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  1. Fair enough. For balance I’d add that he also scored twice against Croatia in a competitive game, which isn’t included in your list above, and that if you bring in friendlies (for whatever they’re worth) he has scored against France (twice) and Germany. Agree with the rest of your post though!
  2. That may be so, but it doesn’t alter the point that it’s questionable whether Messi and Ronaldo fulfil the criteria you stipulated for judging Kane earlier in the thread (‘scoring international goals that count for something’). Suddenly when judging Messi and Ronaldo, different criteria are being used (‘most people would pick them in their team’). I may live in north London but I have zero affinity for Spurs. And for what it’s worth I think Kane has a long way to go before he can be considered to be anywhere near the same category as Ronaldo or Messi - I hope (for England’s sake) that one day he can be.
  3. Ronaldo scored one goal in four knockout matches at Euro 2016, against Wales (Daniel Sturridge and Jamie Vardy also scored against Wales in that same tournament, but sadly not in the knockout stages). And he hobbled off injured in the final, well before their winning goal. Portugal’s win at Euro 2016 wasn’t as reliant on Ronaldo as some would have you believe. A solid defence and a wise manager were equally as important as Ronaldo’s contribution, particularly in light of the ‘1 goal in 4 knockout games’ stat.
  4. Do you count Messi or Ronaldo as international greats, given that neither of them has ever scored a goal in the knockout stage of a World Cup (and Emile Heskey has more goals in the knockout stage of the World Cup than either of them)? And how about Lewandowski?
  5. Tommy Doherty and Dave Partridge both played against England (for Northern Ireland and Wales respectively) during qualifying for the 2006 World Cup. But as far as I can see they didn’t play against each other when Wales played Northern Ireland. Will continue looking / thinking as I reckon it must have happened at some point (aside from the other examples given above).
  6. Neville was booed at Anfield (England v Uruguay, 2006). Thompson was booed in Gothenburg in 2004. Crouch was booed at Old Trafford a few times around 2005-06. Hargreaves was booed in multiple places.
  7. I’ve heard Gary Neville, Owen Hargreaves, Peter Crouch and Alan Thompson all get booed in an England shirt.
  8. Was a very strange game. England were 2-1 up with 15 minutes to go. Then Ryan Shawcross came on and Zlatan ran riot.
  9. Was at the game and my sense is that it was 100% because of the Sterling thing. As said above, it’s moronic. Gomez joins the list of Crouch, Hargreaves, Ashley Cole, Alan Thompson and Gary Neville in being booed in relatively recent times.
  10. I’ve posted on this subject before and got voted down for criticising the type of manufactured / orchestrated atmosphere that is created at places like Selhurst Park (and, dare I say it, many grounds in continental Europe). To me, atmospheres should ebb and flow in response to what’s happening on the pitch. A man with a megaphone facing away from the pitch, a choreographed display and pyro for the sake of pyro, irrespective of what’s happening on the pitch - sorry, not my bag, although no doubt many will disagree. I’ve seen live football in about 40 different countries. Atmospheres in the UK might not be what they once were, but they aren’t as bad as some would have you believe.
  11. In the interests of balance, Coleman also took Coventry to their lowest finish (at the time) in 45 years. His time at Sunderland was a disaster, and he was fired in China for poor performance. He didn’t really spend enough time in Greece for his stint there to be judged a success or failure. Real Sociedad were 5th in the Spanish second tier when he was fired, so he did OK there, although a newly relegated team with decent resources at that level would probably expect to be challenging more strongly for automatic promotion. Decent early managerial career at Fulham but his managerial record at club level since has been mixed, to say the least.
  12. The risk from Stoke’s perspective is that club management and international management are quite different jobs. Being good at one doesn’t guarantee being good at the other, although it by no means precludes it. O’Neill seems to be a likeable person and he’s done relatively well with NI over the last few years. It will be interesting to see how he does with Stoke.
  13. Man Utd opted out of the FA Cup but it was with the FA’s blessing, as the FA were under the (ultimately flawed) impression that England still had a realistic chance of winning the vote to host the 2006 World Cup. The FA were worried that if Man Utd didn’t go to Brazil, it would lose votes for England within FIFA (although we had barely any votes to lose in the first place). Going back to Liverpool - didn’t they field an ineligible player against MK Dons earlier in the campaign?
  14. The FA have just announced that our allocation will be 752, which represents 82 tickets more than was assumed when they ran the ballot on the basis of the minimum required allocation of 5% of stadium capacity. The cut-off is now 54 caps instead of 56, which is still a crazily high bar.
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