a huge white elephant, similar to the North American Soccer League of the 70s? I’m not a huge fan of the Champions League, but it’s European Cup roots and the odd storyline, me I will watch some games. I really cannot see any attraction to this new format and I wonder if many others do?
    4 points
  39. I would suggest that looking for ethically sourced multi billion pound investment would be like trying to find a Bristol Rovers centre forward on a Saturday afternoon.
    4 points
  40. Oh yes. Liverpool, that community club showing its true colours yet again. They utterly disgust me
    4 points
  41. I don’t care what country it comes from as long as it’s legal, club do due diligence, etc and it’s right for Bristol City and SL.. No guarantee that English money is any better either.
    4 points
  42. Fair play to Gary Neville, he's having a right go!
    4 points
  43. As soon as any breakaway is announced, the clubs concerned should be immediately banned from their domestic leagues and cup competitions. If they wish to come back, they start at level 10 in the pyramid of that country. **** 'em. Those clubs have lost all perspective and respect. Glad to see German and French clubs have refused to take part.
    4 points
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