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  1. Our last interaction with Tottenham would have been the loans for Rose and Caulker, wouldn’t it? I know their spells at Ashton Gate were a good few years ago, but I wonder whether Caulker’s interview with the Guardian a couple of years ago, and the issues he mentions (which Tottenham would presumably have been aware of well before the interview was published) have affected our relationship with them. “Tottenham sent me to Bristol City on loan at 18 and they put me in a flat in the city centre surrounded by nightclubs, two casinos opposite, the kind of money I’d never seen in my life, and no guidance whatsoever. I was pulled once by a member of staff and told I’d been spotted in the casino at 3am but their attitude was: ‘What you do in your spare time is your business. Just don’t let it affect your performances out on the pitch.‘“ Rose has clearly gone on to better things since his loan spell with us. Ten years ago I’d never have guessed he’d go on to play in a champions league final and a world cup semi final. This might be an unfair comment but during his loan spell he seemed to give the impression of playing for us because he’d been told to and not because he wanted to - I might be entirely wrong but I sense both players were glad to get back to Tottenham after their spells with us.
  2. Could it be played 24 hours later? The weather forecast for Wednesday looks a lot better than for Tuesday. Clearly it would hugely inconvenience our fans if it was pushed back by 24 hours at relatively short notice (eg late on Tuesday afternoon) and Shrewsbury might also not be able to get the game on 24 hours later given the need for a certain number of stewards (who might not all be able to work on Wednesday at short notice), unless it’s played behind closed doors. Pushing it back to Tuesday 21st wouldn’t give much time for Liverpool, potentially Reading, and either City or Shrewsbury to sell tickets for the game(s) on the 25th / 26th, although I’m sure it could be done.
  3. Full record here: https://www.11v11.com/teams/swansea-city/tab/opposingTeams/opposition/Cardiff City/
  4. Rooney‘s record in major tournaments is 7 goals from 18 starts. Not amazing, but arguably slightly better than ‘performing terribly’, especially when considering he was picked to play while clearly some way short of 100% fitness in several of those games. As for him being the penalty taker, that was only relatively late on in his England career. Lampard was the penalty taker for a good part of it, as evidenced by Lampard being England’s joint all time record penalty scorer, with nine (along with Kane).
  5. Currently in Perth (the Australian one, not the Scottish one) and decided to go along to Perth Glory v Newcastle Jets today. The scorer of Perth’s second goal in a 6-2 win was none other than our old acquaintance Neil Kilkenny. He played quite well today and seems to have lost the highly irksome habit (seen many times at Ashton Gate) of pointing and berating his teammates for the whole game.
  6. Germany in the last 16 in Dublin would have ‘loss on penalties’ written all over it. Although as ever with England, it’s best not to get too far ahead of ourselves (especially bearing in mind our largely unhappy history in the European Championships).
  7. Certainly didn’t happen in 2014!
  8. The winners of England’s group will play the runners up of the Germany / France / Portugal group in the last 16. If England get through it would seem better to finish second rather than first in the group.
  9. England’s path would only be via St Petersburg in the quarter finals if England finish second in the group and then win the last 16 game in Copenhagen. If England win the group, the path would be Dublin in the last 16 and Rome in the quarter finals. And if England finish third in the group and are one of the four best third place teams, it would be another route again (the exact route would depend on whether England were the best performing of those four qualifying third place teams, or second best, or third best, or fourth best). There are too many permutations at this stage to reliably predict what the route will be, and given England’s largely unhappy history in European Championship knockout games played outside England, I wouldn’t put too much money on England reaching a quarter final in St Petersburg.
  10. That was done with lights projected onto the statue, wasn't it, rather than a huge shirt?
  11. Fair enough. For balance I’d add that he also scored twice against Croatia in a competitive game, which isn’t included in your list above, and that if you bring in friendlies (for whatever they’re worth) he has scored against France (twice) and Germany. Agree with the rest of your post though!
  12. That may be so, but it doesn’t alter the point that it’s questionable whether Messi and Ronaldo fulfil the criteria you stipulated for judging Kane earlier in the thread (‘scoring international goals that count for something’). Suddenly when judging Messi and Ronaldo, different criteria are being used (‘most people would pick them in their team’). I may live in north London but I have zero affinity for Spurs. And for what it’s worth I think Kane has a long way to go before he can be considered to be anywhere near the same category as Ronaldo or Messi - I hope (for England’s sake) that one day he can be.
  13. Ronaldo scored one goal in four knockout matches at Euro 2016, against Wales (Daniel Sturridge and Jamie Vardy also scored against Wales in that same tournament, but sadly not in the knockout stages). And he hobbled off injured in the final, well before their winning goal. Portugal’s win at Euro 2016 wasn’t as reliant on Ronaldo as some would have you believe. A solid defence and a wise manager were equally as important as Ronaldo’s contribution, particularly in light of the ‘1 goal in 4 knockout games’ stat.
  14. Do you count Messi or Ronaldo as international greats, given that neither of them has ever scored a goal in the knockout stage of a World Cup (and Emile Heskey has more goals in the knockout stage of the World Cup than either of them)? And how about Lewandowski?
  15. Tommy Doherty and Dave Partridge both played against England (for Northern Ireland and Wales respectively) during qualifying for the 2006 World Cup. But as far as I can see they didn’t play against each other when Wales played Northern Ireland. Will continue looking / thinking as I reckon it must have happened at some point (aside from the other examples given above).
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