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Bold I disagree with. We can't take anything for granted in this Division in the slightest. Politely.

Only just saw this - please put /s next time. Just so I don't look like a bit of a pillock.

You mean actual PL football during an tenure as owner? All for the flak Tan gets - but he's achieved much more at Cardiff than SL has here in half the time.

You cheeky sod. Made I laugh - needed that.

But they like Tinnion. It's become evident over his years as owner that SL prefers people he likes over actual competence. The only time they happened to be both was GJ. Meanwhile Cotts wasn't his appointment.

He's their yes-man. End of story.

I don't mind. More entertaining than what I just watched.

Passion - Gone. Optimism - Gone. Culture - Gone. Feel like sh**, just want Nige back.

Some good news at last - congrats Ivan. If you don't mind I'm going to avoid mentioning football.

He certainly isn't helping. About as flexible with his approach as 4-feet thick concrete.

This is why supporting this club made me a pessimist. Just better for my sanity, to be honest. On a similar vein, Monsieur can't spell can toddle of into the sunset, the snake. Anyone involved in the scheme or the decision to get NP sacked as well. JL for enabling it, etc. That is all. We just want someone competent running the show. Step back and let them get on with it.

Not sure about that. Didn't work for LJ. For me at least. Bullsh** is Bullsh**.

I actually thought his work rate and pace were an asset, and unlike Bell he actually has some proper acceleration to beat his man. He's 17 - this smacks a bit of how Morrell was treated imo, especially when we're low on wingers no the former is out for the season.

Wasn't any issue before Manning with this group.

Fact of the matter is - with the players we have available, Manning's style of play and lack of plan B doesn't make sense for this squad. More the fact I do not believe a few players leaving and coming in are going to fix everything. His style of play only works when your players are (tehcnically) better than the oppositions - similar to So'ton - a style which it should be noted can be very easily found out at this level as long as you have a fit and fast team capable of closing them out of a game. We lack the creativity needed across the pitch to make such a thing work, so we should be focusing on the margins. Being able to mix it up, channels, transition, set pieces. All of the above are what NP was trying to implement, sure it wasn't pretty - he was cucked with the sale of Scott without adequate replacements or reinvestment into the midfield, and an (impact) injury crisis that culminated in a loss at Cardiff where Cornick was up front, a green Joseph James at right-back for his debut, and Sykes at left-back. The hierarchy who had cause. said circumstances then sacked him. Luton showed the blueprint, you don't need creativity as long as the opposition makes mistakes and you can take advantage. Sadly the only part the leadership seem to have realised is you can do it on the cheap - which isn't what they should have taken away from it.

Plymouth, Swansea, Hull (a), Millwall. More, in the league, than under Manning.

Oh 100% agree. Would just have rather they would have gotten another coach in to adjust to NPs system rather than chuck out the book as it were. We're mindnumbing under Manning at times.

They key thing is the bit in bold for me. The safer option for him was to add to the style we already had then integrate his style once he has a preseason. His approach is incredible inflexible for what essential doesn't suite the players we have - and that's down to him and his inexperience as a manager - which was always a possibility.

I've seen some awful takes this year, this may take the bakery, never mind the cake. Some of the anti NP fiction is surreal. No 'suggestion' about being undermined. They had to use the excuse of an injury crisis to sack him ffs.

GJ Ill give you. But equally we're talking about a decision almost twenty years, so not sure how relevant it is to now. Nige is irrelevant as metric in that argument seeming as all the good work has been reverted due to a lack of trust in his own appointment.

Think it's been covered before - but he's never made the right calls, infrastructure (eventually) aside. All of his footballing involvement and decisions have been poor. The main exception were the decisions taken by Dawe who oversaw 2013-2018.

Leicester thought the same. So who knows. But I don't think it's a close and shut case.

If I was JL I'd sack Tinnion, get a proper CEO in - and get Horseman back into the club under Tinns former role ASAP. Then make the overtures to get NP back. Olive branch etc. If that fails - make him a consultant on all footballing decisions off the book going forward.

He doesn't if the run is bad enough. Pearson got a pass due to the diabolical hand he was played with regards to squad culture, Manning inherited the precise opposite.

Sounds about right.