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I am unsure. Is 6526 "nearly a full house?"

Too many passes misplaced, under-hit or over-hit. If you were rating players out of ten I'd struggle to find someone above six.

Blackburn preparations for this match

In recent months we have been often let down by our final ball. It seems the answer is to have the other team do that for us.

2 hours ago, GrahamC said:

You love to see it.

They’re slowly dying.

Reckon they’ll still go ahead with their plans for their main stand this summer?

No, me neither.

What are "plans", and why do you need them for a football stand?

....Asking for a friend

1 minute ago, View from the Dolman said:

Are they still building something special? 

 

"Iconic season" eh Dan?

18 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

 

I guess we all find it hard to sleep on a coach.

If there were no wealthy owners would the "market" just not re-adjust itself in time.

i.e. clubs would eventually end up living within their means and being a bang average championship pro footballer (maybe £10k per week £500K per year) would not pay more than being a surgeon (maybe £100K pewr year)

*big cavbeat here these are googled figures ao could be way off, but the way football pays players is frankly at the point of being gross.

6 minutes ago, Mike Hunt-Hertz said:

Well he would, if he knew what "statistically" meant.

He looked it up online - the analyst team are now researching a dutch player called van der graaf

5 hours ago, 22A said:

Hey Rovers; there'll soon be a ground available at St Andrews!

I fully support them moving to Scotland!!

2 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

And on this, other than the obvious Scott and Semenyo points, any monetary issues will be worsened by the fact that Liam Manning appears to be on a one man mission to destroy the confidence and value of our most saleable asset.

IMO the issue is that it's not just Conway - this time last year fans were often also praising Pring, Tanner, Vyner, and Bell (to a lesser extent). All of these players were likely increasing in value and some were rumoured to be drawing admiring glances from other clubs. It would be hard to argue ANY of these players have increased in value this season, though injuries have palyed a part in this.

Behind all of the players above we could see progress too in OTC, Knight-lebel, Leeson, Kadji, Araoye. It may be a false impression given by the fact that we see fewer academy prospects on the bench and getting minutes, but it feels like the very clear and much talked about "pathway" that existed under the previous regime has been covered over by the weeds.

2 minutes ago, Fordy62 said:

Next season I imagine. But not for good reasons. 

I think that is worry many share.

If Manning is still here next season we need the momentum moving upwards again in the summer.

The chances of us reaching the playoffs and going up are probably 1 in 1000 or lower.

But if a miracle happened and we did go up via the pray offs, can you just imagine this team in the prem next season?? we'd make the Burnley and Sheffield utd of this season look like Real Madrid.

18 minutes ago, Sleepy1968 said:

According to dcfcfans forum 'just been told Max Bird is out for a month'.

We all know how long a month is injurywise for our players ...

It will be great to have him back fit for the start of the 2025/2026 season!

On 06/03/2024 at 21:38, Kodjias Wrist said:

Same shit they always say, “city spent loads and if we spent the same we would do better” well you don’t have a new 40 odd million pound stadium for one so hard to compare.

Also do they forget how much the likes of Derby, Boro, Reading to name a few spent to NOT go up. 

15 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

You would think they would, just had a little look though and still hundreds of tickets left. 

For a club who are apparently desperate to move to a bigger stadium, you'd think they'd sell out every now and then...

These two posts sum up their mindset and the reason the gap is in the 20's. They can easily claim they would "do better" with the same resources we have had.

BUT because they have had crap crowds for 2-3 generations they don't have that kind of money. If their fans actually started turning up at home and selling out their little ground they might progress.

11 hours ago, Dr Balls said:

You have conveniently missed out 2012/13. Peterborough relegated on 54 points, while Wolves came 23rd on 51 points (6th placed Leicester only had 68 points). We had a losing streak of 7 games and of course got relegated too…

That is true. It was not really "convenient", it just it wasn't in the last 10 seasons and it was late when I was compiling the list.

The data source i was using went back as far as 2003. In the period I didn't add to the post (2003-2013) there were maybe another three (?)  "Over fifty points needed for safety" seasons. 

It's more evidence we might need fifty plus points this season; as others have alluded to improved form below us points to a higher total being likely this year. However to dress it up as 50 points is always being relegated is IMO stretching it.

Just to be clear I think we will likely be safe, but we absolutely must pick up our form and get some points soon or the end of the season could be a lot more worrying than I expected  it would have been with NP in charge. I do not like the current trajectory of the club. From what felt positive before, it now feels toxic. If things go south from here blame needs to be laid not with LM but with the executive club management.

1 hour ago, Ziderarmy said:

Over a 46 game seasons that’s 50 points and relegation.

It's certainly not guaranteed relegation, but it is occasionally true that 50 pts will get you relegated -  either way 50 points is definitely too close for comfort.

1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said:

50 will keep you up more often than it would relegate you.

True

8 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Blackburn in 2017 went down with 51 points...

True ignoring Goal difference survival these are the points required to have been safe and clear of 22nd place in the last 10 seasons

2022/23 - 45 pts

2021/22 - 38 pts

2020/21 - 44 pts

2019/20 - 49 pts

2018/19 - 41 pts

2017/18 - 42 pts

2016/17 - 52 pts

2015/16 - 41 pts

2014/15 - 42 pts

2013/14 - 44 pts

Just now, old_eastender said:

stupid foul Williams, lucky to not see Yellow

Hopefully cleared the red mist

19 hours ago, Midred said:

Don't they have hereditary life memberships like at Lords?

I am not sure basing a sales model on the lineage and family tree of gasheads is a good idea.

2 hours ago, RedLionLad said:

"Quit being a cheapskate.
I bet people whinging about it still spend money on sky tv and scratchcards.
Every pound spent goes to the club. This isn’t a charity.
We don’t want fans who want it on the cheap. There’s plenty more who will be happy to pay for entertainment. "

50+ years of (poor) attendance would suggest that is not entirely true

4 hours ago, IdliketoRogerMoore said:

.. 

I've spent years dragging my kid down the mem when he wanted to go down the gate with all his mates instead. The pricing structure has allowed me to do this and now we have a gashead for life.

Poor kid -  maybe he should have just let him go with his mates anyway?

Altogether now  "My old man said be a Rovers fan! - I said......."

2 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

They're up in arms on gas chat about these prices, many refusing to re-new, it's a great read 

Were we not informed by the fewers, this time last year, when the redevelopment idea was first raised, that their rebuilt south stand would be "better than trashton" and "state of the art." Surely the ST price increases just reflect the "increase" in facilities.

Unfortunately for them the stand that has been built is less "state of the art" and more "state of that!".

7 hours ago, Pip King said:

Encouraging that he's already having a go at the fans

 

 

Some points spring to mind

1) "We need you for longer" - Could it possibly be that the self-styled "watch them from the pavements / best fans in the world" were actually just crap last night? 

2) Manager's usually go out of their way to praise fans, especially so travelling fans - so for him to make ANY negative comments to fans, which can turn out risky for a manager's future, he must have felt their support was FAR below expectations

3) He says the shirt "weighs heavily on the players" - he does realise they are Bristol rovers not Man Utd, Tottenham or Arsenal right?  They have exactly zero history so what is weighing on the players minds?

1 hour ago, petehinton said:

Matt Taylor quite spectacular on RB

Can change players or formations but it won’t change the outcomes, players not interesting in going towards the ball, can’t defend their players for the goals they’re conceding

Sounds like he’s had enough already tbh

“Nothing to play for? What about personal pride?”

I'd imagine signing to play for the gas means you have little to none of that left.

1 minute ago, Major Isewater said:

with moustaches ? 

Will Harold Kornikk be starring?