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1 hour ago, Alessandro said:

There’s a few on here using that win last night as justification to say they’re vindicated for their strong support of Manning - and sticking the knife those who’ve, rightly ImO, been critical of an otherwise underwhelming, and at times little streaky, reign under Manning so far. 

As I said in another thread, the last 4 ‘results’ have been very good - but in those 4 games we’ve been the beneficiary of some poor finishing (Vardy) and top keeping from Max (v Sunderland in an otherwise pretty poor showing) and we were literally gift wrapped 4 goals last night.

So all I’m saying is, within that nice run, it’s not all been perfect sailing - we’ve ridden our luck at times and despite the clean sheets we’ve continued to give away big chances, statistically that will catch us up.

That’s not taking away however from a big improvement from Manning, playing a footballing style that is better suited to the squad finally and more akin to what was suggested the club wanted when they appointed him. Hopefully that means he has adapted (voluntarily or otherwise) which would be very good news. 

Big improvement but as I say, I’m not celebrating anything yet….long way to go. 
 

EDIT - I dare say the results uptick have also been helped in part by the return of a player we don’t have next season too…

Manning himself always says don't get over excited by the wins & don't get to down about the losses.

If only some of our fans would actually listen to him & let him get on with his job.!

It's too early to judge him properly. He needs a summer window & a pre-season with the squad.

Of course, it can take much linger than that still - but it will be interesting to see where we are around Christmas time, half way through next season & a good year under his charge.

It looks like this season should see an improved points total on any season since LJ was here, so that's progress, albeit slow & steady.

36 minutes ago, JBFC II said:

We've scored more goals in our last 100 minutes than they have in their last 950...

 

We scored more in injury time tonight than they have in the last 7 games..!

22 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

Yes it’s nice win but you’re absolutely right.

I don’t think you can understate how poor Blackburn were tonight.

If a team wins 5-0 either you’re meeting a hugely talented attacking team or the losing team have capitulated.

Given the fact we’ve only won a game by more than 2 goals 3 times all season and only 8 teams in the league have scored less goals than us…

Add in Blackburn’s current bottom 6 form and the fact they have the 2nd leakiest defence in the league.

Suggests more of the latter.

A nice win yes, credit for that - but IMo people probably shouldn’t get too carried away though on the back of tonight…

 

Aren't most people basing in on the last 4 (certainly) possibly 7 games.? Not just tonight.

After the Cardiff game I was properly pissed off at how dreadful we were.

Swansea, I actually think was deliberately cautious to stop the rot.

Ipswich - at least we competed.

West Brom - wasn't great, but now looks like a blip in the run, rather than reverting to type.

What makes you think anyone is basing it on 1 game, when we haven't conceded a goal in 4 games & taken 10 points from the last 12 available..?

2 hours ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

Never forget.

Gasheads ladies and gentlemen…

Of all the clubs that I can remember being in the Championship over the last few decades, the only ones that Rovers could possibly claim to be any bigger than would be Yeovil, Burton & possibly Wycombe.

1 minute ago, PHILINFRANCE said:

Hopefully, at the expense of Forest.

I'm hoping Everton go down, finally..!

On 21/03/2024 at 21:40, W-S-M Seagull said:

Of course clubs are going to cheat when the benefits of cheating far outweigh the punishment. 

There needs to be solid harsh penalties so that the punishment is worse than the benefits. 

In my opinion the punishment should be very severe. For example if a club cheats to get promoted then make their promotion void and take away any parachute payments. 

If a club chests to qualify for Europe, make them forfeit their European place. 

If a club just about stays up due to cheating, relegate them and deny them parachute payments. 

Yes these options are extreme but whilst there is 100s of millions on the line, clubs will take the risk so the consequences need to be extreme to act as a deterrent. A few poxy points deducted just makes these clubs laugh at us all. 

Ultimately this cheating is undermining the sporting integrity of our leagues and that integrity needs to be maintained at all costs. 

I'd argue that your suggestions are nowhere near harsh enough.

It's all very well taking away their benefits from cheating - but that's not even a punishment for the cheating itself.

It needs a clear & simple rule, along the lines of ANYONE found guilty of blatent & avoidable financial cheating should be demoted by 2 divisions.

They won't have the balls to chuck Man City down to League 1 - they are too valuable an asset to the Premier league. But I bet they'd have little hesitation in using it as a way of getting rid of the likes of Luton - who ironically have suffered their financial plight in recent years & still battled their way back to the top table.

I've always disliked Luton - but I love how they have battled this season & now I really hope they stay up for another season.

It's taken them 17 years for their prices to be about average..!

8 hours ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

If someone has had a ST for 30 years they've probably been to a few away games too. 

At the moment the current system is such that someone can buy a ST for the first time this summer, go to a few away games and then they get priority over those that have been going for 30 plus years or whatever. 

Something about that doesn't sit right with me. 

If you are a season ticket holder you get priority on that seat for every home game.

Why should anyone get more priority for away tickets over those who travel away regularly throughout the season.?

7 hours ago, Back of the Dolman said:

I’d buy a Man United season ticket for £100 and then every match I’d sell my seat and make a tidy profit !

That would definitely be value for money !

Kind of negates the point I was trying to make & way too busy to chase around selling an odd match ticket so a bunch of tossers who support Man Utd.!

I'd rather spend the £100 on the satisfaction that 1 of the glory boys that wants to be there couldn't be & just leave the seat empty every game.!

9 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

It’s called value for money. What’s there not to understand?

You wouldn’t pay the same price for a 20 year old fiesta as you would a brand new Mercedes…

He's not buying a car though, which has a tangible market value.

Supporting a football team is entirely different.

I wouldn't buy a Rovers or a Man Utd season ticket if someone offered me one for £100.

I suppose I never buy my City season ticket based on any perceived "value for money" they are what they are & I buy one to "own" my seat & be part of the journey. 

I'd probably agree on principle, if there was a hefty increase for no good reason & make a purchase decision accordingly - but I'd never not renew because we'd lost a few games.

Yesterday was particularly frustrating, I agree. 

Not renewing because you don't want to/can't go to matches makes sense. Not renewing because you can't afford it also makes sense.

But not renewing unless they reduce the prices (never going to happen) doesn't make any sense to me. 

4 hours ago, formerly known as ivan said:

My decision has been made easy given the change in my family situation. I will not be renewing.

However, taking that out the equation I can safely say I would not have been renewing next season. We are supposed to be paying for entertainment, we aren’t being entertained. I wouldn’t pay an increased price, I wouldn’t pay at the same price as I have no belief in the club anymore. The only way I would have been open to renewing would have been with a significant reduction which let’s be honest, wouldn’t happen even if we were in league 1 next season.

You wouldn't renew because of the lack of entertainment - but you might if it was a bit cheaper..?

That makes no sense atall.

6 minutes ago, TV Tom said:

They're up in arms on gas chat about these prices, many refusing to re-new, it's a great read 

I don't go on Gas chat - but if someone who does can post our prices when they are released....

I get that they have a smaller capacity & need to maximise revenue per "seat" - but the prices they are charging are outrageous in most cases, compared to ours.

No wonder (regardless of level of football that you'd be watching) that our support base is growing & we are attracting the new generation of support.

Plenty like to slag off those in charge of our club - but it's a stark contrast between us & them, in how well things are going, off the field, & I'd suspect that Rovers announcing their ST prices will actually have just helped increase the number that we sell ourselves..! 

1 hour ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

Mate I've watched so many Bristol City games where we've been 2 nil down and we havent done as you say. 

I've watched even more football games in general where that hasn't happened. 

The changes we made invited the pressure. 

Obviously not every game pans out the same way.

If a team is 2-0 down they have nothing to loose.

If they have quality, they are bound to go for it & cause problems.

Sitting back to contain them (after a gruelling recent fixture list) is one option, we did it & we won.

If we'd have carried on attacking & been caught out then that would have been wrong.

Getting the result is what mattered & we showed how good we can be to get the game won in the first half. 

1 minute ago, Peter O Hanraha-hanrahan said:

If you’re counting nipples.

I'm just going by Flash scores. 

I han't even considered their babestation subscription. 

People were quick enough to complain about not having won (league) this year, despite arguably being better team in 4 games against Premier league opposition.

Leeds & Preston games were disappointing, of course - but bar those - I think we look so much better than we did earlier in the season (yes, under NP, for those who feel rhe need to make the comparrison)

Way to early to judge LM yet - but I'm definitely encouraged more than anything else, so far. 

1 minute ago, W-S-M Seagull said:

We had no threat going forward second half. 

Whilst it paid off today there will be many times where limiting our attacking threat wont! 

I don't understand why there is this common belief that its a given Boro were always going to come out and play better? 

 

Any decent side will come out & play better in the second half if they go in 0-2 down at half time, especially at home. 

1 minute ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

Albeit if we had posed more of a threat on the break, contained to pose at 2-0 perhaps they wouldn't have pinned us back so much.

Did switching to a back 3 with wingbacks make it easier for them to isolate the wingbacks? It can definitely happen.

Possibly, but we wanted a win & got it.

Job done  

6 minutes ago, Negan said:

Everywhere but goalkeeper and attackers. When I seen the line up today I knew none of the front 3 were scoring. They’ll be good as the back ups but definitely need a whole new front line for next season. 

Max is coming on OK. Not perfect, but so much better than he was a year or 2 ago. 

There are games he's kept us in it this season.

A year ago he looked like he shouldn't save any shot on target.

11 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

No, not imho we didn’t.  We didn’t react at all to what became one way traffic.

Well we did - we decided to contain & protect a 2-0 lead & we won the game. 

If we'd have kept trying to pile forward against an improved, quality side who were chasing the game, they'd probably have overturned the deficit.

26 minutes ago, redkev said:

Lucky they got that big new shiny stand built 7,800   Build it and they will come they said

9363 wasn't it, today.?

10 minutes ago, Davefevs said:

And in fairness we should react to that.  But we didn’t.

Isn't that exactly what we did do & what you are criticising..?

13 minutes ago, Negan said:

Thought it was a matter of him being absolutely shattered more so than an injury. Maybe a bit of both but he’s got to be at the top of the list for distanced covered in the squad this season. Robert’s is very decent cover so we’ll be ok if he is out for a game or 2. 

We have a decent little squad coming together, with the forward line strengthened in the summer & hopefully Williams & James (for another 12 months) retained, or upgraded - maybe already covered with Bird - we have/will have far better depth heading into next season - whatever comes of this season. 

14 hours ago, Pezo said:

The problem with that is that there are probably 16 teams that aren't a million miles off 5th-10th and we are very much average in that group.

Well yeah - that is the point of the league table format - so that most teams within it are competitive.

This season the relegated prem sides are generally a vlass above the division they have come into.

Ipswich are excelling and then a few teams have struggled all season & will likely go down.

The rest of us are fairly evenly matched - as it should be.

We are competitive in almost ever game & like most others - need that spark or inspired addition to push on & find the consistency in our play & results to progress into one of the top 6 sides.

No reason we can't & have a sound squad to build on, albeit a bit thin on numbers & options.

When the likes of Skyes are out we really moss them because we don't have equal quality to replace them with & lack their extra class & impact.

Hopefully Dire will hit the ground running & make an impact - but he might turn out to just be another Yeboah.

I like how we are planning & building towards next season already.

That isn't "giving up" on this season - it's just been the business that we have been able to do & probably lack the depth of quality to sustain any good form this season - but who knows... get Dire, Twine & Skyes all fit & on form ASAP & who knows what impact that might have over the final 3rd of the season.

We are nowhere near the top 2, or 4 for that matter.

Beyond that, we aren't a million miles off 5th-10th.

4 hours ago, MarcusX said:

 

He nailed that one then. 

I was sure we'd end up with one of those defensive Stikers..!