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  1. Scared isn't the right word, but to be apprehensive of large crowds at a time when Bristol has 1% of its population carrying the virus is fair enough. Double-jabbing provides immunity for 90%-95%. You will not know if you're in the minority for whom it hasn't worked until you catch it.
  2. TBH the Post is being rather hyper-cautious in not reporting remarks made in open court by the prosecutor in a case that is going to be heard before magistrates. I suppose the justification might be the Rovers' statement reported her words without context and therefore - unless the Post provided its own context - they might fail a "fair and accurate" test.
  3. True. Maybe just encourage the wearing of them, as supermarkets now do. I'll be wearing one until I get to my seat. Being double-jabbed though, I think I'd put my life in more danger if I had one of their pasties.
  4. A fair response. Personally, I'm undecided on Vaccine Passporting in stadiums. I think compulsory masks in concourses and when queueing for turnstyles is reasonable. I just don't know whether for a City type crowd, passporting is a lot of mither for little gain. There may be other wise precautions. Staggered entry and leaving times perhaps. Whatever they choose, I can't see restrictions lasting too long if things continue as they are going. Different story in nightclubs where you're packed in an indoors venue breathing heavily and having to shout to make yourself heard. Shouting in stadiums tends to be to the air, to express your displeasure!
  5. You're miles out in your estimation. It's 2-2,500 under-50s in England, even using the government's shit "28-days" method of calculation, which will understate deaths in the younger cohort; https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=nation&areaName=England And even if most deaths are in over 50s, so what? Are we all on the metaphorical scrap heap after then?? Your rather blasé attitude also ignores Long Covid which can strike any age range and fitness level. Ask Steve Cotterell if he recommends getting that? It has been estimated to have affected 2 million Britons and it represents a massive challenge going forward to the NHS. No, a discussion can legitimately be held over whether Vaccine Passporting is worthwhile in football stadiums - or what alternative measures might be used - but belittling the impact and the continuing danger of the virus is not the way to do it.
  6. The Pandremix problem - a very small number of serious side effects in 12-16-year-olds - were observable within weeks. They didn't suddenly come to light years after vaccination. The mechanism of how a sudden rise in immune response could trigger narcolepsy in a very tiny number of adolescents is now understood. Although Pandemrix was within product safety limits, it had gone through Phase III trials involving 6,000 volunteers, it was withdrawn for use in this age range as other vaccines that protected against H1N1 were available and these were used instead on this cohort. In total, around 17 cases of narcolepsy were linked to this particular vaccine out of 30 million doses administered. Most countries using the vaccine did not record any raised incidence rates of narcolepsy following their Avian Flu immunisation campaigns. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30122647/ In the case of the various Covid vaccines, Phase III trials were conducted on several hundred thousand people 15 months ago and they've gone on to be administered to 2,000% more people than received the Avian Flu vaccines. Serious side effects reporting has been negligible given the vast number of doses administered. In every Covid vaccine approved for use in this country, SSE are well within normal medicinal guidelines. Because there is a multiplicity of choice available, as with the H1N1 jab, we were even able to switch AZ away from certain age groups from an overabundance of caution. Taking AZ if you're under 30 is still safer than getting on an aeroplane. However other Covid vaccines were even safer, so we are using them. So, to answer your patronising question: Yes, I do understand how vaccines work and yes, I already know about Pandemrix. However, it appears you still do not understand how vaccines work or understand statistical risk.
  7. You don't really understand vaccines do you? They aren't implants, that stay inside you for years. All they are is a wake up call to your immune system. After a day or so, it's just your own bloodstream doing all the clever stuff about remembering a pathogen. It isn't the Manchurian Candidate - your immune system won't suddenly kill you 10 years after you've had an injection. And it isn't a case that "nobody knows this". People do know this, because the basic mechanism for ALL vaccines is the same. And we've had mass vaccination campaigns since the 1950s; campaigns that have eradicated a number of dangerous diseases from the West. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Look in a way, I share some of your doubts as to whether a Vaccine Passport should really be necessary at AG. I certainly can imagine the government and our club buggering up the implementation! HOWEVER, if it decides it is, it isn't "blackmail and coercion". Your life doesn't depend on watching City live. No one's does. AG is a private premise. It has always had rules that govern entrance: Some set by the FA or the government; some set by the club. If it's decided it's necessary to keep people safe at a time that our infection rate is the highest in the world (and despite the fall over the last 7 days, it still is) then I think we have to live with it. It will not be forever. It is unlikely to be for very long at all. The last thing clubs want is to turn any potential customers away. It certainly isn't worth having some libertarian tantrum over.
  8. It did say in the story in the Standard that neither Georgia Barton or the friends whose house it occurred at were going to appear as witnesses. Statements taken on the night, the recorded call from Georgia Barton, a medical report and Barton's previous will likely form the bulk of the prosecution's case. In the UK, victims do not need to press for prosecution. The police will submit a file to the CPS if they think there is a case to answer and the CPS will look to prosecute if they think there is a reasonable chance of success in court.
  9. Do you mean this protest, which as you can see was covered by the BBC and on the front page of its website? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-57560664 Or these protests, also covered by the BBC: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-57958555 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57963035 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-57960044 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57957405 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-australia-57953658 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-57952516 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-57956846 All these stories are from the last two days on the BBC.
  10. As a former nurse, Kate Shemirani should really be able to realise that any bacteria that are "teeming" in your mask will have come from your own lungs, so if some of them cause pneumonia, then you've already got it.
  11. To play Devil's advocate here, I doubt many people in supermarkets will be shouting or singing. The NHS pinger app only contacts you if you've spent 15 minutes or more within 2 metres of an infected person. That's more likely in football than in a supermarket.
  12. For those who like facts rather than fiction, here two professors at the world's largest medical research university explain why vaccines do not affect fertility - and note that it is actually catching Covid-19 that will impact that. Unvaccinated women hoping to start families in the future might wish to keep that in mind. https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines-myth-versus-fact
  13. Wow! What a moron! Apart from the fact that it was the BBC's helicopter that took the pictures of the raid on Cliff's house following a leak from the Yewtree team (and the police took no press along) his Adam Johnson statements show he knows nothing about the case. Although all Johnson admitted was kissing the 15-year-old, he was actually found guilty of fingering her as well, and of grooming. His texts (which he told the girl to delete after reading them) made clear he wanted to have sex with her and set up a meeting for this to happen. The Evans retrial is controversial (see the link), but at a minimum it paints a rather sordid picture of the player's personal life. It has hardly ruined his career though. He was in L1 when he was arrested and now he's playing in the Championship. https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/14/campaigners-fear-evans-case-will-stop-women-reporting As for his claim, "everyone knows who Joey Barton is". Um, no, no, they don't.
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