marshy

Spot on. Very well said.

It could work with Curtis at the helm if they brought in Nigel Pearson as his Assistant.

The odds to be looking at are those for relegation. 15/1 to small stakes on Betfair seems reasonable value to me. Absolutely devastated by this sacking and a lot of the players will be too.

Good God, the snake looks nervous.

HT Leeds v Rotherham 0-0 : Ayling RB for Leeds, Vyner RB for Rotherham.

Good points. Even when winning the manager should obviously be looking at ways to improve. I remember the famous Ferguson rant a while back after Aberdeen had actually won the Cup. Great first half, poor second to sum up. You pinpoint it exactly, mental and physical reasons. Physically it is a question of fitness, as you state, and the use of substitutes. Mentally, concentration yes...often goes when you're knackered, but also the worrying way we tend to not exercise control when ahead. To use Pack as an example, there were numerous times in the second half when Forest were building up a head of steam when he had the opportunity and plenty of time to bring the ball down and make a simple pass but instead chose to kick or head upfield as far as poss, give back possession and invite pressure. Great win though.

Sprake is also the only one, as far as I know, who managed to throw the ball into his own net for an O.G.

He started it.

I'll let you have the last word. I'm sure that's what you want.

The expression 'taste of one's own medicine' springs to mind. I'm sure you understood the point about good and bad law I was trying to make using a hypothetical example but you chose to ignore it and twist it around to further your own point-scoring agenda.

Coming from someone who tells us that we should '' ignore imaginary lines drawn on a map'' this advice is laughable.

1).The very nature of a hypothetical argument is that it can be either possible or impossible. The argument exists to make a point, the point being on this occasion that 'good' or 'bad' law is often a matter of opinion depending on who passed it and who benefits from it. You appear to wish to be the sole arbiter of whether a law is good or bad. 2).Your statement is quite obviously nonsense. There is a democratic deficit within the EU, even Merkel has acknowledged that point. 3). Very John Lennon. 'Little Englander' is the latest line of abuse to be hurled at Farage and UKIP. Personally I think his point of view is the exact opposite as he constantly makes the point that we should be endeavouring to widen our links with trading partners globally. However, people I'm afraid will only hear what they want to hear. The EU appears to be very concerned with lines on the map as they try to expand their sphere of influence. Personally I would support the principle of self-determination and offer any people a referendum where there is an obvious interest. Catalonia and eastern Ukraine are two regions that spring to mind. Unfortunately the EU is too concerned with the current 'lines on the map' as you put it. 4). Thank you for your advice. I shall endeavour to ignore it. Refer back to Point 1).

Well I can accept the fact that most of it was sold before the bail out but who knows precisely how much was held back for the bail out. Perhaps it had all been wasted on enlarging the public sector. Osborne, not my 'mate' by the way, I've never voted for them, may be taking some bad decisions but somehow he is still ensuring that UK growth is once again the fastest in the G7, figures published today. As far as I know he has never had the arrogance to claim, unlike Brown, that he has the ability to 'put an end to boom and bust'. The decision to sell off the utilities of course may have been a bad thing, that is your opinion. I would argue that they were an albatross around the country's neck. Held to ransom by militant unions. I'm off to France at the end of the month to see how things are going over there. I will be travelling around by train. Apparently I have to thank the French taxpayer for subsidising my travelling expenses to the tune of 72% of the fare.

Well I think that if the EU moves towards ever closer political union then an EU army is inevitable. It's well worth googling EU Army/Military Force and looking at the support for this that already exists. Alienation eh, a terrible thing. Just make sure you don't go out and do something you might regret.

Doesn't 'currently'. 'Embryonic army'. I said 'ten years time'. It was a hypothetical example to highlight the contradictions inherent in the concept raised by Nibor of 'good' and 'bad' law...which in the example given is a matter of opinion. I won't be alive in 30 years' time, you probably will be. If the totalitarian European superstate is at permanent war with Eastasia as in Orwell's nightmare vision in 1984 don't say you weren't warned. Small is beautiful.

Just to comment on one of your points although they are to a large extent interconnected and certainly connected to membership of the Eurozone. Greece is in a huge deflationary spiral with massive levels of unemployment and youth unemployment in particular. Economic policy has been largely taken out of their own hands, it is in effect a puppet government. They are being forced by the Troika to follow an austerity programme. This is deflationary in itself but when combined with euro membership in which they are saddled with a hugely overvalued currency the result is catastrophic. Sure their government made mistakes, year upon year of Socialist governments and massive overspending, that is undeniable but EU/euro membership is not giving them the tools they need to extricate themselves from their current plight.

'Sandy vaginas'...I had to look that one up. I have to say that I disagree completely and fundamentally with your post. Just to give a hypothetical example. Imagine that the current crisis in the Ukraine blows over but the pro-Russia group in the east keeps up the pressure to such an extent that in ten years time Russia decides to act. By this time the embryonic EU army is much bigger and an EU law is passed ordering EU-wide national conscription to fight the Russian peril (who knows which unelected totalitarian monster might be heading up the EU by this time). Now there are some who would consider this to be 'good law', you might be amongst them. There might be others like myself who owe no allegiance to the EU flag who might think this to be thoroughly 'bad law'. Good and bad in this instance is largely a matter of opinion. Of course if we were a self-governing democracy then 'bad law' can easily be overturned by the next elected government if the electorate so wishes. I simply cannot understand why so many people are prepared to see the ability to make our own law handed over to a foreign power.

I think we should watch and wait for the law of unintended consequences to come into effect.

Between 1999 and 2002 Gordon, Canute, ''I have put an end to boom and bust'' Brown sold off 60% of UK gold at rock bottom prices. George Osborne called it ''one of the worst decisions ever made by a British Chancellor.

The first debate could be likened to two boxers weighing each other up in an opening round. Once Farage realised what a lieing, hectoring, smug, self-serving snake he was up against he changed tack accordingly, came out for the second round, and delivered the knock-out blow. Dignity, from Clegg, you will be waiting a long, long time. It says a lot that, after Blair, people could be fooled again and a man like this can rise to the position of Deputy Prime Minister. The answer to the question, 'How do you see the EU in ten years time ?'' was instructive. Clegg, 'pretty much the same as it is today'. Well 50% youth unemployment in Spain, for instance, and correspondingly high figures elsewhere. Demonstrations in 53 cities in Spain yesterday and a huge one planned in Brussels tomorrow(AFP). Is that where we want to be in ten years time? People were alarmed and critical of Farage's mention of the far right party in Greece but he was simply stating the truth. The National Front is making huge gains in France. You have to be blind not to see what is developing, or perhaps people simply do not wish to see it. Increasingly people have had enough of these tyrannical despots in Brussels and wish to reinstate their self-governing democracies.

I detect a note of humour in his comment about Mercedes and Champagne. If you think that sums him up I respectfully suggest that you haven't been listening carefully enough. With regard to banning mobile roaming charges this is another example of the EU getting involved in distorting the market. It may be great for people like yourself who travel a lot but the companies will compensate by increasing charges elsewhere. This means of course that those who prefer not to travel or don't have the means to travel much will end subsidising those who do. Another example is the decision to stop the insurance companies giving lower rates to young women drivers as opposed to young men despite the fact that all the evidence from statistics gathered over the years indicates that young men have far more accidents.