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1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Have the club released anything formally yet?

But you are one of the City fans with a quirk for anything numerical!

24 minutes ago, Silvio Dante said:

To be fair, and I know you’re not saying it wasn’t publicised, it was on Twitter and the OS.

 

That is ok if one has or uses X which I don't. Was it on club website in another method?

20 minutes ago, Simon bristol said:

Sounds sensible to me, in the old days we would spend millions on players then never play them, bringing him in for not a lot to have a look at him seems like a good idea compared to what happened with engvall, szomdics et al.

What do you mean by "the old days"? If you mean LJ time here then yes.

Apart from that shambles, I don't remember any time from 1950 onwards that we spent lot's of money on transfer fees and didn't play them.

Some like Hugh McImoyle who were not very good here but we sold him on and got John Galley as his replacement. He did quite well here!

7 hours ago, DaveInSA said:

There was an interesting LinkedIn post I came across the other day, which I will summarise as : DATA is making the world more boring.

They cited several examples, but a couple stood out. In the NBA, nearly ALL of the teams play the same way, points are scored from very specific areas of the court and it’s become dull and predictable as a result. The second was the music industry, within a given genre (pop, country etc) the diversity of music has decreased, there is less innovation and music is working to a “formula”.

What does this mean for football. Well, probably something similar isn’t it? Football is becoming dull. I’m sure that there is a multitude of reasons why, but definitely a cause will be the statistics around “most likely methods to score from” - I think that is called xG for or something.

What I’ve seen with my eyes is something completely alien to me at times. It’s structured. Ponderous. Boring. My enjoyment of football comes from chaos, a lack of structure and being able to thrive in the midst of all of this. I like passion. I like both teams going at it.

I like rugby more than football now as a spectacle. 

Agree with you and I confirm that modern football at the top levels, has become rather boring.

So you consider that rugby is more of a spectacle.

Well I have an ST for Bears and they generally try to play a running, passing game. Others like Quins are similar but the two most successful sides of the last decade, Saracens and Exeter have achieved titles and cups with a dull kicking and scrummaging version of rugby.

Bayer Leverkusen, the Leicester City or Blackburn Rovers of Germany Bundesliga. A small club getting a League title against all the giants and possibly unlikely to ever get so close again?

13 hours ago, Kid in the Riot said:

It's ridiculous to expect a player to know for certain whether they are in an offside position, or not, period.

For clarity, where would you draw the line? 

Firstly, I believe that if there is any doubt about the decision, by linesman or VAR, the decision should favour the attacking side. It is, after all, a game that is played to score more goals than the opponents.

Secondly, I would only make a decision, draw the line, with only one part of the body is taken into consideration. The feet! 

VAR seems to me a very negative thing for attacking football and an encouragement for sides to be more negative in approach.

Another suggestion would be that offside, which was introduced in the very early days of football, should be dispensed with now. Defenders would then not be able to move forward to deliberately play an opponent offside. And the entertainment value of a match may be increased with more goals.

Unable to watch or listen to radio but very pleased with a point at Carrow Road which is not one of our best hunting grounds.

2 hours ago, TV Tom said:

Was a wonderful night, we lost the last game of the season at home to Notts County at AG a few days later

The defeat by Notts County was 100% because the team hadn't been sober all week after the Pompey match!

8 hours ago, OliOTIB said:

Finally pulled the trigger after much deliberation - only kidding, reason I thought about not doing it was thanks to the dodgy stick arriving today

Couldnt do much without City, saved my life before, its all I think about during the week, meeting up with old friends to the half time (0%) Thatchers. 
Trust the process Do we fck, we just love the game.

Been privileged enough to do all but 3 away games this year, and every single home game. All I can say is, Thank you grandad, for introducing me to the game we love and thank  you uncle for introducing me to the drink we love.

Never gets old, Cider heads until we die.

 

I blame my Welsh Dad. When I was six, he took me to Eastville, we went home at half time after sliding down the Muller Road end mud bank, Bristol Rugby, City, Cardiff City and Wales v Scotland Rugby. Then in summer, cricket at Nevil Road and Weston SM for Somerset v Glamorgan.

I soon realised that with all three sports, I'd never be alone anywhere in our country and later the same anywhere on this planet. The match might be crap but always someone to talk to.

52 minutes ago, Nuno Gomes said:

Loftus Road!!!!  Who makes this up?  Marginally better that Kenilworth Road and full of prawn sandwich eaters.

 

https://www.888sport.com/blog/football/championship/ranking-best-stadiums-in-the-championship

 

Clearly a QPR supporter so probably prefers dilapidated, out of date grounds rather than modern stadia with good views of all the playing area and plenty of legroom in the seats.

8 hours ago, pillred said:

Ooh! Let me see, The Land of Donkey Rides, fish and chips, and lots of people from the Midlands on holiday?

Birmingham Super Mare!

2 hours ago, Numero Uno said:

It's an uncomfortable truth that what he will have ended up losing annually, once he sells the club, as a percentage of his overall wealth will very likely be similar in many cases to the percentage of their wealth that most fans put into the club in the form of season tickets, merchandising and the like every season. Some of our fans on minimum wage will be putting in (not investing) a far greater percentage of their "wealth".

I don't know about tax breaks but I do know that owning a football club as a billionaire will lead you to meet people and open doors to pursue other interests in your life that are not necessarily quantifiable in simple money terms. I also know that Steve's money will be working very well for him so if he pumps £15m of his own dosh into the club this year he will almost certainly be spending money that is effectively "Investment gain".

It's not about being ungrateful, it's just recognising that a local billionaire has CHOSEN to do something with his money that HE WANTED TO DO, WASN'T FORCED TO DO and ultimately will cost him around the same, in proportion terms, as any hobby that people on this board pursue. The main difference is that in the pursuit of my hobby I'm not able to turn round and say "it's mine"................

As I've said before, if I had Steve's investment nous and was a billionaire, I would 100% be happy to buy the thing off him and waste a couple of hundred million doing something I would love doing.......I don't though. I'm sure quite a few on here would do the same.

I would do likewise. Often dreamt of winning a £million on the lottery and thinking I would give half of it to City to get some players to take us back where we should belong.

2 hours ago, Robbored said:

I heard that a certain Mr Dyson is interested in either buying or heavily investing in Bristol City.

Probably just wild speculation and rumour tho……..

 

I assume he couldn't have anything to do with the Bears as he funds them down the A4.

1 hour ago, Sir Geoff said:

54 years for me and I can honestly say this is the dullest football I have ever witnessed in all that time.

Couldn't agree more. The quality has varied from the dream results coming true in the First Division to a team of mid teenage boys at the bottom of Division Four. In 1982, I did something that Lansdown never has or never will do. I spent the £90 of cash in my savings bank account on shares to keep City in business. And so did around 2,000 others.

I have little respect now for SL as over 25 years he has spent peanuts on City, City Women and Bristol Rugby. When he completely clears his bank account as I did, I'll grant him some respect. He is taking the piss out of us supporters. Not funding the playing staff to give us a better chance of top quality football.

And employing a head coach who is trying to do the impossible; to play the same style and quality as the Man City's, Real Madrid's with Second and Third Division quality playing staff. They're doing their very best but the style of play that Manning is trying to produce is way beyond our players ability. So send Manning back to Man City where he can coach their thirteen year olds!

19 hours ago, pillred said:

Despite all the moaning about Manning I just had a quick look at the last 5 results for every team in the Championship and guess what we are top with 11 points, now tell me honestly if that was our previous manager's record over the last 5 games this forum would be dreaming of better times ahead, it's a results business and you can't say manning at last is not getting them.

So being top over the last five means that one should expect a performance with more confidence against a struggling side like Huddersfield.

So how did we manage to give us supporters, one of the most awful displays that I've seen in a long time?

Backwards and sideways all the time. Boring and not the least bit entertaining.

Is Manning coaching the under 21's now?

1 hour ago, View from the Dolman said:

SL was at the game on Saturday.

Well if he was, perhaps he realises that a significant number of us are sick fed up with the backwards and sideways game plan that is so boring. And if that is the only method that Manning can coach into the squad, we all might as well go up the Downs on a Saturday afternoon for our weekly fix!

7 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

As I said on another thread, it’d be madness if he was and would have serious vibes of Kasey Palmer. We’ve seen what he can do and he’s gone from peripheral in prior games to today being uninterested in putting any work in. 
 

Palmer was signed despite a poor loan spell at great expense because LJ overestimated both Kaseys importance and Lees own ability to get stuff out of him. If you’re charitable, it could be argued that he had the Afobe linkup in mind but that was more happy accident.

It seems to me (and I don’t think LM is LJ as some do), in this case for Lee read Liam and for Kasey read Scott

To reiterate the point, we’re looking at a player who had a fantastic season at a lower level 2 years ago and has not proven himself at this level, in addition to having two injury spells. We’ve seen him for us and not one person thinks he’s a must buy. Even at £2m, with the takeover of Burnley wages, it’s not a cheap deal and I’m not convinced he’s worth that.

Not a deal we should do and would smack of a vanity project based on the evidence to date.

 

Complete agreement.

1 hour ago, Totterdown's Finest said:

 

1 hour ago, BS3_RED said:

No, not the team. The ref. I thought she pretty much got every call correct. 

She was certainly one of the best we have had this season. 

Agreed, very good.

37 minutes ago, pikeysrobins said:

So….why the MASS exodus of fans (a) when Huddersfield scored (b) on 85 mins?? I hate it when fans leave early at the best of times but that was embarrassing today. We have been on a good run of late and I know things are petering out to another season of mid-tableness but hey…fair enough if we’re losing 3-0 or similar! I’d like to know how many City fans saw Nahki’s penalty scored as we fought regardless of performance to get on level terms. 

I have supported City since 1950 and to the best of my memory, I have only left early in all of that time. It was against Sunderland about forty years ago, losing 0-6 in a League Cup game. I'd been working that day from 9 am on the West Country and lived in Shrewsbury, so I left five minutes early to get going before most of the traffic.

As I've said elsewhere that performance today was abysmal. I don't blame the players but Manning's totally negative tactics are awful. I'm pleased we drew but I couldn't face any more and am coming to the conclusion that if he stays here, it won't get any better.

This is nothing to do with the players.

It's the tactics that they are told to play. The "BACKWARDS AND SIDEWAYS" style of play is pathetic. 

I don't like to see us lose but I want City to at least have a go at the other side. When our goalkeeper gets more passes than our attackers, it means that our tactics are negative and will never be the way to make progress and win matches. And don't forget that we were not playing against a Real Madrid, Man City or Liverpool. This was one of the teams that are destined for relegation.

So this match has confirmed that while Manning is still here, BCFC can stick their season ticket where a monkey stores his nuts. After early sixty years of season ticket, I've had enough.

1 hour ago, HengroveReds said:

Wonder if any of these will be broke in the summer. Will never know the true figures, fees from transfermrkt
 

GK - Dan Bentley - approx 1.8mil

RB - Ross McCorie - 2.5mil

CB - Kalas - 7 mil

CB - Nathan Baker 3.8 mil

LB - Jay Dasilva - 2.1 mil

CM - Adam Nagy - 1.8 mil

CM -  Han Noah - 4 mil 

AM - Tomlin - 3.5mil

AM - Kasey Palmer - 4 mil 

ST - Nakhi Wells - 4 mil 

ST - Diedhiou - 5 mil

I understand what you are showing but to get our most expensive signings from all time must take account of financial inflation since.

Best examples I can think of without doing all the maths to prove it would be:-

Paul Cheesley at £30,000

John Galley, can't remember what his fee was but if around £20,000 what a reward we got.

And Tommy Burden, signed from Leeds when he was their captain, for £3,500. We got about nine seasons for a class midfielder.

In short it is not what you pay but what you get for the cost.

I'm pleased that Argyle stuck it up Leicester. 

2 hours ago, Never to the dark side said:

In my opinion I think radio coverage will suffer,would you really want to listen to a match when you could watch it legally?

Who remembers when you could purchase LP's of cup finals on vinyl in the 1970's and 1980's

Then when the video recorder arrived,no one bought the records any more

Season ticket sales could also suffer,sadly.

I listened to football on radio when a little boy and I know it may sound weird to many of you younger ones, but, so long as the commentator is good, it's good to listen. And also if the co commentator is someone like Gary Owers, one gets a rounded view of the game.