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  1. Didn't we do something for Many City away? STHs who'd been to X number of aways got priority? And for another recent away. Can't remember which one. Again, for STHs who'd done 3 or 4 aways.
  2. Depends where they live though doesn't it? Bristol is a pain in the wotsit in terms of proximity to most aways in this division. Of course, should we go up, a lot the away grounds would be easier and nearer to get to. 6 teams in and around London(ish). Although Palace is a nightmare to get to. Many members may live in and around the Midlands. Or between Midlands and Yorkshire or Lancashire. They can get to quite a lot of aways with only about 90mins-2 hours travel. Double for us coming from Bristol.
  3. Additional point to the above: how many of our STHs go to *every* away game? I get to about 6-7 aways every season and I usually see the same faces. My guess is that there are no more than 300 max City fans who attend every away.
  4. Am copying and pasting my comment from 10th October when the club announced that a new loyalty scheme would be introduced: Struggling to get an away ticket in this division will rarely be an issue. Luton, with such a small allocation in a small ground, being a bit of an anomaly. The only other occasions will be away games towards the end of the season if we're in the top 6 or even challenging automatic promotion. But, the biggest draw will come should we make the play-offs. Away fans usually get 2,000 tickets, irrespective of the home team's capacity. However, getting away tickets will become a big deal should we ever go up. Almost every Prem club provides 3,000 away tickets (with the exception of Bournemouth due to their ground being almost as small as Luton's). I liked what we did about 10-15 years ago with the traffic light priority points system. Someone on here will point out if I get any of this incorrect, but from memory points were awarded based on: Distance to away ground (from AG) Time and date of match at away ground. e..g a Tuesday night away to Norwich would guarantee maximum points. A Sat 3pm ko away to Reading only the minimum. With something like a trip to the East Midlands or South Yorkshire for a Sat 3pm ko being in the middle. Priority order for away tickets went something like this(I think...) 1. Season ticket holders with x number of points (accumulated through having attended x number of aways) 2. Members with x number of points 3. Season ticket holders 4. Members 5. General Sale Giving members who regularly attend aways but can't afford a ST and/or don't live in/near Bristol was a way of rewarding their loyalty. It wasn't perfect, but I think worked pretty well. The biggest criticism was them getting priority over STHs who never (or rarely) went to aways. No system will work brilliantly. But, I like allocating points based on how I think we did it before. It does mean that X fan could go to 3 aways near Bristol and Y fan go to 1 4-6 hours away and Y fan gets more points that X does for his/her 3 outings, but as I said, the system isn't perfect. Something like this (or similar) would be a decent option. One thing: if this loyalty scheme discounts past attendances at aways over this or previous seasons, it'll be a bit of a mess if we go up (as demand will far outstrip supply). It'll be ok however if we don't.
  5. Just done me bit of research: QPR have been allocated 1,970 tickets for their trip to Fulham (Fri 22nd Nov) Derby 1,964 (Tues 26th Nov) Don't we usually get 3,000-4,000? So, expect half what we normally get given.
  6. Oh, completely. I'd be surprised/disappointed if we did this though.
  7. It will be interesting to know how many STHs we think go to every/the majority of aways too. We obviously know of @Olé. I'm a STH and make it to about 5-7 aways a season. Only been to Stoke so far this season. Whenever I go, I see the same faces. I reckon (completely guessing), there are no more than between 200-300 STHs that go to every away too. This would of course increase dramatically if we got promotion. I'm not a fan of the prospect of an away ST. I understand why some clubs do it, but it means there will be very few away tickets that ever make it to home STHs, let alone members, and virtually none for general sale
  8. A few things: Struggling to get an away ticket in this division will rarely be an issue. Luton, with such a small allocation in a small ground, being a bit of an anomaly. The only other occasions will be away games towards the end of the season if we're in the top 6 or even challenging automatic promotion. But, the biggest draw will come should we make the play-offs. Away fans usually get 2,000 tickets, irrespective of the home team's capacity. However, getting away tickets will become a big deal should we ever go up. Almost every Prem club provides 3,000 away tickets (with the exception of Bournemouth due to their ground being almost as small as Luton's). I liked what we did about 10-15 years ago with the traffic light priority points system. Someone on here will point out if I get any of this incorrect, but from memory points were awarded based on: Distance to away ground (from AG) Time and date of match at away ground. e..g a Tuesday night away to Norwich would guarantee maximum points. A Sat 3pm ko away to Reading only the minimum. With something like a trip to the East Midlands or South Yorkshire for a Sat 3pm ko being in the middle. Priority order for away tickets went something like this(I think...) 1. Season ticket holders with x number of points (accumulated through having attended x number of aways) 2. Members with x number of points 3. Season ticket holders 4. Members 5. General Sale Giving members who regularly attend aways but can't afford a ST and/or don't live in/near Bristol was a way of rewarding their loyalty. It wasn't perfect, but I think worked pretty well. The biggest criticism was them getting priority over STHs who never (or rarely) went to aways. No system will work brilliantly. But, I like allocating points based on how I think we did it before. It does mean that X fan could go to 3 aways near Bristol and Y fan go to 1 4-6 hours away and Y fan gets more points that X does for his/her 3 outings, but as I said, the system isn't perfect. Something like this (or similar) would be a decent option. One thing: if this loyalty scheme discounts past attendances at aways over this or previous seasons, it'll be a bit of a mess if we go up (as demand will far outstrip supply). It'll be ok however if we don't. PS. It's a real shame that our SLO doesn't come on here. Pretty pathetic to be honest if this is thanks to the club.
  9. All to do with dressing room dynamics. Players can get funny. Anyway, can't see the club offering him a new deal...yet. Assuming we're firmly in the top 6 by January, can see a new contract being offered then. Which will put his price up even further. All assuming he has another excellent season.
  10. Was reported. The Post and I think by BBC Bristol.
  11. Trouble is he's only been here a year. And a new contract would have to match Kalas's or exceed it. Kalas on £25,000 a week is our best paid player. Can't see us offering Webster £30,000 a week. We go up though...??!! Our wage structure will be blown to pieces.
  12. As others have said, a good striker (better and more clinical than Fam) will make a huge difference. You could argue, as things stand, we're merely consolidating what we had last season. Although it's not that simple. Dasilva was playing his first ever season in the Champ. And got better and better. Webster (if he stays) will continue to improve. I still feel like a creative midfielder is as important as another striker. Someone to offer something a little different. I remain unconvinced that Palmer is that person, should he sign. Brownhill drives the midfield forward, but was clearly knackered by March. Pack rarely offers much as an attacking threat.
  13. Ta. Yep, seen these. At times, he reminded me hugely of Tomlin (loan), but not nearly as good or as exciting. That ability to go past people for fun. The sort of pass that no one else attempted. The thing he needs to learn is when to pass and when to take on the second or third man. He started 2 games? Birmingham at home and against someone else...can't remember. He was subbed at HT v Brum, rightly so. Too many trying to beat the entire opposition teams type runs, only to be easily tackled and give the ball away. LJ said he wasn't fully fit, which would explain a bit. Let's see. I would think if comes, it's not to make the usual 30 mins cameo appearances. He'd be replacing someone like Paterson, another player who has plenty of skill but not enough application, and doesn't impose himself enough on games. For a low fee, I'm sure it's worth the punt. And the fact LJ spoke about wanting to sign him clearly means he has a lot more to give.
  14. Extremely relieved Dasilva and Kalas signed *before* Lampard took over. Was at the back of my mind throughout the whole will he or won't he become Chelsea boss? And there is no way Palmer will get anywhere near Chelsea's starting XI so any delay in him joining us will only be temporary. Whether he should be is another matter. I was underwhelmed, despite the occasional bits of sparkle.
  15. Maenpaa was our unsung hero last season. His injuries meant he didn't receive the plaudits that the likes of Webster, Kalas, Dasilva had. But, he barely made a mistake all season. This signing would make little sense. It's a funny business getting in a 2nd keeper, knowing they're only likely to play a handful of games.
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