Nibor

6 minutes ago, Midlands Robin said:

Quiet weekend for the Sags then:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/54653118

That's a shame for them.  With eight first team players out of action for Stanley, the blue few might have had a chance of a draw.

The Gap will be 21 in October next year I think?

21 years.

On 24/09/2020 at 07:19, 77 punk said:

"hate will make you blind "  that sums up rovers fans

It's more the incessant stroking themselves.

PS whoever put "Walking" in the swear filter, please undo it or just swap it for a starred version.

Good first half, funny what happens when you have some balance and players largely in their comfortable positions.

Lets see if we can keep this up.

20 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8155667/Earths-ozone-layer-HEALING-reduction-damaging-chemicals.html

Any link to this shutdown of the World economy...?

The ozone layer has been getting better since CFCs were banned ~30 years ago hasn't it?

6 minutes ago, Pheasant plucker said:

I can actually believe that.....The stuff's so revolting, I've given it a wide berth for years!

Tonic water originally was used for malaria protection, had far, far more quinine in and tasted far worse.

The quinine type drugs touted as helping limit coronavirus symptoms are (I read somewhere) the equivalent of about 200 modern gin and tonics per dose, so probably more harm than good done there!

Unfortunately the initial evidence for these drugs was anecdotal and the first controlled test results don't look great.

6 minutes ago, Robin-hugh-blind said:

Looks like after some dinner sneezing. The government didn't fancy the self employed back lash. 

Realised, that they needed to do the right thing. Regardless of there rich friends views (all named Nibor) on letting us miss mortgage payments and eat just beans.

Equality across all sectors and working together is what will beat this thing. 

As long as it doesn't inconvenience you too much eh?

5 minutes ago, Robin-hugh-blind said:

Wish we could all be in that position. 

My point is that the government should help us to the same extent it has helped the employed to enable us to stay at home. 

I have said already that staying at home and helping beat this thing is what's best. 

What do you not agree with? 

Those that can't stay at home won't, surely you can see the need for equality here. Doesn't that solve the problem?

All I've ask for . You hairy peen

You have no understanding of proportion.  "Can't" to me means that there is no possible way to do something, for you it means being unwilling to eat beans on toast for a few weeks to save a life.

Nobody's suggested the self employed should get shafted, just that selfish people should not put a couple of red letters ahead of actual human lives. 

3 minutes ago, Robin-hugh-blind said:

So your doing this and your ok with it?

I'm perfectly fine with not earning a penny for the next six months if it's necessary to save lives. 

It'll be difficult but a couple of years from now it won't have made any difference to me.

It will have made a lot of difference to the people not ******* dead though.

2 minutes ago, Robin-hugh-blind said:

 

Your being unbelievably selfish by siding with the view that is unbelievable hardship to the self employed is ok. Just as long as your alright fella. 

Why should we have to suffer more than any other sector. 

Your an every man for them self guy, with no thaught of others

Hope people sneeze in your dinner.  

You are so one eyed you can't see.  You're equating your inability to cope for a few weeks without cash with people dying and you're idiotic enough to talk about selfishness...  

Don't pay your bills for a couple of months, save some lives.  Nothing will really change for you - suffering my hairy ass.

2 minutes ago, Robin-hugh-blind said:

Hardly just inconvenient you p *** r **I c k

This is life changing for the self employed. Many will not get over this.

Your argument should be directed at the government for not giving us the opportunity to stay at home. 

Really?  Who's going to die if you miss a couple of mortgage payments?  You will get over it, those who die won't.  That's unbelievable selfishness.

Stay at home.

3 minutes ago, Robin-hugh-blind said:

I would be more than happy to stay at home. And I encourage any one that can to do so. 

However, if you were looking at not paying bills, mortgage or even having enough money to buy vital supplies im sure you would reluctantly go to work. 

The world is bigger than just you and your presentations. Other people are suffering tonight, perhaps think about others and the position there in ?

I am looking at not paying bills or a mortgage, I booked a payment holiday and took a lump on a credit card to prepare.

What the **** are you on about thinking of others?  Take a look in the mirror pal, you are the people causing this crisis. 

You're choosing to put a bit of inconvenience above other people's safety, unbelievable selfishness.

I really can't believe some people think going to work for three weeks is more important than not helping to spread a deadly virus to people who might die from it.  If you really can't cope with that what were you planning on doing when the recession kicked in?

12 minutes ago, formerly known as ivan said:

Trades are supposed to stop, unless it’s essential work, simple as.

During that time the government will cover 80% of wages for employers to help prevent redundancies.

The job retention scheme is only for businesses with employees, most people on sites are self employed I'd have thought?

1 minute ago, Super said:

Just wanted to check as i had no direct contact with him etc

The virus survives on surfaces for several days and in aerosol form for more than three hours.  I would suggest steering clear of others for a couple of weeks.  You might have the virus and get no symptoms. 

It's not like anyone else will be out having the time of their lives!

4 minutes ago, Super said:

After advice chaps

My GF's daughters boyfriend went to italy 3 weeks ago came back and self isolated for 14 days he went round to there house on fri so had contact with the 3 of them but has since been poorly 111 said it could be sinusitus or corona. My GF and girls are now self isolating but i went round on saturday obviously had no contact with him but do i have to self isolate? My GF and daughters are showing no symptoms. Cant seem to find advice on NHS website

What else would you do other than self isolate?  Why would you take the chance?

24 minutes ago, Redpool said:

In the US. I can get an mri tomorrow 

You would have to wait 12-16 weeks in the UK.

I get injured tomorrow, I can immediately get into see a surgeon and get scheduled.

Current wait time for orthopedic surgery in the UK is 4-6 months

We have zero access to things like HRT & TRT. Our govt won’t financially support things like that

It’s 3-4 week wait to see a freaking regular doctor in this country. 
 

Not so ridiculous...

 

 

In the UK you can have private healthcare and get access to things quickly if you have the money, just the same as the US.

The difference is that if you don't have the money you aren't given a choice limited to death or bankruptcy, you can actually get treated for free without having to ruin your entire family's future.

You get emergency care immediately with no bill.

I think it's a bit premature to give bojo a pass yet.

So far he's announced £300bn of loans to be made by banks with the government only underwriting them (so only on the hook for those not repaid), and about another £10bn of direct aid.  The £30bn of cash injected by VAT is only costing about £1-2bn because it's only a deferral.  There is a lot of smoke and mirrors here, it sounds like a lot but the annual UK budget is about a trillion and I'd estimate they're busting that by about 10-12% and they're spreading that out.  Significant yes but not historic.

What we should just the government on I think are two things:

1) How many lives are saved compared to other countries

2) How well the average family recovers from this compared to the millionaires. 

If we save more people and the recovery pain is felt evenly then I am happy to say well done.

50 minutes ago, Harry said:

Currently near the end of season 2 of El Chapo. 
It’s good, as long as you can get over the terrible dubbing that doesn’t match the subtitles. 
 

Also currently on Better Call Saul. 
Highly recommended. 
 

Recently watched The Witcher. 
Very much enjoyed that and looking forward to series 2. 

Enjoyed all of those.  Narcos and Narcos Mexico in the same vein.  Also I quite liked Queen of the South although it's a bit more of a soap opera.

29 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

So, big question for businesses:

- do I carry on in a very difficult economy and have a loan to try to service afterwards in a difficult economy (vicious circle!!), making profit margins smaller 

- bail out now

This will be a huge decision, and terms of loan not yet known, but ‘attractive’ rates.  It’s a step in the right direction, £330bn sounds great....but it ain’t free money to keep the economy going.

Thats my knee jerk reaction. 

Happy to be educated.

I think if your business is limited liability now is the time to borrow to the hilt and delay any payments to HMRC, worry about it if you get through this intact.  It's about survival not profits at this point. 

Investors I deal with are basically advising hunker down hard now and string it out for as long as you can.

Altered Carbon on Netflix and The Expanse on Amazon for anybody into sci-fi.

49 minutes ago, City oz said:

The sister in-law visited us about 5 weeks ago from the UK. She stayed for about 3 weeks. When here we organized a winery tour which included about 5 wineries and a couple of micro breweries. The trip was a day trip and we were on a mini bus which was full. There was us 3 pomms, 6 x persons from Austria and 2 x Italians. 2 of the girls from Australia were a bit sick. 

2 days after when I got home I started to feel hot/cold and fluey. I went to the quacks and have been on 2 x courses of anti-biotics and still not quite well. I have had this now for over 3 weeks.

it has been confirmed I have a flu virus. I also had the flu jabs this year as well. 

Just sharing this information As the common flu is always around no matter where you are. However if you are run down and in the unlikely hood you do catch the Corona stuff and you already have the flu you will not have much chance of surviving. 

Drives me mad that - why do quacks still give out anti-biotics for symptoms of a virus?  They do nothing for viruses and over prescribing them makes them ineffective against serious bacterial infections.

2 minutes ago, Gakoe said:

So do we know all the facts here or are we just believing any old shit posted on twitter?

You're interested in facts now?!  It was meant to be ironic.

43 minutes ago, Redinthehead said:

 

Embarrassing.

Kick em out.  Just don't send them back here.

2 minutes ago, MarcusX said:

Yep agreed and to be honest at the time I’d probably consider what my partner had as a “bad” cold rather than flu, but it did last much longer than usual.

Mine unfortunately was flu, like you say bed/sofa ridden for 4-5 days before I could even face stepping outside!

didnt realise the flu jab percentage was as low as that

I think it varies a fair bit every year as they have to guess what the strains are and cook up a vaccine that covers the most likely suspects in pretty short order to get it manufactured in time.