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Recently Bristol Manor Farm Avon Youth league teams had no referees for games. Manor Farm were not the only club affected. Entire divisions had no refeerees allocated to them. This stretched across age groups. No refs. The reason was the disgraceful behaviour displayed towards referees including refs of fourteen and fifteen by coaches and Managers. Referees are being driven away from the game at grass roots level and if they progress up levels they have Managers like that to contend with.

IT'S ALMOST A FOOD VOUCHER!!!!!!

£5.40! When the "sports Bar" first opened, they stated that prices would be the same as local pubs.

Thought tonight went pretty well. Free drink offer was brilliant! I ended up having two as someone else I know didn't claim theirs voucher ? I don't remember every question that was asked & answered. I managed to ask two questions; the first one (to summarise) was how many of the players & matchday staff were fully vaccinated. Richard replied that it was 95%. I didn't ask about the other 5%... My second question was for Dan Bentley, and how his chant was adopted by the City Women fans like myself for Fran Bentley (partly because I started it!). I asked how does it feel to not only have another player of his namesake, but a fellow goalkeeper & City player. He said he was amazed, and admitted receiving messages congratulating him on having a family member join the club, to which he firmly said that there is no relation ? I followed this up by asking Dave Barton if there are plans for a Bentley v Bentley challenge etc for the club's YouTube/social media. I think Dave & Dan both said that they'd be up for that. Was also great to meet several others in person for the first time. Got to chat with Gregor McGregor, as well as briefly Patch Warner & Matt Withers of @3 Peaps In A PodCast fame! Got a photo with Andi Weimann as well (saw others having them & thought I may as well!)

Nice article on BBC today about the steps Josh has been taking to help businesses in Burnley struggling with the financial impact of Covid-19. He’s a good lad Brownhill and very happy he’s done well for himself so far in the Premier League. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/58864872

Sorry I don't agree with this. GJ was undone by a combination of a first-team player being taken ill the day of the match (McCoombe??) forcing GJ to re-jig his squad at the last minute, followed by an awful injury to Orr (fractured cheek-bone) during the game and a wonder-strike from an old dinosaur who had never hit one like that before and would never recreate that again. I think Hull were lucky on that day - or perhaps WE were REALLY unlucky, rather than Phil Brown 'out foxing' us with clever tactics.

That final was as close as any game can be, we actually started it the better side & missed a couple of half chances. Losing McCombe the night before & then Orr in the first half was rotten luck, though as completely obsessed as people have since become over LJ coming on as result, our real issue in it was the inability of Trundle (who was very poor on the day), Adebola or Byfield (on as a sub) to score. I don’t actually think Brown is any better a manager than GJ was at the time, he just had the breaks on that particular day.

There is no way the club can ever moan about finances again. Me and @CyderInACan have both had a pint of Peroni. Cost 4 Tilsons.

Can you explain why the gent in the grey jumper, a committee member by all accounts, is touching the ref and saying 'get the **** in your room' and not trying to get the manager off the pitch? No matter what the refs have done there is absolutely no need for this and people wonder why there's a ref shortage? Behaviour like that is the reason i don't ref football, I umpire in the local cricket leagues and behaviour of players and team officials/supporters has started to go downhill over the past few years. We don't deliberatley go out to give bad decisions, we do our best under trying conditions at times.

Thought this was another Mark Ashton Thread!

Be good to hear or read a transcript of what’s said tonight if anyone has time. ?

So he's upset with the ref because he, Lee, doesn't know the rules of the game. Then at FT went and told the ref he has no respect for him (because he was rightly booked according to the rules of the game), swore at the ref, then got upset because the ref, rightly, basically threatened him with a red card rather than actually sending him off (initially)?. And now he's trying to justify it instead of holding his hands up and accepting full responsibility. Brilliant.

These tribal groups have been around for donkeys years and some of people on here slating members have probably forgot they themselves have possibly been involved in gang activity,we’ve had mods and rockers ,skinheads and grebos and if you look back even further krays and Richardson’s and various sectarian groups ,I know most if not all the lads who are claiming CSF and for all the city fans knocking CSF let me put you straight ,the pitch invasion v Bristol rovers 2013 was nothing to do with CSF but so called fans -so please tell me the difference . CSF is 40 years old and now mostly old men who sit and chat about the past ,I also know most of the tote end boys and we do get on and most of us hate cowardly acts

Then they’d have to leave early.

A fine? If football is serious about protecting refs he'll get banned from any kind of involvement in football for about 10 years. So bored hearing about the standard of refs when they have to deal with that.

Hilarious some of the comments on this thread. He had a rant. It’s definitely wrong but it’s not anything too dissimilar that we’ve seen from the likes of Warnock etc over the years. LL has given years of service to Manor Farm and non league football in general. He’s admitted he’s made a big mistake and will rightly face punishment but calls for him to face 10 year or even life time bans are frankly truly ridiculous.

And whatever muppet created that used an image of JB outside a court hearing! ?

Indirectly, I did ask this question for you (to Richard), pointing out that a ticket for this weekend was more than 1 month subscription to Sky Sports. The answer was largely as expected, there wasn't really one. I did try and press the point that whilst I acknowledged his answer that live sport was better than televised, and that being was better than viewing; it didn't really address the issue. Suffice to say there is no real answer, but the question was asked. But that doesn't get people off the armchair, but solutions rather suggestions might help with a lot of the challenges the club face. So, my suggestion to everyone is to think of your question/suggestion - basically try and answer your own question, and see where things go. I know from chatting at the bar after (thanks for the pint Richard!), there is a real willingness to understand the frustrations, and if the fix is reasonable the desire is there to implement it. We just need to be mindful of benefit on spend.

How splendid to see AD (87 years young) looking so well. As GT would of course say, top man.

It's not like you to deliberately bend the truth to fit your anti Johnson agenda...

Using your logic, how many pubs get 5 or 6 thousand customers (conservative estimate taking rugby into account) every couple of weeks?

Or just the fact that he wasn't very happy with decisions in the game. He needs to grow up pathetic behaviour.

I'll be there tonight. I probably won't ask a similar question to the one I did for a previous event earlier in the year (on Fixture Release Day). This question got read out & it was too awkward for anyone to answer properly...

Love this!

My favourite has to be Razor Ruddock on ref Roger Milford. Playing for Southampton against Arsenal he told Milford he was having a ****king nightmare and called him a ****. Milford, calling Ruddock over said Look at the Scoreboard. Your losing 3-1 so it's you who's having a ******* nightmare and playing like a ****. Now **** off.

That would certainly be the "football way"........ensure the Manager of Bristol Manor Farm gets the book thrown at him whilst loads of Managers in the Premier League and EFL get away with equally if not worse threatening behaviour this season. That should sort things out........

Phenomenal is a bit over the top. He’s barely played this season. Was very good against Peterborough

Haven’t looked at the thread so apologies if covered. Could someone ask Richard Gould if there’s any update on a Terry Cooper memorial ?

What a complete moron. Should be fired without doubt.

Also they wouldnt hear the tannoy in an emergency .

I'm surprised you didn't find it Robbored. It's on the official site. ? https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251976376

^ This. I don't think there is any appetite to remodel a recently refurbished stadium to house visiting fans in nicer seats and to put (some) home fans who won't fill the worst stand in the stadium for reasons unclear.

I think PB got lucky on that particular day, especially with our injuries. They got a wonder goal and then left Frazer Campbell with his pace up front to keep us busy whilst his team defended stoutly. I think GJ was by far the better coach. I have often thought we would've made a better job of the Premier League than Hull ever did.

I would hope that regular snapshots and projections were done, on various scenarios: best case, season started but full crowds by Sept/Oct worst case, no crowds in 20/21 sone scenarios in between But, even if this scenario planning did take place, Mel just went with the most risky / reckless option. Other clubs didn’t, they scaled back. So did Derby to some extent, but you still sacked Cocu at a huge cost. You still spent more than us on signings.

That may be true, but ... This; When the ground opened fully, the prices were competitive. I used the Fan park and drank in the ground. Now it's back to the old school way. Drink in the Pub until we barely have enough time to get in for kick off. Not sure why they changed, could have been making a loss I guess. But IMO it's short sighted. Still we all have that choice, I prefer the Pub.

You’ll get that from both of them. They’re straight talking guys - unlike Ashton who head was up his own ass and with utter distain to us fans.

A hen is a female chicken. The chicken is a domesticated subspecies of the red junglefowl originally from southeastern Asia. ????

Winning 5-0 at Swansea in the 1989-90 season, with Bob Taylor scoring a hat-trick, and driving back along the M4 with everyone flying scarves from their cars.

I’ve just come back to this after a few hours and….In what ****ing world is it acceptable to stand up for this shit? I go back to my earlier point - if we admit CSF protected people like me who wanted to just watch the game, then we have to admit that CSF also intimidated and drove away fans like me from the game from other clubs. Look at the average attendances if you don’t believe that. We’re better off without these pricks, who just want a fight under a banner they’ve misappropriated. My sons 9. If he never hears the initials CSF I’ll be delighted. Let the dinosaurs die. I’m happy they protected people, but if they didn’t exist, it wouldn’t be needed. They we’re the cause not the cure. And they should be ashamed of how, as a football fan, they led to me, led to us, being treated.

Birmingham C 0 - 4 Bristol C 89/90 season Large following as normal through this promotion season. Blues were the big fish in Div 3 that year, and this game was always going to be massive. Loads of trouble before, during and after the game. The Zulus were not happy at all !!

This might be a simplistic take on this. When the new ffp rules and limits were introduced Morris, in common with the owners of every other club, had 3 years in which to take the appropriate steps to bring Derby’s finances into line by the time of the first ffp reckoning. As we now know he did none of that, choosing instead to continue to spend, spend, spend in an attempt to gain promotion to the prem so that he had to resort to the convoluted “sale” of Pride Park to avoid them hitting the ffp buffers. Had he taken the right steps financially at the outset, yes it would have compromised their promotion aims, but that was the case for every other club that did comply, but more importantly, with better financial controls back then would Derby’s position have become so dire that administration become the only option? I used to be a mortgage adviser and remember seeing various clients following the “credit crunch” in 2008 onwards. Many of them had been living beyond their means for a few years, racking up overdraft, credit cards and personal loans and then re-mortgaging when they reached their credit limits, to consolidate their debts and bring monthly payments down. They would rinse and repeat this excercise whenever the debts reached a critical level. Unfortunately with the collapse of property values they were no longer able to do this and their financial chickens would inevitably come home to roost. Funnily enough, according to the clients it was never their own actions that caused the problem, but they would usually cite the impact of the credit crunch/recession/ less overtime etc. etc.. I can understand the administrator looking for every means by which to improve Derby’s appeal to a prospective purchaser, but It seems to me that Covid is a convenient reason on which to hang an appeal ( and yet another option for Derby to play the victim being pursued by the heartless EFL), but it does seem to me that, like many of my mortgage clients, Morris bought most of this on the club due to his profligacy at a time when the new financial rules should have caused him to be more financially cautious and responsible.

Why is a pint of Thatchers 50% more at Ashton Gate than it is in this pub? Please.

Sorry, I know you're not responding to me there but I think you're massively underestimating Fury there, and he's rated by all the knowledgeable people in the boxing world.

I feel like there are two sides to every story and this video only paints one. Lee is a good bloke and normally very level headed so I believe something must’ve been said by the referee.

Great post and summary of the situation James, top work mate ...

Back in City’s promotion year (to what was then the First Division) we had two consecutive away games against two of our promotion contenders, Sunderland and West Brom. A 0-0 draw with Sunderland was followed (or preceded, I forget now) by a 1-0 win at The Hawthorns. Holding on for that victory, under a constant barrage of crosses and shots, especially knowing how important it was to our promotion hopes, was nail biting to say the least.

I see you’re having a great run at the right time with the end of season being only 3 weeks away ?

That's a bit like Preston wishing they had Beckham a couple years after he broke into the Man U side. Tammy is way out of our league now.

Beating the great Leeds side in the FA Cup at Elland Road when they had gone 27ish games unbeaten. Donnie Gilles scored and then followed the longest 20 minutes of survival watching City that I have ever experienced.