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  1. 8 hours ago, View from the Dolman said:

    You've got to love the logic of some of these clowns. 

    Congratulations on Barnsley and Peterborough both managing to somehow finish bottom of the Championship and well behind the worst team in the division without even needing a points deduction. 

     

    9 hours ago, bcfc01 said:

    Deaf ears mate.

    Bloke in the pub last night (gashead) was saying we would have been relegated if not for the points deductions of Reading and Derby. Idiot ignored the fact that we'd have still finished above Barnsley, Peterborough, Reading, Birmingham, Cardiff, Hull, and possibly Derby as well depending on the last games. I pointed that out and his response was "maybe, but City were the worst team in the division".

    I gave up at that point.

    Yeah, most of the season was disappointing, but not as crap as some make out.

    Looking forward to next season already and hopefully seeing Alex Scott develop more.

     

     

    11 hours ago, Pezo said:

    Yeah a bit of sensible logic there - if we weren't so good we might have got relegated. Might as well have said if Peterborough had Fulham's squad they might have got promoted.

     

    12 hours ago, richwwtk said:

    So we would have been relegated if we hadn't got so many points and had a huge injury crisis?  Would it not be better to just say that, on the overall balance of things, we are the 17th best side in the division? Staying up was hardly down to good fortune alone was it? 

     

    11 hours ago, elhombrecito said:

    If it wasn't for the points deductions we'd be eight points, and four positions, clear of relegation:dunno:

    Hi guys.

    You're all missing the point here.
    I'm not saying a ball wouldn't be round if it were a different shape. (Although it really wouldn't.)
    I haven't just plucked random variables to weave my desired narrative.
    It's an opinion based on having watched City since the mid Sixties, and the experience of witnessing  relegation battles far too many times.

    You're all treating Football as some simplistic  Mathematical equation. (You probably think I am too, but it will be clear later I'm not.)
    If that were the case we could just play one match each season, let the statisticians sort out the promotion/relegation places, leaving our Saturdays delightfully free to do the important stuff like vacuum and shop with our partners.

    Experience tells me that,
    1. There is a huge difference between "Flirting" with relegation and being a real contender facing a serious battle.
    2. To survive a real battle, the team usually needs the same qualities as their promotion periods.
    i.e. A Mindset of determination, team spirit, work ethic and an attitude of never giving up until the final whistle. Skill is very useful of course, but not the priority.

    I was in the Dolman late October against Forest.
    Although winning on 90 mins, we lost in added time.
    I don't know where you guys were, but the reaction around me was of resignation, disappointment and/or anger. Definitely not shock or surprise
    We were as shocked as being served an over priced cold pie at a football ground.
    Thankfully we had the end of the previous season to adjust to the new norm.

    Even someone as perfect and wise as myself, is occasionally as guilty as you hoi polloi in initially reflecting on a season as how the last few matches went.
    We're now right at the end of a whole season and it might be argued as coincidence, but only since relegation became almost impossible have we,

    1. Managed back to back home wins.
    2. Beating someone by more than 1 goal.
    3. Managed a few good/decent performances without having a really crap spell.

    Please bear in mind that a few weeks ago, both teams would have been above us had it not been for the deductions. (Please remember previous caveats.)

    So,
    Do I think without points deductions Derby and Reading would be on the same points as now, plus the points deducted? Incredibly unlikely.

    Do I think without their points deductions we'd have been in serious relegation battle? Very Yes.

    Do I think we'd have as many points as we do now if the other teams hadn't had points deducted?Absolutely not.

    Do I think a team that has spent a year(ish) totally lacking belief and drained of confidence, a team that couldn't stand the pressure of a match lasting more than 82 minutes, and panicked like teenagers, (apart from the actual teenagers of course) could win a real relegation battle? Another absolutely not.

    Before I get more flak. whilst others on here had suggested they all should go, I've always considered we have good players. However, recently (a very long term recently) they had managed to hide it really well with a new found mental fragility.)

    So if you really believe that football is Maths, we were fine and I just can't do sums, I'm happy to debate. However, remember with Freedom come Responsibility. Make the effort to read and think about your opinion first before insulting others.

    Also if anyone would care to discuss the actual subject of the thread and my post, that would be cool too. For those that don't remember or didn't notice, it's about Alex Scott and his immediate future.

    p.s. I lied about the Freedom/Responsibility bit. There's no law, I just wish there was.
    p.p.s. The bits that don't make sense are Stella's fault.
    p.p.ps. She's almost as disgusting as Andi's chip.
    Anyway, she's disappeared. Better go to the shop and see if I can find her again.

    @richwwtk I said "an" injury, which in English is singular, not "a huge injury crisis" as you quote me. As we all know, City never get long term injury problems. 
    @Davefevs Help! they're all being nasty to me. Make it stop.
    You're respected on here and few argue with you.
    Please read my previous post and agree with me. (Cash available)

    (OK, you've spotted the Clifton Snowflake that cries when people call him names.)

    Bye, love you all. (or do I?) Got to go, need more alcohol. (or do I?)
     

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  2. 2 hours ago, grifty said:

    I’d have to disagree with this. I was speaking to a work colleague last week whose friend is the uncle of the son of former City player Wayne Andrews.

    This kid is 17 and just signed his first contract with Watford on £9,000 per week.

    We are seeing Scott linked with Spurs, Everton and I think it was Leeds who are all bigger clubs than Watford and will therefore pay more to youth players.

    On top of the signing on fee after a transfer of an optimistic for us £20m, they would pay Scott at least £20,000 per week. He’s probably not on a 5th of that here.

    The reason Scott would stay here is for the game time. He has seen he will play almost every minute of every game and hopefully in a more central role next season if we get a couple of right backs in.

    Long term, playing games will be far more beneficial to his career trajectory and ultimately his bank balance than 1 contract at Spurs where he’d earn more but then never play first team games and not develop to what he can and then end up as potentially a lower league journeyman.

    Hi Grifty.

    I've probably explained it badly, but have a re-read of my post if you have the strength. (I don't.)

    You start with "I’d have to disagree with this." and your last sentence completely agrees with what I was saying, or at least trying to.

    To clarify. 

    I have no doubt his priority is his development as a player.

    Even if it was financial as some suggest, I still see him better off staying.

    You suggest he could get in the region of an extra £16k a week.

    If money's the goal, why agree to that for four years when if you wait a year, you could get four years at an extra £26-35k a week.

    (Figures supplied courtesy of my imagination.)

     

  3. On 28/04/2022 at 18:09, grifty said:

    To be fair he's not going to say that he's looking to jump ship to the prem for all the extra money he'll get is he!

     It would be a different story if he was 25, however, I think he and his advisors are sensible enough to realise he'll probably earn more in the next 2-3 years by staying here for another year.

    What would they be paying for? Is he a Prem. player? No.

    Is he an established Championship player? No.

    He's an inconsistent young player, who has forced himself into a relatively small squad that would have been relegated if it were not for points deductions, and an overperforming front line staying free of serious injury.

    Oh yeah...and very huge bags of talent and potential that they would be prepared to gamble on.

    However, if he carries on developing as he seems to have done over the years, by the latter stages of next season he will be hopefully be a name known for consistently ripping it up in the Championship.

    Lots more clubs interested, lots more money for him and hopefully at least a minimum of another £10m for the club.

    However, he should be destined to be signing huge contracts in the next 4-8 and hopefully more years. To do that he has to develop as a player. He knows that won't happen with the odd run out in the early stages of Cup Competitions.

    Please note, I am not belittling his talent, skill or apparent maturity as a player. Yes, I expect young (actually most) players to be inconsistent, especially when played in unfamiliar positions. I just think it best for all parties concerned if we hang onto him a bit longer.

    Same goes for Antoine.
    Remember the start of the season when great performances were let down by his decision making and shooting? (Basically if he shot it was the wrong decision.)

    Then there was that short but amazing Purple Period that provoked the interest, then a drop off followed by an impressive Hull performance.

    Another season here and he could be the complete article. His best performances even better and his worst 80% of his best I'd happily take.

    Han's situation is different. I don't see he wanting to stay if he's going to be on bench warming duty.

    The End.

     

     

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  4. 11 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

    His distribution , or lack of it, was why Max got his run. Bents' needed to improve and has, had a hand ??️  in a couple of goals in the last couple of games. 

    Not sure about that.

    His distribution was great when he first arrived, always looking to start a quick counter.
    I assumed the constant long punts that were new to him, were either instructions from the manager or pressure from team mates.

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    @DaveFevs.

    I do hope that's correct.

    Whilst some would point out that he agreed to his current contract, to penny pinch with him after his performances have saved us from relegation, would not be motivational.

    He has shown his true value when people actually get the ball to him at the right time, in the right positions. A value I'm sure many clubs would be happy to pay. (Or exceed)

    Especially as I assume Palmer and Wells are on a great deal more with little contribution this season.

    I'm also assuming Contracts don't include a "Not getting Relegated" bonus that allows them all to buy their own Caribbean Island. If I'm wrong, no need to worry and everything is fine.

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  6. 5 hours ago, Harry said:

    With all the talk of Massengo, Scott & Semenyo having potential offers in the summer, I wouldn’t be surprised if Weimann actually has a heck of a lot of interest too. 
    After Mitro & Solanke, he’s the best striker in the championship this season. There will definitely be clubs who are interested. 

    I wasn't worried, as he seems happy here, and at his age I don't see offers big enough coming the club's way, where they foresee a large profit after replacing him. (With Ashton gone at least)

    However, recently I realised there will be other clubs willing to hugely increase his wages in his last good earning years.

    Might not be quite so happy here then on his reduced wages.

    Now I am a bit worried. 

  7. 2 hours ago, Gazred said:

    Haven't checked it myself but i think they said on RTV yesterday that Weimann's shots to goals ratio is:

    The best in the Championship.

    3rd best in England.

    Makes the top 10 across the 4 top European leagues+ Champ.

    Impressive if correct.

    Watching the highlights earlier, what a brilliant lung busting run, right at the end of the game to get on that cross. His energy levels are equally impressive.

    Whilst due credit on here was given for the assist, I did wonder how many would have noticed Andi played a diagonal to Conway from almost the halfway line, yet was still our most forward player when the cross came in.
    That just running around a lot can be useful sometimes.

  8. On 02/03/2022 at 13:13, Sheltons Army said:

    Brighton have produced a third blue/ yellow kit , the sales of which will all go to aid Ukraine refugees etc

    They a will be wearing it on Saturday and sales already hot

    Good on them 

    My understanding is that it's their existing 3rd kit not a new one, however, as you say, future sales proceeds will be donated.

    Southampton are looking at similar with theirs.

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