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“Everyone seems to be beating Leicester” The team on 88 points

100% the former, you just have to look up the road for what it looks like when a side downs tools for the summer early. The signs have been there, it’s just slowly but surely getting more consistent. Give the man credit he deserves, according to this forum he’s been massively under pressure for weeks so presumably he’s fighting for his job. Superb tonight and as I’ve said for a long time, I am genuinely excited for next season and really feel under LM we can have a right good season.

We have been superb tonight

Got to give him time, if we do he will get it right. It’s so clear that it’s there, just need to find that consistency. Add a couple in and I really believe we will have a go next year

Yeboah woeful.

That’s your opinion Dave, he still had a half about squad. He signed up knowing what the task was. He did a good job but that’s it.

BRING HIM BACK IVE BEEN CONVERTED

No mate that’s obviously not the point I’m making. But it’s quite obvious that at some point you’d have to win a few in a row or go on a bit of a run to catch them. Don’t think it’s rocket science to understand.

3 wins in a row was the minimum because we were 2 games behind already. So to have caught the teams in front we would have had to do this. It’s not that difficult to understand mate, you’ve turned it into some sort of barometer. It’s okay if you don’t understand it or don’t want to acknowledge the point.

You’ve literally lied to make a point

We were 15th. Had lost 5 in 7. His ppg this season was 1.29.

That’s fair enough mate but reading this forum at times it’s really hard to tell unfortunately.

Obviously you haven’t read the point I’m making and that’s ok. Im not slating NP for not doing, I’m making the point that whether under NP or LM. We needed to go on a run to chase down the play offs. It’s really not that difficult to understand mate

I totally understand the context mate and as I’ve said always, massively appreciate everything NP had done at the club, albeit that was clearly his remit when he arrived. In fairness, I’m not using 4 points off play offs as a reason he was sacked, I’m more trying to make the point we would never have made play offs under NP because we couldn’t win 3 games in a row. FWIW I thought NP should have been sacked after 3-0 defeat to Birmingham. Doesn’t mean I hated him or wanted him to fail. Personally I felt overall he’d done a decent job. What I find frustrating is that he is seen as some sort of messiah and we were still extremely average. Has manning worked so far? In spells but overall probably a bit disappointing. Will it get better? Depends on your outlook, loads on here are desperate for LM to fail to prove them right about NP. I think it’s clear there is massive potential LM could become a great manager here. Alongside that, it’s also very clear he could be sacked in October. He’s not really being given much of a chance though, that’s on the board absolutely. I still think it comes good under LM, mind you I have become increasingly more sceptical over the last few games.

It’s a fact though mate isn’t it. We haven’t been able to reel off 3 wins or go on a ‘run’ since the LJ years. Being 4 points off play offs when he left effectively is 2 games behind. So you’d have to win 3 in a run to catch up. I am disappointed as I like LM and you can’t hide the fact it’s not gone as planned. But I don’t believe we’d have seen much difference with anyone in charge. We are so inconsistent, what makes me laugh is had we lost to Boro and Saints but beat QPR and Sheffield W, the meltdown wouldn’t be so bad.

Wasn’t beating him with any stick, but making a point around people thinking we were in with a chance of play offs under either of these two it is a fair metric. To reach play offs we would have at some point had to win 3 games in a row. So on the balance of probability we wouldn’t have and wouldn’t reach the play offs.

Pearson 1.29ppg this season Manning 1.21ppg this season. When NP left the club we were in 15th position. Not sure which part of anything I have said is incorrect. But again thanks for your input.

Which stats were incorrect? Think you want to read again you clown.

Thanks for your input Pete. Tosser

The mighty Nige. 1.29ppg Left us in 15th place and hadn’t won 3 games in a row for 3 years. Absolutely destined for the premier league under this man. Cannot believe we got rid of him. Our new gaffer 1.21ppg is so far off of nige. His results are so much worse. Get a grip. Not knocking anything NP did but Jesus Christ he was just as ******* bad.

Zero energy to debate LM v NP Thought this was very interesting from today though.

In fairness I don’t think I said park the bus, we are not good enough for that

In fairness was using it in a broader view than specifically Saturday. I think what the first two pictures show is something we see a lot currently, the need for the ball to go wide, struggling to find the pivot and break lines. Ball then gets recycled back to the CB and repeat the other side (around the dish)

Absolutely mate and I don’t disagree with that, it’s frustrating to watch us against sides just sat in a low block. Difficulty at times for me is that I cannot seeing LM setting us up to pass the ball around at a snails pace and make it easy. I don’t really buy into the “big man” plan B. He and a few players have spoken about being braver and more proactive in the match. I feel a lot is down to this.

But do you not think for a new player to be back in amongst the squad doing the warm up and being part of it would be massive for him? He’s still integrating into the group