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Your criticism is strongly worded. But while over-reaction and hyperbole are best avoided, I agree with the overall sentiment - two extremely disappointing and worrying performances. Two very boring matches as well. Saw quite a bit of that last season.
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First 45 minutes at Fulham, 31 October 2017. 2-0 up at half-time. Best City football at decent level for close on 40 years. Scored a third in the second-half that was incorrectly disallowed for offside. I note that Tomas Kalas was subbed by Fulham at h-t!
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All right for you to have a go at ‘lefties’ though.
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Yes, 3-1 down at half-time to Orient. Oct 1971. One of my favourite games as well. And, of course, the Portsmouth match, although that was a nervy night towards the end. It was actually a dreadful game.
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I’ve long admired Tom Cairney but he has a serious flaw in his game - he often holds on to the ball too long, which holds up Fulham’s attacking flow and allows defenders time to recover. Happened a number of times on Saturday and let us off the hook. Might sound like a strange criticism but I know top managers think the same.
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At what point do the players have to take some responsibility?
firstdivision replied to Badger08's topic in Football Chat
The players seem to have escaped a lot of the flak for Tuesday, which I find extraordinary. Players practise formations plus they need to be adaptable in the modern game. Get on with it. Show some fight, football intelligence and nous. -
Why should I be ashamed of myself? The first World War was utterly stupid, pointless and avoidable (eg same as Vietnam and plenty of others I could name). That's not denigrating the poor blokes who died in it. They were pawns in a ridiculous power play by politicians and generals. WW1 was not like WW2, although the punitive peace terms the Allies imposed on Germany went some way to create the conditions for Nazism and WW2. Your point about being run by Berlin shows your ignorance of history. Germany's war aim in 1914 was not to invade Britain. By 1916, with the two sides locked in
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Some decent perspective. Last night was abysmal, stunningly so. I could hardly believe what I was watching in the first half. But nearly all sides have nights like that away from home during a season. In the modern era, more fans get to see them because of Sky red button and BCFC TV. I'm not excusing it, just saying it's happened before and will happen again.
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You’re right about the Preston comparison. I thought exactly the same thing at half time.
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To be fair, that would have saved millions of lives, lots of misery and ended the whole pointlessness of it.
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There’s been little comment about the pen. I thought exactly the same thing. What was Baker supposed to do? The bloke runs into him and falls over spectacularly. Easy one to give a home side and refs lower down are happy with an easy life. I mean, who would thought a player was looking for a foul in the box.
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LJ's transfers: ins and outs over his 4 years
firstdivision replied to firstdivision's topic in Football Chat
If you'd said to anyone at the end of the 16-17 season that Bobby Reid would go for £9m a year later, they would have laughed. When LJ described him as a £5m player, people scoffed. LJ, as you know, played him as a striker in 17-18 and he scored 19 league goals (9 more than he'd managed in his whole career up until that point). But that had little to do with the manager actually playing him there? But when the results are poor, that's all the manager's fault. LJ gave Lloyd Kelly his debut in 17-18 and gave him 26 starts as a 20 year old last season in a tough, physical division (completly -
LJ's transfers: ins and outs over his 4 years
firstdivision replied to firstdivision's topic in Football Chat
And just a quick point on sales. Webster and Brownhill are the obvious stand out ‘successes’. But LJ is head coach. It’s his job to develop players. Pretty sure he helped turn Reid into a £9m sale and, I might suggest, he helped develop Kelly too. Those four generated £50m + of those £88m sales I noted earlier. -
LJ's transfers: ins and outs over his 4 years
firstdivision replied to firstdivision's topic in Football Chat
Um, my point was, simply, i wonder what the facts are. I’ve heard things like: ‘but he’s signed 57 players’, ‘he’s sold for millions but he’s spent millions’ etc. My overall conclusion (if you’re interested): LJ is not ‘a clueless muppet who should get out of our club’ as I see written with depressing regularity on social media. He’s part of a team (on and off the field) that has generally moved the club forward over the last four years, however frustrating this season has been at times - 18th, 17th, 11th, 8th, currently 7th in his 5 seasons. Leeds and West Brom were sad affair -
Plenty of debate about how many players LJ's brought in, how many he's sold, how much we've made on transfers, how much we've spent. Thought I'd have a stab at his ledger. I've looked back over the last four years (he joined in Feb 2016). It's not easy to be definitive but my best estimate is that under LJ we've spent around £60m and brought in around £88m in transfer fees. That doesn't include loan fees in or out. The following are permanent players who've been bought or sold or let go during LJ's time (players who've featured in the BCFC first team at any time). 26 players s
