Numero Uno

1 minute ago, Nogbad the Bad said:

The moment they sacked the popular saloon manager and appointed a novice barman in his place the last chance saloon lost it's charm and rapidly begun to empty with people contemplating other forms of 'entertainment'.

Many fans will have already decided they are not coming back for another session in a saloon with no atmosphere and where the beer's gone right off.

I still think it'll be in the thousands.

This time next week one of us will be right. No gloating though!!! It will be interesting to see the drop off, that's for sure.

5 minutes ago, FNQ said:

I think the Rotherham keeper came in at around # 32

Must have missed that. Johansen is a bloody good shot stopper mind!! Will be a high demand for him in the Summer I would have thought.

4 minutes ago, Fpcity said:

Maybe they look routine because his positioning is good in the first place and doesn't make camera saves like previous keepers 

It wasn't me who made that comment hence the immature bit in brackets. I said all along he was better "for us" than Bentley but got shouted down on numerous occasions.

4 hours ago, Silvio Dante said:

Killing time in the airport this morning saw the annual list of this was out. Dewsbury-Hall number one, but there was one City player in the list - Step forward Max O’Leary, who has come in at number 40 based on votes from other clubs.

Not only that but the only Goalkeeper in the list. For someone who makes routine saves every week that are over egged by all and sundry on here (I'm being extremely immature I know........) that's some achievement.

1 minute ago, Back of the Dolman said:

I’d imagine the fact they’re publicising it would mean they’re happy.

Last year there were plenty of things coming out with how many City season tickets sold, funnily enough not seen anything like that yet

I think the club know the score. They 100% do read this forum so they will be expecting a large purchase of ST's by this time next week because that's what many have said they will do. The danger is that Jon and the Geordie think that everything is then rosy in the garden and it's a vindication of how they have acted and how they can continue to act. It most certainly isn't and they will need to work very hard next season to get fans onside and prevent a far larger and damaging exodus occurring at that point. They are certainly in the last chance saloon with me, that's for sure.

4 hours ago, redsquirrel said:

at least hes not making it all up now,  tinnion might be but ian gay is only repeating what bt wants him to put out there, exactly as your point above shows

If this is actually true Brian Tinnion needs to look in the mirror and then resign immediately. You couldn't be more amateur if you tried and is certainly not included in the expected "behaviours" of the Technical Director of a Championship Football Club. The fact there also appears to be previous in terms of letting a select one or two on X know the amount we bid for Azaz could lead someone to believe the above is exactly what is happening.

5 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

we are still run terribly by in particular Jon Lansdown and Tinnion.

Condensed version.

2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

 

Which almost makes it feel like the match is to satisfy LM rather than anyone else.

That's one of the things that concerns me. They should name it Russell Martin Syndrome - where a coach has a fixed idea of how to play football and when it's wrong it's still right and the only people who "don't get it" are the players that can't deliver it and the fans who pay to watch it.

Mugs. Punters. What do they know about football? Who have they played for (mind you that goes for our manager tbf!!)? What coaching qualifications do they have? Blah blah blah - you can guarantee that will be heard in Bristol Sport Towers.

The problem with that is when the mugs revolt and say "**** you, I'm not having that, my dough is staying in the old sky rocket"..........then the indulgence suddenly has to stop.

3 hours ago, Sleepy1968 said:

'It's my club.'

Hearing from Steve Lansdown would not do anything for ST renewals.

Agreed.

15 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said:

Too be fair, he could get away with that for the first 3 or 4 seasons? 
 

Different scenario I guess. He had the capital due to a) having a very good recent record and b) taking over from an utter fraud.  

Yes, he did get away with it for a while. As you say his record allowed that to happen. As with traits like that it became tedious at the end. Players notice it when things go a bit wrong.

1 hour ago, Cityboy1954 said:

I agree not for me not impressed with McCrorrie for what we paid i dont know what he offes not as good as Tanner at fullback and not quick enough to bomb down the wings .panic buy .

I think you’ll see a better player next season. Easy to underestimate what he’s been through.

6 hours ago, mozo said:

No one can accuse you of not living up to your name...

If he changed his name to HonestGit he would still be living up to his name…….

2 minutes ago, chinapig said:

Have you noticed though that if we play well it's down to the game plan and if we don't it's down to the players?

Whatever you think of him Gary Johnson was identical in that regard. Was always they and them when we were poor.

3 hours ago, Cov 77 said:

I think the first season ticket deadline is about 10 days off , the same seat renewals and then a move your seat day, a LOT of people will leave it late for two reasons, one is yes wavering , although for some it has become a social thing as well , but also leave it to the latest moment to send them a warning shot , a lot I have spoken to say they will give them one last chance to get it right but numbers will still be down a bit , but agree it would be right to hear from one/ some of them to I guess say at least ok we did not get it totally right but let’s push on and we appreciate you etc , at some stage we all have to go forward or we are really ****** 

Exactly where I am. Unfortunately the person I meet has decided Steve, Jon and Sid can stick their warning shot. Wouldn't go if they gave him a free season ticket...........mixture of health reasons and the appalling way the club is ran by appalling characters (which doesn't entice him to put his health issues to one side).

1 minute ago, BrizzleRed said:

I honestly can’t remember such a half arsed, shambolic, amateur, unqualified bunch running the club before though.  

Nail, head, the, squarely, on, hit. Certainly not since the days when we thought it was sensible to hand out 11 year contracts.......so being kind they are the worst for at least 40 years and by some distance too.

49 minutes ago, Talk Of The Town said:

Watched Bath City yesterday.

i left the game at half time.

The ball spent most of the time 40 feet in the air. Awful long ball football from Bath and Torquay 

Can’t be good for a young players development surely??? 

Better than sitting on the bench for months on end with no hope of getting on. Luckily only one of those two players belongs to us.......................

I won’t quote the post @The turtle but spot on. If football gets any more scientific it will simply go back to the 80’s i.e. **** all bums on seats. For many people there needs to be action on the pitch. People who enjoy a tactical 0-0 are very much in the minority and there certainly ain’t enough of ‘em to pay football’s way, that’s for sure. PowerPoint Binary Ball coaches will end up killing the game.

6 minutes ago, Robbored said:

It has happened at least once before under Manning. On that occasion it was Tanner who at the time was getting flak on here for being ‘negative’.

The negative reaction yesterday may have been because we were losing at the time.

It was 0-0 when it happened. First half.

15 minutes ago, petehinton said:

It’s been a real mess of a season from every angle, when you look at it properly objectively. 
 

- Board to not agree on whether to sack and replace current manager and coaching staff over the summer, before pre-season starts. Dily dally, leave it too late, have to stick with. 
 

- Sell best player after the season starts (I have no real gripe with, Alex wanted to go, was inevitable he was going to). Don’t allow money for ANY replacements. 

- Owner appears on local business podcast in his place of residence to discuss the deal. Allow that to be the only time he’s publicly heard from all year.

- CEO leaves by ‘mutual consent’ after basically flagging he has no idea why he was brought in because the owners son is allowed to do whatever he wants, to the commercial detriment of a club in commercial difficulty. 
 

- Publicly say ‘we don’t actually need a CEO with the new structure’. Appoint someone who’s essentially a good accountant as Group CEO of three sporting clubs. 
 

- Ask manager to resign when sitting 7th (?) in the table. Are shocked he doesn’t want to. Cause him to go nuclear in the press, because no one at the club can string a sentence together when speaking externally. 
 

- Sack relatively popular manager after spirited performance in the middle of an enormous injury crisis

- Realising you’ve massively misread the room, make things even worse and double down on saying the team should be pushing for promotion, trying to look ambitious to get the fans excited. Fans react by saying that’s unrealistic and naive. 
 

- Roll out the Chairman who knows nothing about medical or physical performance, to explain why the most senior and experienced medical professional the club has ever had has also been dismissed. Proceed to pick up more muscle injuries than you had before sacking. 
 

- Say we have a clear playing identity from ‘first team to u11s’ which is front foot, high press, and aggressive. Proceed to appoint a head coach who built his teams to be very methodical, slow in their build up and keeping possession as much as possible. 
 

- Magically make budget available in January that wasn’t available in the summer in trying to bring in an attacking midfielder, key to the head coach’s style of play despite saying the squad is the best we’ve ever had at this level and just needed a better coach to move us on. 
 

- Lose out on number 1 target, so loan in a player for 4 months with no buy option, because you didn’t want to pay the fee that the parent club will probably still demand in the summer. 
 

- Sign a relatively unknown youth prospect with an option to buy. Blame lack of game time in Belgium due to mysterious (or made up?) visa issues. Proceed to not play him. 
 

- Sign 2 players on a permanent, but loan them back to their parent clubs, not strengthening the squad depth or quality in any way. 
 

- Sign a very promising young player from Ireland. Lie & say he is currently doing a 3 month ‘mini pre season’ to hide that he’s injured and can’t train or play. 
 

- Head coach near enough admits he can’t play the way he wants to, and way he was brought in to, with the squad he has. 
 

- In the middle of very poor run of results and performances with ST renewals on the horizon, Technical Director to appear on local radio and disclose confidential information as he can’t answer hard questions. Interview to have corrections added to it when published in local written press. 
 

- In the same poor run, head coach is clearly concerned for his job so out of nowhere implies the squad is weaker than last years, so maybe expectations should be lowered. 
 

- To get people excited for new year, use main striker who Technical Director has publicly admitted has rejected 3 contract offers in pictures and videos for ‘more of this to come next season’ comms. 
 

Have I missed anything?

Which is why, in my view, the Technical Director MUST be sacked whatever the club does. Very little of his comms are shown to possess any degree of truth which for me is a huge red flag and then add his dubious qualifications to say the least to be in the role then I cannot see how his position is tenable. There is no way back for him whatever the club does as far as I’m concerned. You cannot have people in post who are proven to be incorrect pretty much every time they speak publically.

Just now, mozo said:

Tanner is the biggest backwards passer I've ever seen at the club, but he's a bloody good defender so I'll let him off! He mostly did well yesterday, as an aside. 

Only him and Max turned up……..

2 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

Totally.  I’m as desperate as you and the people around you, that we find the angle and try to play forward.  But sometimes it’s right to be risk adverse.

……..agreed. Had we not been so bloody risk averse in previous games that were dismal 1-0 defeats anyway fans would be more understanding when the ball back to Max is the right one. Liam has caused this himself unfortunately!!

15 hours ago, Davefevs said:

Yeah, just go back to Max, it is frustrating, but we saw at Huddersfield (a) what happens when the angle isn’t there (Tanner).

Angles, tactics, whatever. Not many football fans in Bristol want to see us go 75 yards backwards on numerous occasions. I literally sit in front of half a dozen people who moan all game every game about sideways and backwards. Tactics, shape and the like mean nothing to them. They don’t understand it and want to see balls played forward and chances created. Even allowing for tactics, risk, angles etc. I do get where they are coming from to a degree.

This is the problem. The previous examples of going back to Max from OUR corner kick meant that when it was possibly the right thing to do the boos ring out anyway. It’s an unfortunate case of reaping what you have previously sewn.

9 minutes ago, GrahamC said:

As opposed to who?

We’ve loaned Lewis Thomas to Bromley (not exactly sure what’s going on there) & the rest of our keepers are kids.

Be amazed if we don’t sign a far more experienced back up keeper this summer.

I would imagine Lewis Thomas wants to play a few games. You can’t go seasons without playing even as a Nr 3 keeper…….albeit he was on their bench yesterday.

3 minutes ago, Jeez said:

This thread typifies the weirdness of following city.

Everyone is crying out for progress but at same time lots are poo pooing a player like Twine who is arguably the minimum level throughout the squad / 1st 11 you need you win promotion.

Bear in mind that we generally struggle to attract players  (see Azzaz transfer etc)

There’s a chance we can land Twine due to the Manning connection but here the consensus is he’s not good enough for City. 

Who should we go after & why would they sign for us?

As always, depends on the fee. If Bristol City spend £3m plus on a player they have to deliver end of. We don’t have the money to take £3m punts. I wouldn’t judge him solely on yesterday though because they were all below par except Max and Tanner.