Boring Sag

Truly curious what a lot of you think. Martin has now scored 15 in 20 starts (25 games played), a goal every 120 minutes. Meanwhile Clarke-Harris has only 6 goals in 14 starts (24 games played for Peterborough). Do people think that Rovers' huge oopsie moment at the end of the August window might have ended up being very favourable (Martin outperforming JCH and signing for free, wouldn't have happened if JCH had signed and saved iirc £750k), or do you think that it's a lot more complex than that (Martin performing well now but overall play iffy, 35 years old so we might rely on him next season and he might not perform, JCH's poor performances hugely impacted by having to stay and big confidence shot etc.)

20 year old homegrown lad from Bristol drops two great performances in goal, is that really “celebrating having a goalkeeper today who is their own player”?

5 limit in match day squad. We have 6 loans. Max you can have is 8, 4 from one club. We had 5 earlier in the season but the two midfielders went back to respective clubs, one of which has now gone to Exeter on loan. We now have a goalkeeper, two CBs, two midfielders and a LB/LW on loan. Main difference is we now have an extra CB on loan

This is insane, as is the photo. If it is the same person it’s odd because I’m sure he got criticism before, so is he doing this to own the lefties if so?

Why so cranky? No Christmas spirit?

Oh for sure, hell, we looked fairly good the first couple games under Tisdale! I don't think that this is any indication we're going to be in the playoff-race or anything, I mean maybe if we'd have beaten Blackpool away I'd be buying into the hype more.

You don't think that if in the next 3 games City played and beat both Leicester and Ipswich the fans' reaction would be "eh, whatever, who cares?" Of course it wouldn't. It's not a trophy but it's a relatively good achievement for us. As for the 2012-13 season, I do think it matters that Rovers aren't dead-last. Shock horror but I don't believe Rovers fans should be equally happy with beating the top two teams in the league once if that was the only two wins of the entire season and we finished on 6 points. Again I didn't say we were in for a promotion charge, but I don't think it's ridiculous Rovers fans are getting their hopes up given that we seem to have demonstrated we're able to beat the best teams in this league. Frankly, we're too inconsistent to go up. Also it's not a boast, we can look objectively and say if X team did Y thing for the first time in a long time and Y is a good thing than that's fairly impressive. I don't care to boast, I was just replying to people who were saying it wasn't impressive or noteworthy at all I don't judge City and Rovers by the same standard. Nor should you.

Hey listen I comment in here when I read something I disagree with. When we lose we get made fun of and I agree with all that is said! So I tend to reply when we've done something fairly well and it's downplayed or we're told we're completely unreasonable to be happy in any way. As for trophies, it's not like either of us are stacked in that category, minus the Pizza cup. 3 points are 3 points but I don't think it's unreasonable for Rovers to beat the top 2 teams at Christmas in a relatively short-time period and be happy about it. As for Bristol City, some people feel this way; and a lot of you seem to. The reason why I said Championship and not League 1, which would be an equivalent achievement; is that I don't think City and Rovers are on the same level in basically any department. So why would I judge them by the same standards? Should Bournemouth and Newcastle fans have been equally happy to be promoted to the Premier League? Is that an equally impressive achievement? No, of course not. As for the league table, I said nothing of the league table except the fact I said I don't think we'll make playoffs.

And that is impressive, although that is almost 47 years ago, so it's not the same as a relatively successful feat from a week ago.

In the last 4 games Rovers have won 3 times, two of which were against the top 2. I'm not going to be the one to overhype us, I think we'll finish somewhere in the 8th-12th range, but here's a question. If winning a league game each against the top 2 (let's presume Portsmouth and Bolton finish top 2 for now, but right now it's comparative) isn't particularly noteworthy, when was the last time City did it in the Championship (hint: or equivalent before...)

Yeah that’s a weird one. Failed at Middlesbrough and Watford after gets sacked there and gets the same job? Weird appointment. Reminds me of when Dean Smith failed at Norwich then got the Leicester job for some reason. Saw he did an interview with Piers Morgan, but I couldn’t actually tell from the clips where they actually disagreed? They seemed to both be making anti-women commentator nonsense points

Yeah I generally agree. I like certain managers in the lower leagues so when they get better jobs I'm quite happy about it. I liked Ian Evatt when he was at Barrow for instance, and was a long-time fan of Chris Wilder, but he's gone off the deep end it seems. I also liked Russell Martin, and for everything I've said about Manning, he did significantly outperform Martin at MK Dons in his first season.

I’d rather be a bit boring than be so angry and upset about a person on the internet that I insult them unprovoked because they like a different set of 11 men in shorts chasing around a ball with their feet and disagree with them on their opinions, though I guess with no justification as to why :laugh:

I don't know whether you are purposefully or unintentionally misrepresenting me, but I'll presume the latter. I never said I could be proved right. I said the statements I made can neither be proven right nor wrong. Because I'm not talking about how they WILL end up, I'm talking about their CVs. It's not something you can prove wrong by Manning do well. For instance, who looks like the more promising player; Endrick or Alex Scott? The answer to me is definitely Endrick. Now, imagine Endrick in a game tomorrow has a career-ending injury, he never plays football again. Does that mean I was wrong? No, promise doesn't always lead to actualised potential, Ravel Morrison demonstrated that. But Endrick would have still been the more promising player. Similar here, Manning could be the next Howe, I'm purely making statements about their CV. You can disagree with me critiquing Manning's CV, but Manning doing well wouldn't mean I was wrong. Just like Manning doing badly wouldn't prove me right.

You've highlighted the first part, where I'm talking about Manning, and the second part, where I'm referring to Robinson. I didn't say Rovers could have got Manning.