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He looked really good when he arrived - people were raving about how we wouldn’t miss Pack - but I think it’s the injury that has set him back; he mentions he has just had another scan which shows it’s healed which will hopefully give him the confidence. I wouldn’t let him go anywhere.

I’m gonna be really harsh here, and say he was bricking making a sub. We never had control of the game at any point and he must’ve looked around at the subs bench (he selected) and thought if I make a sub now and we lose I’m stuffed....so he just dithered and dithered, eventually bringing on O’Dowda with 5 minutes to go when he thought it couldn’t impact one way or the other. I know he says he always goes out to win (on BBCRB he said the same), but I think it was placebo of a sub.

Good point. It does sometimes seem that our squad is more of an investment portfolio than a team.

S82 take note! F off with your forza songs that no one else can make out and stick to the classics.

Because feeling justified is no excuse to manhandle and intimidate officials so that would send completely the wrong message.

https://twitter.com/homeparkhero/status/1218226865820839937?s=09 So it's Plymouth, but Bakinson led the boy out. Thought this was a lovely tweet that reminded me of what it felt like as a young football fan.

He won’t convince me, if I ever see them go under it will be a happy day and I’ll be raising a glass or two. It would be some karma and vindication for the vitriol and glee they expressed in ‘82.

For any element of doubt, @CodeRed writes an MA speech every window. He’s becoming so good, OTIBers now think it’s real. I’m pissing myself at those that think it’s real. Sorry to spoil the fun, but I’ve run out if underpants.

Apologies if this has appeared before and been done to death, but you just don't get these combos any more…

And winner of the most ridiculous thread of 2020 goes to...... Ha ha. What a shout this is mind. I’m sure Bielsa was sat there, having recently managed Argentina, Marseille & Lazio, thinking “why hasn’t that Lansdown chap from Bristol City asked me if I want to take Bristol City to glory”. Until Bielsa arrived at Leeds, he probably had very little knowledge of the English 2nd division, let alone a club that hasn’t seen top flight football since he was a 25 year old youth coach in a northwest province of Argentina. “Hi Marcelo. It’s Steve. I’ve got a lot of money and want to make Bristol City the best club in the world. How do fancy having a crack at getting us out of the bottom half of the championship”. “The what? What is this championship of which you speak?, Bristol who? Steve? Have we met before?”

One significant reason his form suffered is that his was the first name on the team sheet week after week for a very long period. He, as has been the case with Brownhill recently, was flogged to the point of exhaustion and, on top of that, expected to shoulder the responsibilities of captaincy. At his best, he was among the most highly respected midfielders in the Championship and quite a few clubs would have taken him without hesitation, given the chance. I see no reason why, in principle, he could not achieve similar performance levels again, under the right manager and with decent players around him. There have been plenty of times just lately, when I’ve watched the ball being launched by our CBs over the heads of our midfield, that I wished he was still here and LJ, having let him go (whether willingly or reluctantly, I don’t know) has since complained of our lack of height and physicality in that area. It was reported at the time that Pack himself was not keen to go. If he was ushered out against his will, I would have a lot of sympathy for him, because he made a very important contribution while he was here and in doing so improved himself hugely as a player. So, yes, I’d have him back, too, and yes, it would mean we had somebody who would both drop deep to receive the ball from defenders and provide a physical presence. I may be in a small minority, but I think that it was a mistake to sell him and that we have missed him. I take the Cardiff fans’ comments with a large pinch of salt.

Why don’t refs book them all, swearing at a ref should be an instant yellow. You see it all the time why haven’t they fixed it.

Lazy? At times. Frustrating? Sometimes. The last player I can remember who just made me smile and a talent that made you stand up just incase magic happened? Definitely. My kids idolised him and he helped them love city and football. Not like the stat collectors we have become.

This would be a great idea for next season. Unreserved at the top. Then there is a case for waiting for rail seats to be installed after that. Would improve the atmosphere 100%. I do feel the club have messed up big time. They do seem to praise the singers when it suits them but do bugger all to help. This would be my idea that i posted on another thread

It's worth letting everyone know that this pic came from a series of stories Benik shared. Basically a team from the club are walking up every flight of stairs in Ashton Gate today in aid of research at the Bristol Children's Hospital into the same liver disease that Benik's daughter died from. The club have tweeted a link as below.

I thought that we weren’t too bad. I feel I should qualify that by saying smothering yourself in your own shit isn’t too bad when in recent weeks you’ve become accustomed to eating it.

You sure? Smaller clubs than ours have been promoted while leapfrogging us as we plod aimlessly on!

Wow, they must be expecting the M4 to be really busy!

Sick of being level on points with the top six in the championship..? Not really..!

We support the club, not Lee Johnson FC WTGR 62. Personally, I think his football is very poor this season and, given the £££ he's had to spend, his time at City should be in question. I've nothing against the bloke, I'm sure he's a good lad but is he lucky to still be in charge? Maybe. While he's Manager, I'll support him but that certainly doesn't mean he's beyond question or criticism.

I dont think we played well at all. Very disjointed. Passes were poor, and we were really bad at winning the second balls but appreciate people see things differently. Thought Barnsley were poor too but they did counter well and create chances (but were as bad as we are at finishing them). I'm really pleased for the 3 points though. Thought it was going to end 0-0 so very happy with the result and fair play to the lads reactions - you could see it meant a hell of alot. Fair play to Lee too. He takes a lot of stick on here (and some of it justified - when it's not personal), so I'm pleased he's got a result today. More than most though, I hope this helps to build the players confidence and belief which feels like it's been lacking recently.

I’ve been thinking over the last few weeks... what’s this forum going to be like if we finally make it to the promised land. we will obviously struggle. If you look at Newcastle, awful to watch something like 30% possession at home and no shots on target until the 85th min ( last couple of games have been especially poor ). Bournemouth have been awful, Norwich and Brighton have struggled of late ( ok , Bournemouth won their last game but before that were bad ) , Southampton started bad then got hammered 9-0 but have turned it around since etc etc it’s quite likely we will come back down , then re-build with the parachute payments, hopefully go back up and become a sustained premier league club. I’m just curious, with all the negativity on here after a couple of defeats, surely it will be toxic if we are in the bottom 3 of the prem mustering the odd goal / odd win here or there ?

Pisa pisa pisano pisano pisano, pisa pisa pisano, pisa pisano

We're also only a handful of points off third place so somewhere in our season we must have had some very good results! Give Johnson and the players some credit and stop highlighting our worst results.

The standard is shocking with the exception of Brentford

As a teenager I smoked pot everyday and even got my mum to sew 'legalise weed' onto my one of my No Fear t-shirts, and used to regularly espouse the fact that drug takers are the smart ones, and those who denounced drug taking and vilified those who participated in it as brainwashed morons. Now I'm older I've realised there is a lot more nuance to that view. I am still firmly a believer in the legalization of drugs, albeit in a heavily regulated environment (with strict legal punishment on those that do not adhere to the rigorous testing and legislature that could make drugs significantly more safe for consumption that they are today). Yet, gone are the days when I naively thought of them as harmless, fun and starry eyed consumables that just led to peace and love. Whether it's a joint, a can of beer, back of gear, or potent psychedelic, it can cause severe harm, distress and societal harm - and they should all be treated with the respect and sometime trepidation that they deserve. We need to begin opening the narrative on drug taking, and stop shying away from difficult discussions on it - I'm amazed at the amount of people who say things like 'I've had problems but never had to do x'. I can almost guarantee that said person will have someone close to them, who they respect, who have had their alcohol or drug demons, that is just how prevalent it is. Furthermore, as we lurch into the 2nd decade of the 2000s we seemingly are falling from one societal addiction to another; whether its chronic drinking, spice smoking, habitual cocaine sniffing, or completely unhinged sports gambling, addiction is a problem that needs to be tackled in a far more serious way than we currently do. For centuries, we've gone for the approach of pushing addicts to the fringes of society, through incarceration or withdrawal of state support, and it just isn't working. Banning anything and everything we can get addicted to one of the most tragically shortsighted universal policy decisions countries over the world have made. Treating addiction as a medical issue is the way forward, and we're kidding ourselves if we don't think that a colossal increase in public investment into the problem isn't the answer.

Is this you negging me? if so, it's working!

Until we remove the demand we'll never even get close to solving the problem. That includes education and strict punishments for buying. I liken it to stolen goods. The drug dealer in this comparison is sourcing goods illegally. The man on the street is knowingly buying them and can be harshly prosecuted for handling stolen goods. When it comes to drugs there is no punishment for the latter. Bonkers. Even in the Cotswolds kids are perfectly happy to buy drugs and care not one jot for the misery they have created along the way - the violence, prostitution, trafficking etc that it finances. They don't appear to see the link.

You're new on here, aren't you?

Dreadful again but we will pretend we are playoff contenders. Win is a win fair enough delighted with clean sheet but going nowhere with this football. Look where in the table our last 3 league wins are from. Today changes nothing

$32,500 + car allowance

"for whom you can flip a coin as to whether his next 10 league games yield two points or 28." The best description of LJ I have ever read.

Selling Bentley would mean this team has no real ambition of getting promoted

Yeah, he was sent to Coventry last season.

Is that a spoof?

I thought you began by making a comment about otib to which I responded. As regards the football, I think you've forgotten Shrewsbury and all that meant apart from the game itself. Some of us aren't happy with being a decent sized Club in the only major city in england that is yet to achieve Premiership football and seem unlikely to with the present set-up. (ie manager and owner) That's been the pattern in the last few years - fading away after christmas and then selling our disenchanted best players.

Could we play Pato where Eliasson mainly played and move Eliasson right with Fam up top? I feel Eliasson is in Dasilva's way and Pato can drift into midfield opening space for Dasilva. Also Eliasson is far more involved when on the right.

Exactly how I saw it too. Paterson MOM.

Not missed a home game in 20 years, just telling you how it is, we have been appalling to watch at home for 18 months, a win is a win which I will celebrate like any City fan but everyone around me are fed up watching this boring directionless football. A stay of execution is about right.

Good / Interesting / thought provoking thoughts on Eliasson , Dave Eliasson is symptomatic of one of Johnson’s major flaws IMHO Recruiting / Planning / Planned playing ethos / Squad Building I’ll take you back to when we signed Eliasson At the fans forum a few days later LJ did a 20 minute presentation on recruitment and on the signing of Eliasson ( @Harry) Sat in bed with laptop , wyscout etc I can go into detail about how the one player or type of player he wanted was Anthony Knockart who was flavour of the month at Brighton and he went into great detail how Eliasson showed all of Knockharts traits Now you , I And most on this forum will have an accurate assessment of Anthony Knockarts attributes , but also the downsides (In simple terms defensive attributes / discipline and team cohesion) So where did Eliasson ever fit into his plan and playing ethos - did he expect to sign a Knockart clone / game changer yet have someone who also fittted naturally into his planned formation and style with good in his defensive responsibilities ? Shiny toy syndrome FWIW I think Eliasson has some of the quickest feet I’ve ever seen and I’d be working on his goal output rather than turn him into a solid wide player - In the current squad he is the one who stands out as Premier League Potential IMHO A good coach IMHO should be able to form a side incorporating his abilities as our X factor

I was going to start a thread on the most improved player anyone has seen in recent times. When I watched traore for boro I thought he was just a chunky Ivan sproule. All pace and power but no end product and was amazed when wolves signed him. Didn’t think he had a footballing molecule in his brain. Shows how wrong I was, what a player he’s turned into . Robertson got ripped apart . Sign of champions by Liverpool , they saw off the challenge , fair play they can play and mix it .

Been in Hargreaves Lansdown for an interview today. Lansdown only left his phone in the gents by the hand-dryers. Unlocked too!

I admire your efforts but I doubt that the average City fan would know what ‘negging’ means? I do, but only because of my extensive online work projects over the years, but I think if you used ‘normal English’ you’d reach a wider audience ...

We were unlucky with Afobe’s injury!!

Nothing moving anywhere. They should make the Premier and Championship windows 2 weeks and then the whole month for the rest to allow quality loans to feed through. What will happen is loads of movement in last 2 days and quality players stuck in the stands in our league because there was not time to loan them out to leagues 1 and 2. Shit window that is too long !!

Brilliant. I hope Tyreeq goes onto great things and that boy gets to say “I was mascot and got walked out by Bakinson before he was famous”.

Always someone else's fault

How you’ve got Smith higher than Paterson I’ve no idea! Im quick to criticise Paterson (Not for his football ability) so credit where it’s due. I thought he was excellent today, one of the only “footballers” in our team. He was always positive, receiving it on the half turn and getting us going in the right direction. Some of our players should take note - you don’t need to be big and strong to protect the ball and it is possible to receive it under pressure without losing possession!!!!

I simply cannot fathom that there’s no place for Kasey even on the bench. Irrespective of how he’s been playing, he’s a game changer and surely we need as many of those available of things go awry?

Dont forget Brentford.