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  1. It will depend on the circumstances, but I would have thought the answer is yes.
  2. Does he talk waffle? Or does he talk like a man who is used to doing multi-million pound deals? He gets a lot of stick for his ‘corporate speak’ but his job is to deal with the corporate side of the football business: buy players for value and sell them for value.
  3. If only he had organised massive concerts, or started selling kits to other clubs, or wanted to build hotels, or developed a unique business model to share overheads between different sports. More of the same please, Sir Steve.
  4. Lloyd Kelly becoming the third academy product in two years to be sold to the Premier League got me thinking about the relative performance and progress of the academy as a whole against the standard of the first team. For many years, our academy products generally struggled to break into our first team and the club failed to manage those who did (Rosenior). Most of our hot prospects ended up playing at League Two and occasionally League One level whilst the first team generally struggled at the top of League One and for a while at the middle and bottom of the Championship (leaving the 07/08 season aside). I’m sure I’m forgetting someone but it feels like Carey was the only one to make it here whilst we have seen a lot of promising youngsters leave with their potential unfulfilled (Brown, Odejayi, Myrie-Williams, Ribeiro, Edwards, Wilson etc). Today, the academy is producing players worth millions to the club who go on to play in the top flight and receive international age group call ups. Much has been made of the fact that over the last five years the first team has gone from being disappointing in League One to Championship contenders with year on year success. But, the academy has been on a far greater trajectory. With Reid and Bryan getting recent top flight experience and Kelly set to join them after he, O’Leary and Vyner have acquitted themselves well at Championship level in addition to those players now targeting a League One loan before returning to compete for places at this level. In addition to those players experiencing success at League Two and Non League level at the start of their careers rather than on their way down. There are also the young players like Semenyo and (I think) Bakinson who haven’t always been at our academy but have come here, improved and are looking higher up the pyramid than the prodigies of previous seasons. If nothing else, it seems the days of having to buy in mediocre players and watch them regress are behind us. The progress on and off the pitch is good to see and who knows, if the first team can keep up with the academy we may well make it to the promised land with ‘some of our own.’
  5. Definitely our choice. WBA kicked off which means we won the toss and chose ends. FIFA are changing the rule after this season so whoever wins the toss can chose to have kick off rather than just the choice of ends as it currently is.
  6. What a blast from the past it is to see our old friend ‘Tony The Till’ getting a mention. He was always good for a laugh in the NLBR glory days. They seem to be getting on just fine without additional revenue streams given the spending spree they’ve been on..!
  7. It was a couple of lads from the BCFC London Supporters FC. I don’t think they enjoyed standing in the cold anymore than you enjoyed watching them!
  8. If anyone wants to play ‘Loyal and Few’ bingo with this press release you’re odds on to get a full house: https://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/news/2018/october/stefan-payne-statement/ In a classic of the ‘Deluded Gappers’ genre, look out for the repeated references to ‘great fanbase’, ‘travelled in great numbers’, ‘great following’, and ‘good number’. There are so many ‘great’s in there it seems like Tony the Tiger has written it! Just to confirm, the official attendance was 446. Great.
  9. I can see the hotel(s) being very popular too. It isn't beyond the realms of possibility that a lot of visiting fans and exiled City fans could be encouraged to stay over after an evening game and then possibly stay for the following day's sports. For example, a few Villa fans might have preferred to stay close to AG after their Friday night game next week than starting their weekend with a lot of driving on a Friday. If weekend packages were on sale for City, B&B and then the Bears on the following Saturday, I could see that selling a few more tickets and generating some extra revenue. I would certainly have been up for it. It is easy to see the attraction for stag dos etc if there is boxing/live music on the same weekend as a City game. This next phase of the Bristol Sport project is very exciting and we might now start to see the real advantages of this setup.
  10. I’ve read the brochure they’ve produced expalining it all. Despite how annoying it is that someone swallowed a thesaurus while writing it, the plan itself is very ambitious and impressive. As an exiled London fan who treks back every week, a hotel and train station would be welcome additions that weren't immediately obvious. The other bit of news tucked away in there that I hadn’t seen elsewhere was that the new stadium has increased hospitality revenues twelvefold. Before the rebuild £250k per year was made from hospitality, now it is a cool £3million. That’s a lot of extra money!
  11. Very fitting that they would use out of date currency after the great ‘Crisp Crisis’ of 2018!
  12. A very good point - I think Kent was expensive. But given we haven’t loaned many in but loaned a lot out I’d be interested to know how it balances. Of course Tammy and Kent cost us more than Bewport paid for McGoalsky but we have 20+ out on loan and must be getting some money in for them whereas we only ever seem to have about 2/3 in at a time. I know Chelsea earn a fortune off all their loans so would be good to know if we cover the cost of our incoming loans with our outgoing loans.
  13. What has his personal tax got to do with the football club? (Hint: nothing, but read on to find out why.) Let’s say he wins the Euromillions this weekend and nets c.£100m, and that so far he has spent c.£200m on City. That doesn’t mean he has only ‘lost’ £100m on City. He has still spent the same amount on us. And he was won money elsewhere regardless of us. Owning the club did not allow him to move to Guernsey. The two are not linked as you suggest. In fact, it is far more likely that shelling out more money on City than every OTIBer will earn in our collective lifetimes (guesstimate) was getting too expensive and he looked to reduce his tax bill so he could carry on funding his hobby. That has meant he had to move away from Bristol and is severely limited wit the number of days he can spend in the UK (not Guernsey). You cannot offset one against the other. I opened this thread thinking it would be an interesting calculation of dividends paid to shareholders, directors’ salaries and other payments made to Landdown or his businesses/family members compared to his investments. For example, we know Wally is charging huge interest to NLBR and getting them to fund his office in London while borrowing at their expense from the bank to fund it all. They’re paying for him to not spend money so he and his family haven’t lost out on those transactions. No matter what the family paid to Higgs, they are better off now. Instead, this thread was making the same tedious point that others have made which is basically ‘Lansdown still has money left, give the club some more.’ Owning BCFC has clearly cost him a huge sum. In order to try and improve things, he has then also bought near enough every sports club in Bristol so that we can reduce overheads and save money. Also, let’s have a look at a different angle. He’s a successful BILLIONAIRE who made all his own money. If he hadn’t invested the time he has spent on City, it’s fair to say he’d have pursued more lucrative business opportunities. His other companies don’t post millions of pounds of loss each year, only us. He already does a lot for us, more than other owners do and more than he needs to do. If you want to criticise him for footballing decisions and the what his investment has achieved, that is different, but don’t say he is being tight and should spend more of his own money. In conclusion, he has lost a huge amount of his own money by spending on us and continues to do so and I’m yet to see that he has taken any significant sums out (the most recent documents at Companies House suggest he converted sums owed to him into equity - meaning the club no longer owes that money back to him). Maybe he has taken more out than he’s put in, but you’ve got nowhere near convincing me he’s done anything other than stump up a phenomenal amount of his own money.
  14. I’m almost certain that Sky piece is written by a City fan who is an occasional poster on here
  15. Criminal law is on certainty and civil law is balance of probabilities. Statute law and the common law cover both criminal and civil law. Criminal law has a higher standard of proof as it is the state alleging one of its own citizens is breached society’s rules and will be tried in a court funded by the state - so the higher threshold protects the accused. I think this and the references to natural justice above miss the point slightly. Our justice system predates CCTV and DNA by centuries and the vast majority of evidence is witness testimony. It is always one person’s word against another’s. Lots of offences take place which aren’t caught on camera. The FA will have considered the two versions of events and determined which was more credible. For all we know, Fam could be saying that there was never an incedent at all, doesn’t know what the two players are on about but knows he would never spit. Or he could be saying that yes he did spit, but not at the player, he was clearing his throat and the wind caught it and it hit one of their players. Or any other story. If the other two witnesses’ accounts corroborated each other and both stood up to scrutiny then it is entirely possible for a panel to conclude that it probably did happen as that account is more believable than Fam’s. The fact is the FA wants to be tough on spitting and rightly so - they’ll discourage people from getting into situations where fans watching may think the player spat at someone even if they didn’t. It’s come this far and the ban has been upheld, there’s a reason for it. Yes it’s a shame for us that Fam is out for so long at the start of the season, it’s annoying and frustrating, but we can’t blame the FA or the law.
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