Davefevs

According to the rules, yep. Could be Police / SAG involvement in setting that number I guess. Not sure what our capacity is when you take off the top tier of the Lansdown and the netting area in the Atyeo.

They still got Andre Gray ???

I missed the “et al” bit….although I could cover myself and say I read it as El-Abd!!! In terms of: Martin Massengo Bentley Dasilva Moore Kalas Klose Who are the ones that might not be here next season, I reckon you’re talking in the region of £4-5m off the wage bill. All their amortisation will be gone too, leaving us with circa £5m less in costs next season too. So letting them all go reduces our 22/23 costs by £9-10m in 23/24…as a starting point!

Didn’t see this happening. Going back to the old German model! cue pictures of Wagner from X-Factor!

You’d think it’s probably something like £25k p.w (£1.25m) off of the wage costs.

If it makes 10k I’d be surprised. Dunno how many sold, but I’m gonna guess 7-8k???

The OP / Thread Title ?

Okees

I can’t let it be! You want a fixed point, black and white. The best you’re gonna get to a fixed point / black and white ‘date’ in reality is 3 years after he left. That’s the cycle of contracts ending that he arranged and hamstrung us. That’s why the likes of @Numero Unois suggesting summer 2024. I am of a similar opinion as to how that point is worked out. All I’m suggesting is that over-performance by the club (it’s not just a Nige-thing) can drag that timescale back to the left. But it’s not as easy to that. If we were to get relegated you could argue that it will take longer to recover. How long did other “regimes” take to recover from previous ones? Some didn’t, e.g. O’Driscoll never recovered from previous regimes. But he made it a bit easier for those who followed him, didn’t he? It’s not a simple answer, hence why we answered now we did. You just can’t say “if we get on a firm financial footing…”, because if we sell but can’t utilise it (e.g. for FFP reason) we may be financially better off, but have a weaker squad as a result. Is that recovery? FFP runs in 3 year cycles (4 because of covid) so you could argue it runs longer that we suggest. Are you saying you think the Ashton “legacy” is no more and that we’ve had plenty of time to get over his period of time here? If so, then I can’t agree. You want to move on. We still thnk it’s having a considerable impact. But as you asked for a time when we are, a few of us have given you are view. Up to you if you agree. But you asked. We answered.

So the point I responded to was about a leaky defence. One of you moves the goalposts and starts referencing our attack and the other starts talking about points gained and wins. Not you both per se, but this is typical OTIB…you widen the topic scope when it suits, but if I wanted to discuss a broader topic it gets narrowed to suit. Arghhhhh ??? So….in response to Dave’s “can’t fix a leaky defence”, what do you think about our defence of late and the points I made? Then we can go broader. Ta!

That Brexit has been an effing disaster based on conning a proportion of the population with lies!

FWIW, here’s Bents v O’Leary from a “stats” view. Keeper stats are a bit unreliable, but thought I’d share. Top Left: reverse scale on both axis. Max conceding just over 1 goal p90 and also conceding less than his XG (conceded). Much better to Bents. Top Right: Max less shots faced p90 and saving more. Bottom Left: Max making more longer passes p90, but slightly less accurate than Bents Bottom Centre: Max making more short / medium passes p90, but slightly less accurate than Bents Bottom Right: Max making twice as many Aerial Duels* p90 and getting on for twice as many Exits** p90 too. * coming for a cross / aerial ball into the box where directly challenged ** coming for a cross / aerial ball into the box and claiming / punching where not directly challenged

Might’ve been better to say “correct” not “right”, just in case people confused! ?

On a hugely pedantic point, we could have NOT exercised our option, offered him a totally NEW deal, and then entitle ourselves to compo in the summer. Obviously best thing to do was exercise the option, add some power to our side of the deal. Which we did.

Might be misguided but I think we have turned the corner / beginning to turn the corner. It’s possible that my next comment might seem contradictory, but it’s now just individual errors in the main that are costing us points. Structurally we are probably not far off performing to the levels defensively where we at the start of last season, where we were solid in the main. We have to accept the quality level of our players, having no Kalas virtually all season, deprived of Baker, etc. that’s bound to have an impact. We aren’t conceding lots of chances every game (Boro away aside), we aren’t getting overrun by teams. We are pretty sound from set pieces these days. So I see that as a sign of improvement. 14 goals conceded in the last 13 is a marked improvement, 6 in 6 more recently, 3 clean sheets in those 13 games. That’s selective. But let’s see if we can maintain throughout January.

So there you have it MRR, Numero Uno suggests another 18 months.

That was gonna be my next question!

https://twitter.com/jonpalmersport/status/1610305970378252288?s=61&t=LNWgxYJFQU7p_hInXKYYGQ

He won’t be getting his current salary if he’s offered a new deal here!

Ole is a machine!

I’m slacking!

You’d think you would be much more snappy on this!

Yours is a better response though.

It is possible to allow it to work the other way around too. You can give permission to talk / discuss personal terms and then go about agreeing a fee. In some cases doing it that way ensures you are negotiating a fee with a player who actually wants to go.

Yep, collective responsibility.