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Not if they are, we are. I instruct adult players to foul players in transition. 100%. Clubs also pay these players fines. If we don't do it, the opponents will and our teams are disadvantaged. Football is not Corinthian. Teams with the money will also give players a little top on their wages for fouling. Cheating has always gone on, but modern football has its new phenom. The finest coaches in Europe instruct their players to target transition, unless anybody thinks that the very best are achieving tactical fouls versus transition at speeds higher than the rest, Pep and Ange we salute you. This will continue to increase without intervention. There is nothing to stop teams using fouling as an out of possession tactic. What gets practiced at the top is mimicked throughout the game.

This is neither silly, or a suggestion. Sin bins are a reality that are used in English football. This was done at the bequest of IFAB. The results of the experiences of using sin bins was an increases in leagues wanting to use sin bins, and now widely leagues and clubs wanting the use of sin bins being made permanent. Leagues and regional are also requesting that refs can use a additional card to improve the communication and identify the sin binning of players.

Yes it is. Stoppages are added on. And if a player is in the sin bin minutes before half time, he cannot start the second half till the ref deems his temporary dismissal has finished.

Got the stats for that? Or is that the view of a handful like the Spurs Manager? The Spurs who are amongst the highest tactical foulers in England, or Arsenal's "Arteta? The man caught on camera imploring players "when there is a transition foul ", his Arsenal are alongside Spurs. Man City are the champions of the tactical foul. The best cheating the best. Tactical fouling is increasing, its increased with possession football. And dissent? Increasing. Where has it decreased? In leagues where sin bins have been trialled.

1. In football the fourth official adds time where they see it is appropriate. 2/3. What have been the outcomes of the four year trial? 4. It is not a minefield, its a simple and straight forward. The blue card sanction would only be applied very narrowly to specific infringements. The referee would apply an impactful blue card to fouls that stop promising attacks, the current sanction of just a yellow card and near meaningless free kick encourages players to take one for the team. The blue card would not include infringements where the red card is a consideration. I

What has been the outcome of sin bins being used in leagues since 2019?

You would sin bin players for all yellow card offences ...You red haired revolutionary you.

? Blue ten minutes in sin bin. Yellow caution. Red sending off. This is as rudimentary as 1,2,3.

Why is it complicated for you to understand? A player and anybody would instantly know that a blue card is for one of only several sanctioned offences. Consistently. Teams and top teams headed by Managers like Klopp and Guardiolas teams will as a tactic routinely foul players to stop promising attacks. This is an accepted part of the game. There is a distinction in the laws between stopping a promising attack and denying clear goal scoring opportunity. The former doesn't have a sanction of a red card, and the latter does.

This is not complicated. Blue ten minutes in sin bin. Yellow caution. Red sending off.

Naismith. The club should have multiple options in key positions. I can't think of a possession system that does not have players with above average passing abilities in key positions. Naismith would be an obvious choice to occupy a fundamental position in CM. The system needs comfortable on the ball and a distributor. Naismith in a 4-2-3-1 as part of the two as a pivot and CDM, or double pivot. 4-3-3 part of the central three as a pivot and CDM and an attacking midfielder.

Thankfully you understood. what I was writing, I was thinking this looks like formation turbo nerd .. Yes I use the term U passing. The CB's are a long way apart and the ball goes up back across and repeat. No pass is pointless, but some have less intent, teams with average players, and City's are solid pros but average will see this passing that lacks penetration, and it is easy to defend against when the opponents lack players that are not good on the ball. Possession football doesn't require average as a keystone skill. Stick an extra player in and the patterns change. Stick an extra player in and the opponents have more challenges to face. Go 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1 there is an overload (frequently) to play into centrally to break lines.

The intent is possession, so I opt for shapes that I think would be more conducive to keeping possession and offering security - 4-2-3-1/4-3-3. In possession with an intent of playing full (full length of pitch), and with an eight, and two in the 4-2-3-1/4-3(2-1!) -3 leaving holding positions in relation to possession and patterns of play it would frequently look different, fluid!

The poster used the word conducive. Are some formations more conducive to keeping possession? I would answer yes.

But formation can be used to attempt to dictate possession by creating numerical superiority. 4-3-3 has an overload v 4-4-2 centrally, so does 4-2-3-1. 3-4-2-1 creates a box midfield and numerical superiority versus a 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1. 3-4-2-1 v 4-4-2 centrally mobs out the centre.

I do not understand your post

Sorry but over 70% of goals in the EPL are not scored from turn overs of possession in the first third.

And its difficult without midfielders who drop in on the half turn, or facing their own goal to play bounce passes, roll it onto the FB's, or turn and play forward. And its difficult without a keeper who doesn't take part in build up play, cant take out 3/4 opposing players and ping a ball into his wide receivers. They are not cannot pass a balls. The players have ability and aptitudes and Liam Manning is attempting to synch those aptitudes. These players can play possession football to a level, its not a catastrophe, the team is at its inception, principles are being intergraded, principles are not normalised and integrated. Performances are? At a level to be expected. Uneven and inconsistent.

I was answering a point the poster made regarding 90% can't do it, and win anything. The point is uneven. Liam Manning is developing and integrating his football into the team. This will take time and will require compromises due to resources (Mr Lansdown). Development is linear. This is stage one. The basics are being established the squad has players who will cope, and players who can't technically, and any squad will have those who won't do. An evaluation after months. Key positions need strengthening. Key positions need strengthening to play the possession football Mr Manning wants. Last nights failure was an expectation, its going to happen, this team is being developed, and has players in key positions that significantly tactically limit its scope. That is not a reason to bin the intent, morph through styles (LJ), get loads of players of differing qualities costing shitloads of money (LJ) its a reason to marginally improve pragmatically elements in the quest to get closer to the coaches vision.

I would question where you are getting your stats from. The top four in the division play forms of possession football. Burnley last season? Another yes.

A point I have made at GK CB and CM the team needs players with key qualities on the ball. The quality is they cant be be average on the ball, they have to be good enough to link up play, play simple quick early reset and switch and at times take possession in tight spaces and keep it. The team needs these leaders and cultural architects to meet the expectations and intent of the model CIty are playing to. And these players are?

What kind?

But this includes? Range. Variety of passes x length. Short and long and multiple surfaces (striking parts of the foot). Considering the team intent, the teams build up play what are the fundamental qualities necessary in the number one? Average ability to distribute the ball, below average or good? Do Max O'Leary qualities make him a suitable player for a possession based team playing positional football?

Prowed punched a horse. On a scale of poor decisions? Poor. Disgust triggers the insula, along with anger and fear. Primitive fight and flight response. Acting with anger, disgust, fear are frequently poor decision making. Its a subconscious highly reactive defensive mechanism. I feel City played with intensity, controlled intensity v West Ham. Intensity that was intelligent.

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