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The turtle

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  1. Well that was fun. The good old lull them in with 0 shots on target, let them get too comfy. Football works in funny ways, we could easily still win this, but in that 45 challenging for the playoffs looked rather laughable.
  2. Leeds are showing the levels needed to play this kind of football. And the money required to be very very good at it They've also showed what happens when you aren't clinical. As the end of the half showed, We are still in the game.
  3. Something curious about Spanish football. Often when teams go down; attendances actually go up. It's like a badge of honour. Malaga have been through a pretty depressing time recently. At the weekend, in the 3rd division no less. They played their main rivals B team (another story). This was the scene post game https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2nLPMiI129/?igsh=MTBkczEwZXAyYmJwcA== P.s i love their away kit.
  4. Watford away was the high point, the game where it came together. It's the only game, and if you do want to finish high up the league playing this way , that needs to be the standard. The problem is we are having to look for signs of improvement, data to prove points rather then a long term swing of both playing well and winning matches. Coventry was kind of manning time in a bottle. First half so much promise, i thought played well and made Coventry look bad. 2nd half, for 35 mins, we did nothing, the game became nothing. There are so many periods of games where absolutely nothing happens in the name of control, the stadium home or away just dies the game then has nothing to feed off. passing the ball around in areas where the other team let's you have it is not playing well; it's a mirage. Because as soon as we get to the business end, the creativity/end product has been found wanting (wanting to play football a certain way v utilizing strengths you have; i mean wells and Conway produced results together who knew?) It's not like we are pulling teams ragged either created golden opportunities. More goals seem to come from winning the ball high up the pitch which has been a strength all season, transition counters a strength all season, and crosses. It's not all good, it's not all bad, it's Just different...... And right now it's fair to question what's the point of the different, here today for this season? Because we lack certain players, all season long games have often been boring where little happens then quality moments. (Selling best player and injuries don't help) Now that seems even more extreme. There are long periods of operation control where you could go for a pint and miss nothing, but every so often in a game you get a period of "oh that's decent" but it's too often fleeting. We live in an world where our manager preaches control and and balanced emotions, which if you listen closely he's making a good point, but it causes an emotive response from supporters because football is EMOTION heavy. The game thrives on emotion. Take it away and nobody goes anymore. And then there's the team! They are likable, the effort is there. The will is there. But, to play football this way X2 strikers (as the two we have don't fit this way) Right sided attacking Left sided attacking Attacking midfielder That's a lot of money, because playing this way costs more.
  5. I'm 7th at the mo. I've been as high as 2nd in december, but pulled back a bit in recent weeks.
  6. It's like a chess stalemate at the mo. I'd expect them not only to keep this pace but find many more gears ar some point.
  7. Turtle says, they don't expect clean sheets. Next game... Course it was 0-0 Go me.
  8. Exactly, exactly, exactly! But it even started v west ham. Half the world now thinks we are a battle hardened dirty team, beating up a southern softie - so much so we moved north geographically. Was that the plan? V Watford , to watch most of our danger coming from set pieces and crosses. My first feeling was ok so manning is adding another method in how we attack teams. Good. But then it's like wait, player pathway? All teams playing a certain way? All future coaches at all levels will be hired playing a certain way? Without being in the room during certain conversations! I'm pretty sure it didn't go..... Right guys, so we're all happy with looking most dangerous from set pieces and crosses each game? Excellent. Could it be they think they've hired an ideology, presented an ideology and tried to convince us they are getting an ideology, based on who he was. Whereas actually, they've got someone still learning, who wants his teams to play a certain way but will mix it up if needed (lessons learnt from previous clubs)??? All of a sudden, i can see a world where control is no longer a buzz word for a positive after a lost game.
  9. Because they have potential to be so much more. By wasted potential, they mean they've stopped. Blinded by money of survival. They've settled. This is their peak, the end of the story One day, city will get there. Year 1, survival, year 2 survival. But at some point fans ask, and now? What now? Palace are meh! Don't entertain, don't threaten europe. exist to survive. I mean even Bournemouth want more.
  10. Which is exactly what everyone and anyone could have said, well everyone bar those who made the decision it's normal for most Managers. Yesterday at HT, I felt responded well to going behind. But at half time. If a tad lucky to be level thanks to max in the 2nd half, our best stuff came from corners, set pieces, deliveries into the box. Asking questions of their defence. (What i want to see) But i also don't remember any clear cut chances created from build up football. I didn't feel is was a particularly great game with attacking incisive football, but at the same time it was well above poor. And importantly city were trying to win, as were Watford at the end.
  11. Football is about dreaming. Palace have stopped doing so, operation survival mode. It also doesn't help their main rivals lead around 1000000 categories in how to run a football club. They are who everyone wants to be Brighton fans go to a game knowing; we probably aren't going to keep a clean sheet today, but our team will go for it. They are in the euro hunt. Palace fans are being clear! Simply survival, it's not enough, this is not the dream. Could it bite them? Absolutely! But that's the deal with dreams. But is it really asking so much to go to. Stadium and enjoy the football your team wants to play. I mean fans aren't stupid. They know backs to the will be needed in a season. They know teams have off days! And in terms of palace fans they've done their bit making an atmosphere. How their fans feel, to me it's on the board.
  12. I don't think anything counts on robins TV. What's he going to say? Bif of a damp squid to be honest, expected better, bang average?? You don't realize how much neutral commentators or JP matter until your subjected to robins TV week in week out, and how amazing everything is all day everyday under every manager for 4 years
  13. That's my territory
  14. The ball influences because he catches the top of the ball. It's a very very poor challenge in the modern game. It should have been a red in game. We are fortunate the ref missed it
  15. A yellow? He's lucky it wasn't a red (it reminded me of wolves 2017 red card) You just can't follow through studs up like that any more. He may take the ball first but it was so reckless. He's lucky the referee appears to have missed it, and there was no VAR. In a VAR world that's a red 9.5/10.
  16. One of my favourite commentaries ever tbh. It's epic. As someone said on match day thread. It's an epic version of robins tv (because when city are bad/or west ham good he says so- like the red- and Williams part in it even if was a red)
  17. Fair point. But at least most of that was about the actual player. This thread is a whole different thing. But hey, maybe i should stop reading, not comment, and leave everyone else to it. So yeah fair point.
  18. 48 pages and counting on a loan signing. Ok then.
  19. I once read - many moons ago. When wenger was at arsenal, he mainly focused on defensive set-up, and the transition phases. But when on the ball he had very little input as to what players should do, simply that players should both enjoy and express themselves. His arsenal sides often bad faults, but on the ball they were always so expressive as a result. ....... His teaching of henry for example on making different runs depending on who had the ball was so simple yet fantastic, because henry always made the some runs regardless who was in possession then get annoyed they couldn't play that pass. That one piece of advice changed his career
  20. Henry explains it very well. He wasn't in the game, following management tactics, but he was out of the game He went being proactive, even scored ..... Result= he was subbed .... I think it happens in so many games in all football teams. We get frustrated at players for not doing certain things, but if they did; even if they worked in that moment, they would find themselves out of the side.
  21. You can only show freedom if you are given it. Often, when a lot of coaching is involved, it's about waiting for someone else's trigger movement
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