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On 08/06/2023 at 15:33, Davefevs said:

 

Is the dark-haired coach Kenny Phillips who did some scouting for the City back in the 70s?

I’m keen to point out that my offer of a wager some weeks ago still stands. 
Wrexham to play in the Premier league before. Bristol City

20 hours ago, pillred said:

All the Mehmeti haters, what now?

Come on, a win is a win but the Mehmeti shot was pretty poor and the keeper had a shocker. 

23 minutes ago, Atyeo's lift said:

 Good omens today - spotted a robin in the garden vigorously defending his territory and then a box  of robin logo iced biscuits arrived in the post. I see a 0-2 defeat on the cards.

I see your robin and raise you a black cat in the garden wars

1 minute ago, Superjack said:

I propose that Brixham do.

Proposal currently under (serious) consideration

4 minutes ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Don't think I've seen one post saying he should be sacked, yet. 

Everyone here wants Manning to succeed, because if he does, it means we will succeed. However it is likely he'll bugger off at the first opportunity. 

Right now people are pointing out the mistakes Manning has made in the hope that he will learn from them. 

A few weeks ago I posted about my concerns of over loading the players. In his last two interviews he himself admits that may have happened. 

Overloaded them!! What, has he asked them to read Principia Mathematica?

Do me a favour

Any takers for a bet: I propose that Wrexham have a better chance of making the Premier league than Bristol City

The training for professional football is brutal isn’t it?

Those skipping groin looseners  are a killer!

I agree with all the considered points you make in your first post but I’m arguing for a sense of proportion at the same time as striving for success. If we are hysterical about promotion it hardly leaves any room to actually enjoy the games when we play well and critique sensibly when we fall short. 
when you say ‘what’s the point of following a club with no chance of success’ I refer you to the loyal fans from 1913 and Billy Wedlocks followers to 1976 and those of us who were ecstatic at promotion. That’s a lot of fans who stuck by the club in those years. 

I agree that we should strive for success but do you have a solution. Would you like to be owned by a foreign repressive regime with human rights abuses. Why has no one come in to buy the club.? 

Thanks for this excellent compilation as I wondered how he’d got on.

Looks like a young Gascoigne. Can’t say more than that!

I felt the same when Keith Fear scored against Leeds in the FA cup

Against the background of Premier league football and billions of investment in the elite game, our fans yearning for promotion and a seat at the top table seems nothing more than a fantasy. 
it got me thinking about the late 1960s when I first watched the City with Mike Gibson, Jack Connor, Chris Crowe, John Galley etc and the fans enjoyed the ups and downs of second division football. We’d have good days and not so good days and we’d catch a glimpse of former greats like Johnny Haynes at the back end of their careers but I don’t remember any hysteria about playing  in the first division: nothing like the almost rabid, frothing at the mouth you get on the forum. We wanted success for the club and we wanted them to play good football. Of course, things changed in the mid-seventies and there was a growing excitement about our prospects culminating in promotion. The boys were brilliant in staying up for as long as they did with Gerry Gow as our driving force. The injury to Paul Cheesely was heart breaking for everyone. But my point is that the promotion seems now almost as unlikely as the Leicester City Premier league title. The subsequent demotions and the financial catastrophe that followed really sending the club into near  fatal tail spin. I suppose  those with better memories and more knowledge will be able to explain the ‘76 success and the set of circumstances that produced the promotion in the hope of using the same blue print. For me, the prospect is light years away. We have a billionaire owner who has given the club millions regardless of peoples opinions. What will it take to transform our fortunes? Let’s not forget that the second city of the country, Birmingham have fared little better. 

Im starting to feel sorry for the promoted clubs like Luton and Burnley. Surely, our fate would be the same even in the unlikely event of promotion. 
 

(As Ian said on the FBC podcast, it’s the same churn of failed managers recycling failure as they go on their merry way from job to job.

my suggestion would  be to drop the ludicrous idea of imminent promotion and get behind the players  trying their best for a club riven with injuries. 
 

We are not Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and Manchester City. We all watch them play on Sky and marvel at their pace and skill. The  Chamionship is not on the level. It’s like comparing Usain Bolt with a club runner from Westbury Harriers

Just watched Sky highlights. We didn’t have one.

5 hours ago, Grey Fox said:

I was a the met h, think the programme is living in a box in the attic. Chris Garland was on the bench but didn’t play.

Yes. England V Wales 1969 at Ashton Gate . Definitive

12 hours ago, Sir Geoff said:

Yes he was

Dear Sir Geoff, Tricks memory playing. The following is from an owner of the 1972  U23 England v GDR programme at AG. You are right. Rod Thomas was not the captain of the GDR

‘Hi - thanks for getting in touch - I wonder which side of the debate you are on??!

24 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

There was another England game during the early 70's at Ashton Gate. Not at home so can't check but I got Kevin Keegan, Malcolm Macdonald, Alf Ramsey, Harold Sheperdson autographs amongst others in my autograph book. Anyone remember the occasion?

I think you will find Alf was born in 1920. He would have been 52 and was not an U23

12 minutes ago, Sir Geoff said:

Why would Rod Thomas be captaining the German Democratic Republic 

Haha This is AG in 1969. What surprises me is how small David Nish is. Remember him as being taller/bigger

met a bloke on holiday from Derby who worshipped Nish as a legend

3 minutes ago, 1960maaan said:

I know I went to one U23's game, early 70s and Garland was rumoured to be playing.

He didn't and it was a dull 0-0, 

This site be of interest.

http://www.englandfootballonline.com/matchrsl/MatchRslTmU23.html

 

Would CG have been too old to play in this one( or is one player allowed per team?)

That could be the GDR game in ‘72 

I’ve also been able to find the U23 England v Bulgaria programme online. The odd thing is that CG got his only cap at Home Park but doesn’t appear in the squad as printed. PS the point about the ‘crowd booster’ is fairly conclusive as the squad features Norman Piper of Plymouth Argyle. Wonder if Alf gave him a run !?

16 minutes ago, Lanterne Rouge said:

Am I the only one who dreads opening a thread titled like this for fear of what I might read?

Sorry about that. Take your point. Have changed title. PS didn’t I back you EW in the National once upon a time.

27 minutes ago, miser said:

Think it was ealier. 1960s. Sure our player (Garland) selected to boost the crowd.

Hi Thank you for this. I went back to England v Wales at AG in 1969 and found a programme for sale online. Thankfully it had a pic of the line ups and you are right CG was a sub. My memory of wanting Chris to come on was stronger than the date and opponents. This was the game I attended with my Dad in the old Kids enclosure below the Grand stand. If it did boost crowd, Alf didn’t give him a run out. Old curmudgeon.

Is my memory playing tricks? I was a kid at the U23 England v GDR match at AG in 1972. My question is: was Chris Garland on the bench? My memory is that Chris was an unused sub, much to our disappointment at the time. Can anyone confirm? 

Huddersfield to score 2/3 from corners/set pieces.