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  1. 1 hour ago, ChippenhamRed said:

    How much would it cost to go to four hours of live music a month at the equivalent professional level? Four hours of theatre? Four hours of another sport?

    It’s a good question and one I ask myself. Best seat in the house at the Royal Shakespeare Company in Stratford costs me £65. Not to every taste I appreciate but for me a couple of hours guaranteed world class entertainment. An afternoon at the Gate in recent years by contrast? A mix of bored to tears and driven up the wall in frustration! Not a lot of entertainment on offer. Fortunately for the club many people’s reasons for buying a ST aren’t rooted in expecting to be entertained by what’s happening on the pitch!

  2. 7 hours ago, eardun said:

    Excellent post. I’m finding the childish name calling/abuse/pettiness is making the forum hard work. There’s even negativity about whose photographs are on season ticket renewal information - is that really that important? 

    I don't go in for the childish name calling. But as for the image...well I'd say that is important. They started with a blank piece of paper when it came to marketing the season tickets. Could have had anything. In the past might have been - and has been - a montage of our promising young players - but they chose a montage of former players - some so former that as a man in my 60s I'm looking at images from my childhood - and a trio of leaders...Alan Dicks, legend but who left the club before I started work, Liam Manning, who may have many qualities we're yet to see as a coach but has zero charisma, and...Brian Tinnion???!!!! I could kind of see him in the players montage but in the role that places him on a par with Manning and Dicks - as a manager - he was an abject failure, one of SL's bigger mistakes. I can't understand what the designers were thinking...unless...

    ...my sense is that the folk running the club honestly think that everyone loves Tins, hence his radio interview. That he represents something of the club's heritage, that he can really speak to the fans. I think that a misjudgement. 'Trust me on Tinnion' is seared in my memory. I don't have anything against Brian Tinnion personally but his reincarnation as a key club figure reminds me of everything bad about the Lansdown years.  

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  3. 3 minutes ago, Supersonic Robin said:

    It's an incredibly strange choice of image.

    7 people in the photo, only one of which is a current first team player. Is it normal to have a big picture of the club's technical director on such a post?

    Surely the club know that Tinnion and Manning are relatively unpopular figures within the fanbase right now, so why make them so prominent in the advert? We seem to have used this as an opportunity to double-down on a couple of unpopular appointments.

    Very odd.

    Completely agree. I'll be renewing but I really didn't want to be reminded of a manager responsible for the bland borefests we've been watching recently, or that one of the club's managerial disasters is lurking in the background. Alan Dicks and the players of the past only serve to remind us how much better things have been. I'm a fan of Zak, but he is a defender, back in the day the marketing was rather more promisingly built around the likes of Nicky Maynard banging in goals...which gets the blood racing slightly more than 'solid at the back'.

    All of which could be dismissed as trivia, but it's not an image that promises much for the future.

     

  4. 11 minutes ago, harvey54 said:

    One of the best away nights. And pie, chips and peas in the Town before the game. And bumping into Scotty Murray after the game and hugging him. 

    The very best away night. I suspect it can't ever be beaten. 6-0 to win promotion. The least Bristol City occasion ever!

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  5. 2 hours ago, luke_bristol said:

    All credit to BBC Bristol, I thought they dropped off a lot when Twentyman left, but they’re slowly improving and making up for his absence, the questions were insightful and probing without being needlessly provocative. 

    Agreed. I thought Richard Hoskin adopted just the right tone, and through his politeness and very gentle persistence seduced Tinnion into saying far more than I would imagine Hoskin expected...examples being the stuff that is feeding this thread - the under 18s lines (which Tinnion must have prepped as that was the main reason he was being interviewed)...the revelation of transfer fees...Manning being a learner...

    At the time I didn't feel this was a PR disaster in the sense that any of this should have come as unexpected at the club. The media team must know Brian Tinnion - they clearly thought it was fine for him to go on a live radio show despite his apparent inability to avoid sharing his unfiltered thoughts. The rubbing of the hands at the prospect of easy matches after the Soton game stood out for me as  an unusually open revelation of how football professionals might be thinking - usually that sort of stuff is so guarded. 

    Presumably the thoughts of honest 'Tins' - 'club legend', '30 years' and all that - were supposed to calm fevered supporters. The conclusion I'd draw is that it wasn't a PR disaster, but worse...this wasn't PR - this was an insight into what the man who runs the football side of the club really thinks. I was grateful to Radio Bristol for the opportunity to hear from the horses mouth exactly how things have been managed and will be in the future.

    It wasn't encouraging.

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  6. I think Hoskin is doing a really good job. He has to work with the club week in and week out so needs to tread carefully. Asking challenging questions in a pleasantly disguised way. As a result Tins pretty open, if occasionally on the defensive. I think we've learned a fair bit - watching players abroad every weekend and expecting this to result in signings being one example. 

    Far from a PR disaster in my view. But doesn't challenge many of the assumptions folk on here have. I'll be there next season, but not over excited by the prospect.

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  7. Just now, REDOXO said:

    I was interested (as is the club) to what extent will the continued management of Mr Manning effect your decision to renew or convince you to buy one. 

    I was saying today that I'm all the more determined not to be driven out by the colourless chap! I'll be renewing mine.

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  8. 5 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

    Going, always do, I missed a few games earlier this season when my wife was unwell, but that’s pretty much the only thing bar the occasional holiday that keeps me away.

    Am I as enthusiastic as ever? Probably not.

    Am I going to renew? Certainly.

    Will be there myself today. About to set off. See you later!

     

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  9. 1 minute ago, Merrick's Marvels said:

    A very Pearson win, without wishing to derail the thread - outplayed but no guts, no glory.

     

    Yep. I'm no tactical whizz but I couldn't see any similarity between that performance - fast breaking, long balls to the wings - and the pedestrian slow build style of the first team.

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  10. 4 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

    (ducks for cover)

    Lee Johnson got injured on the last game of your upper section, the 0-0 vs Watford. I will die on the hill that if he had stayed fit we go up automatically- not because he was a great player, but because that team was greater than the sum of its parts and he was an integral piece. Those results highlight that point starkly.

    No need to duck for cover. I was amongst his bigger critics as a manager but as a player I liked him, thought he helped our midfield keep ticking along. Was a great blow when he was injured.

    I was at all those run in matches, we blew it spectacularly...sadly.

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  11. 3 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

    Nope. The philosophy is nowhere near aligned enough into how Liam wants to play and how Nige wants to play.

    ...and herein lies the problem, surely? What is the Bristol City footballing 'philosophy'? Who explains it?

    Pearson to Manning is in every sense a handbrake turn mid-season. The reasons behind it were poorly communicated and still unclear beyond some 'falling out behind the scenes'. Regardless of results communication remains a major problem. 'Bristol City' has no visible or credible leaders.

    Much of the love for Pearson lay in his no nonsense 'Nige' persona and willingness to tell it as he saw it. He was experienced and confident. He stepped into that 'voice of the club' role with relish. Did it well.

    I was harsh in my assessment of Liam Manning last night. When it comes to explaining what is going on and maintaining morale in an already disgruntled fanbase he doesn't have the experience or personality to carry the responsibility he's being given. But it's not clear who else at the club does. Which is a major problem when things aren't going well.

     

     

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  12. I can't see what Manning is bringing. The players have raised their game in a handful of high profile matches. Which is understandable. Beyond these our record is beginning to look pitiful. The chap seems weak as water. Unless he's a completely different personality in the dressing room he's got zero presence, zero charisma. If his talents are subtle they are well disguised.

    What the club needed when NP left was experience of how to achieve what we're always told is our objective, play-offs and a promotion push. We lack that from top to bottom with the exception of NP's remaining hires. Instead we again we have a chap on work experience, failing.

    Let's not have this drag on for months.

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