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  1. It’s down to using a clearly racist word. Stop tying yourself in knots.
  2. Swansea and Cardiff fans are in the main Welsh. The people generally subjected to the word that man used are not in the main from Pakistan. That’s even before you look at the historical use of the word. The ‘clarification’ you are seeking is really not required.
  3. Rather than your continual dancing around the issue and creation of straw man arguments to detract, can you just answer this. Should someone be allowed to say the word this man said in negative terms towards a set of fans in a football stadium?
  4. Well we don’t know because it hasn’t happened. A nonsense strawman argument.
  5. Did Weimann play centrally or on the right wing as he has been recently?
  6. Surely in this case it’s proportional to the amount of coverage the original incident received? The Swansea game video was everywhere afterwards and therefore when the case reaches it’s conclusion it gets the same level of coverage. This is the world we live in. In your other case I don’t know the details so have no clue as to why it wasn’t given the same prominence. But I’m guessing a video wasn’t shared for days after the incident on social media? This victim complex still runs through this thread and though there are odd laws that apply to football fans (drinking in view of the pitch etc.) -in the case in question I still can’t see any reason why anyone would want to be on the side of the defendant - unless they think that going to football matches for a fight is a valiant pursuit.
  7. If he thinks the sentence is unfair I genuinely hope he appeals. Comparing to another violent case is largely irrelevant without reading the full sentencing reports for any previous convictions and more context around the the incident itself. In the one you’ve pulled out there - yes, the sentences appear light but that’s without knowing much of the serious detail behind the incidents. As per my previous post - you will always be punished harder committing a violent act at a place where many families are present rather than outside of a nightclub in the early hours of the morning. I don’t really see any logical reason as to why the setting wouldn’t play a role in the adjudged severity of the crime.
  8. Police arresting people who commit a crime and the courts sentencing people who commit a crime are a waste of taxpayers money? How would you suggest they deter people from violence at football matches instead?
  9. Agreed - the police strategy on the day was clearly wrong but to me that doesn’t make any difference to the severity of the crime. If someone burgles a house while the door is unlocked they are still a criminal regardless of the owner not taking the correct precautions.
  10. This is a proper crime - hence why a judge has sentenced him. Put your (non-existent) straw man away. As I said earlier on in this thread, it’s a shame that the people behave like this at football matches and police time has to be spent on this. That is not the police’s fault - it’s the fault of people who can’t behave themselves.
  11. How are you aware that’s all he did? The offence he pleaded guilty to would normally amount to more than that.
  12. Are there children witnessing the violence at 4am? He is a real criminal, he committed a crime. The continual victim complex from some people on here is tiresome. Football fans do get treated badly by the authorities sometimes but that is due to people like this. The less people that behave like this the less football fans get treated like criminals. If this deters other people from behaving so stupidly then it can only be a good thing in my eyes.
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