Gert Mare

4 hours ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said:

Good post.  I’d met and talked to Nigel Pearson before he was appointed at City, and have a close friend who is a Leicester City supporter and who absolutely worships Pearson, so I really would have liked to see him succeed.  But the stark fact is that for all Pearson’s good work behind the scenes, the football under him was dull and the results were pretty awful.  I think he was given a good time to turn the results around, but it just wasn’t happening.  I therefore felt that his dismissal was justified when it came - our season was rapidly going nowhere and there was a strong case for a change of regime in order to prepare for 2024/25.

What surprises me most is that there are those who either ignore Pearson’s dreadful record in terms of results; who make excuses for it; or who believe he could have turned it around.

Manning seems to me to have been a very reasonable shout for a new head coach, and needs to be given time to build something that might actually be competitive next season.  In football you move on, and we’ve moved on from Pearson.

Oh dear....no stark facts here.

Pearson was constrained by wages and hardly given any money to improve. He had to work with what he had and was hampered by the fact that one of his key signings was unavailable to him due to an unforseen illness.  Despite also having many other key players on the treatment table he still kept us competitive in most games. If only we had actually kept him and given him some real money to spend in the January transfer window then we might not have ended up in this mess at all! 

Let's not forget, with the right backing he has won promotion out of this division and we were making progress both on and off the field despite the limitations of resources available to him.

Manning was brought in to achieve promotion THIS season. This is the factual reason why Nigel was sacked. He's failing and taking us backwards.

21 hours ago, Harry said:

Re Point 2. I agree. We should be aiming higher this season. We finished on 59 last year and so we’d want improvement. So neither is good enough. 
 

Re point 1, I’m not having that. 
Nige was without Conway for 7 games. A period in which he got 11 points. 
Nige was without Wells for 3 games whilst Liam was without him for 7 games. 
Liam has had Pring missing at times.  Hasn’t had a single minute out of Naismith. Has had Twine out. Has had Sykes out. 
The only major change really is that Nige had Vyner out for 6 or 7 games I think. 
 

Ultimately though, none of that matters. End of the day, current trend would suggest 59 points. The same as it was trending for Nige. 
As I mentioned the other day, we are basically getting the same results overall but just in a slightly different way. 

Does that mean Liam should be under scrutiny. Yes. To an extent. But it certainly doesn’t mean “get rid” like many on here are ridiculously shouting for. 
It basically means we are where we are and neither manager was able to get any more out of it. We’re a 59 point team, whether Nige or Liam is in charge. 
 

And that is purely down to the players we have. 2 managers playing different ways are getting roughly the same results in different ways. We have a 12th place squad of players. That’s where we are. 

So Liam is failing the requirements of him made by the Crayon Boy when appointed?

It's hardly surprising when you dismantle something that was actually beginning to improve and try to start again with someone who won't question the Ayatollah!

The way this season is heading we're gonna be left with the following certainties, NP should not have been sacked, the fans were lied to, Manning is not the right man to take this team to the top end of the Championship, the players aren't as good as Crayon Boy and Tins made out, Crayon Boy and Tins have talked utter bollocks and should be nowhere near the reigns come May and we'll be back to the absolute shit show of a club that Nige inherited.

I ******* knew this would happen. I was fuming when Nige got the bullet and I'm literally foaming at the mouth with anger now.

20 hours ago, Shauntaylor85 said:

Seriously without that West Ham win I do wonder. The league form has been terrible, we look so soft again after Nigel had made us tougher to beat. In fact, Southampton aside where are those great pressing performances v likes of Swansea, Plymouth? We didn’t need to make the change and if they did want top six, go for someone with pedigree to continue the good work!

The last two performances have been a real let down as has the January window. Naismith hit nail on the head, clear as day standards were poor. Standards were always in place with this team under Nige and team. Poor, poor season and we go into March heading nearer bottom 3 than the top six target. Congrats all involved with the worst sacking or manager exit since Danny Wilson (oh hang on!). 

The big difference now is the lack of real man-management skills. All the tactics manuals in the world do not address the psychology aspect.

1 hour ago, TDarwall said:

Pearson was doomed from the start really.  As with Cotterill he's not Steve's cup of tea so it was only ever a matter of time.  Sometimes I think SL can't cope with confrontational characters or it might be he's more comfortable dealing with corporate types that he's built his successful career out of. As many have said, he should have got in the best people he could afford to run the club & got out of their way.

As Brian Clough once said, the Directors need to look after the business side and let those who know about the game i.e the manager get on with managing.

Ego’s got him out after 44 days at Leeds and whilst they continued to go backwards he took a provincial club to league champions and double European Cup winners.

Just because a Chairman is told something he might not like from a manager it is no reason to pull the trigger. It might just backfire, like it did for Leeds. The truth hurts!

JL definitely said top end and promotion this season.

It’s all there in his interview.

Helloooo, Helloooo East-End Aggro, East-End Aggro!

3 minutes ago, BCFCGav said:

This is the key. We cannot forget the lies of the Lansdown’s. They want us to let them off, we shouldn’t. 

We shouldn’t let them off. Integrity and authenticity are essential in business. Let’s not forget, it is business to the Lansdown’s and we’re ‘just customers’.

Accountability is another one, especially at the top where it sits squarely with those who set the strategy.

Let’s see what happens at the end of the season. I’m not prepared to write this season off and wait for the next one. That’s not where the goalposts were set.

We had to make a change when we did to give us the best possible chance THIS season otherwise what would have been the point?

Absolutely Jon. How’s it going?

Seems we’re better when we play the Nige way like we did against Southampton, revert to possession based Manningball and it’s normal strangle the life out of the game dross.

Last night I felt like it was 1978 again

Looking forward to the new series of this…..

Inevitable 

Gary Owers has scared the dog and it’s gone upstairs out of the way

According to RB we’re now 3-1 up 

Just now, Lanterne Rouge said:

Sounding a bit ragged at the back now.

Cue Zak

Just now, Digga69 said:

Only man u at home next up for grabs 

We’re still trying to locate the roof from last time

1 minute ago, cityexile said:

In fairness, starting to sound like we are somewhat now. Or at least trying to.

If we are we should consider putting Zak up front

Time to park the bus for penalties.

3 minutes ago, Harry said:

Roberts has to have his minutes managed. He hasn’t played for 4 months. 
McCrorie has to have his minutes managed. He lost half his pelvis, didn’t play for 8 months. 
Knight runs 57 miles every game. He needs a rest sometimes. 

You realise that the players minutes are managed to the nth degree with all the sports scientists. All 3 were likely told they have 60 minutes today. 
I highly doubt Manning would have wanted to make those changes when he did. 

I mean, are some people so anti Manning that they think his thought process was “we’re playing really well here against a Prem team, we’re on top of the game and looking good. I know what I’ll do, I’ll purposely make us worse by taking off one of my best players and totally change the team shape” ?? 
 

Yes Har.

Apparently Manning was seen wheeling the Tombola back down the tunnel at half time when he went for a slash.

1 minute ago, 38MC said:

You’ve had a gert mare with that joke 

I’ll get me coat  

Just hope Forest over commit in extra time

Just now, cityexile said:

Eh?

Just preparing for extra time

FFS!!

Just now, Curr Avon said:

27,754 attendance.

If I was a Gashead I’d be moving my sock from my foot into my pants