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I can see this happening, and moderately positive about it. For FL, it's a possible chance to resurrect a managerial career. He wasn't going to turn down Chelsea, but they came calling far too soon in his career. A bit of a gamble for us, but any appointment would be. And bringing in a Johnson must be good

He joined Millwall, who finished in 21st place in 2017/18, in Oct 18. He guided them to 8th, 11th, 9th and 8th place finishes, only a point off the playoffs last season. That must be at least borderline impressive?

Some more balanced posts on here. I wonder whether NP's managerial career might suggest he's really good at laying foundations, but less good at really getting the very best out of his squads. There were lots of comments from Leicester fans about NP building the basis of Ranieri's title winning team. Maybe we could be at a stage where we need our own Ranieri? Whether that might be Eustace or Rowett is a different question. But it sure as hell ain't Jones!

Thanks for starting a slightly more nuanced discussion. I like NP and really wanted him to succeed. And yes there have been financial constraints and injuries. But I just can't shake off the feeling that progress was pretty slow and there were too many times when the team seemed like less than the sum of its parts. Was 14th last season really a good outcome given the players we had? So I'm sad to see him go, but perhaps something needed to change for us to kick on??

We simply don't know what's being said inside the club (and it should stay there). And as others have said, a public declaration of trust in the manager usually precedes a sacking. Have you seen who are next two opponents are

https://poscihd.com/cardiff-city-vs-bristol-city/

Sorry - you failed completely. Why don't we just leave it there

I will respond constructively - just quickly point out that you've attributed to me lots of things I haven't actually said, and then move on. I'm pressed for time and so some of these may be partly attributable to others, but here goes: we need to start with the absolutely obvious, SL's put a huge amount of his own money in the infrastructure is so very very much better - Ashton Gate and the HPC being the most obvious examples, and we are enjoying the fruits of previous investment in the academy we haven't (yet?) made the Prem, but we were one match away in 2008 and for a while it looked like Lee Johnson might be taking us there. Even so, we are now an established Championship club, and generally looking up rather than down, a position we could only have dreamed of not that many years ago. I have too many memories of trips to Gillingham, Northampton and the like not to appreciate the vast difference between now and then unless things are going very badly wrong, our managers are usually given quite a lot of time. That's something that can't be said for many clubs there seems to be a received wisdom here that SL is useless at appointing managers, but I disagree. First it's important to acknowledge that there are not dozens of other clubs out there making successful appointment after successful appointment. Personally I think many of our managers have been well chosen. Steve Cotterill and Gary Johnson spring to mind as the most obviously successful, and hopefully NP will join them. Controversially, I think Lee Johnson was a good appointment and he moved the club forward. Hindsight is wonderful, but at the time I was really excited when we appointed Derek McInnes, and even Sean O'Driscoll looked good on paper. Some such as Tinnion and Holden haven't worked out, but I have a lot of respect for both of them and I can absolutely see why people thought it was worth giving them a try. SL takes a lot of stick for Holden, but I still think we probably dodged a bullet with Chris Hughton and maybe we were in a difficult position once the penny dropped that perhaps Hughton wasn't the Messiah after all. And appointing Paul Simpson and Keith Downing alongside him seemed a good move I'm running out of time, there are probably more I could think of. And there is certainly a long list of things that he hasn't done, such as saddling us with mountains of debt, changing the club colours, trying to change the club name, appointing someone like Joey Barton, taking us into administration, getting points deductions, or selling the club on to an unscrupulous new owner who might do some or all of the above. Other than that, what have they ever done for us?

"things like this" - failing to namecheck NP in one specific quote in a statement about no longer having a CEO (NP is mentioned elsewhere in the statement). Shocking. I'm amazed NP didn't walk away immediately So I disagree that it's "simple". As I've said in another thread, if we had lost on Saturday, and we deserved to, we would have been 17th in the table and the mood here might have been a bit different. But the forum wants its heros and villains so please don't let me get in the way of that.

Really??? How come we are dissecting the wording of club statement from 20 September?????

While we're at it, why is the official site bcfc.co.uk rather than npbcfc.co.uk? Why do we play at Ashton Gate rather Ashton Gate where Nigel Pearson works. Or are we being a bit sensitive and looking for snubs for NP in every little thing the club does?

Indeed - I've given up saying this. Lots of fellow City fans speculating over what might be happening, and then driving themselves into an unnecessary rage because of these made up stories. Sorry if this has already been discussed, but yesterday's Post story said "He is also out of contract at the end of the season and no formal talks have taken place. Pearson's words at the weekend are also not thought to be linked with that particular situation." (my highlighting). Is there a chance that we've spent 42 pages and untold fury barking up the wrong tree?

So much speculation, so few facts. Had Coventry inflicted the defeat that our performance (and let's face it NP's starting line up) deserved, we would now be 17th, looking over our shoulders with 2nd place Ipswich about to arrive. I suspect this thread would have been a bit different. Such a fickle game football .....

But you do - enough to click on this (clearly titled) thread, and enough to take time out from your busy schedule to post a response

OTIB in microcosm. Someone invents a fictitious scenario and others weigh in to say how disgusted they would be

I've said this so many times, but there is not a long list of owners out there making perfect managerial appointment after perfect managerial appointment. Personally I think Derek McInnes and Lee Johnson were good appointments, but realise there are many here who will disagree. Even Sean O'Driscoll seemed good at the time. And I think most would agree that Gary Johnson, Steve Cotterill and Nigel Pearson were good appointments. Other appointments weren't so good, but were arguably worth a punt. I realise this won't happen, but I'd really like us to drop this myth that all of Steve Lansdown's decisions have been poor.

Marley ?

I've done lots of recruitment interviews and they've been invaluable. But I work in a field where individual performance is difficult to assess, there are no win/lose stats or league tables, the candidates haven't already given extensive interviews on national media, the recruitment and tactical decisions they've made haven't played out in front of thousands of spectators plus TV cameras, and there's no way of trying to work out whether in their previous roles they've created coherent, consistent and motivated teams that all know what they are meant to be doing in any situation. By now, everyone in football should know what LJ is like. There are some things an interview will clarify, such his motivation for that particular job and willingness to work within the intended structure. But if they don't already know LJ's strong and weak points, and fall for his charms during the interview, then they deserve everything that's about to happen to them ?

Isn't Fleetwood now an established stopping off point in a trajectory that leads to the best job in all of football ?

You could not be more wrong. The statement tells you absolutely nothing about my passion for football, etc. You know absolutely nothing about me, how long I've supported the club, the many many miles I've travelled to see them play, etc. Though there was a clue as my post mentioned watching many games at crappy grounds in the third and fourth tiers. All the statement tells you is that I know the definition of "investment" (and, just to remind you, I was responding to KITR's bizarre comments about how "tiny" SL's investment is). Just because I use correct terminology doesn't mean I'm not passionate.

What an unpleasant, ungrateful post. Whatever the actual amount SL loses (I firmly believe it will be a very large number indeed, and SO WHAT if you think he should have put in even more), he will have left us with a fantastic stadium and an established Championship club. I've seen far too many poor matches at crappy grounds in the third and fourth tiers not to be grateful for that. Yes some things haven't worked out, but there is no magic formula for appointing successful managers, effective CEOs, great players that other clubs somehow don't want (and who want to come here), etc. Personally I've invested precisely ZERO in the club. I've paid for many many admission tickets, in return for which I've been able to watch games. Some have been magical and some have been dire, but you know the range of possibilities when buying the ticket. I've also paid for and received other City-related products. But these are payments for goods/services, not investments

Even dumber post, and trying to make out a fellow City fan to be some kind of racist (or at least someone a "specific problem" with people from the Middle East and/or US) is beneath contempt. There is a enormous difference between SL (who has happens to live in Guernsey but has very very strong historical links with Bristol and Bristol City) and a random overseas investor with no previous connection to us. I don't know, but it's a pretty reasonable guess that the poster chose US and Middle East because many current/recent owners of other clubs come from those regions. SL has consistently shown his willingness to continue funding the club even when the likelihood of any imminent financial return is pretty close to zero. Can we be confident that a random overseas owner who might well have no previous connection to City or the city will do the same if we don't get promoted to the Prem after a small number of years? I certainly am not. There is a blindingly obvious difference between SL/JL and a new owner from US/Middle East/somewhere else in the world. But I'm sure you are already aware of that and just wanted to post something nasty.

It's called football (or, more specifically, EFL Championship football). No one makes any money.

But there's no magic recipe for a successful manager. Sometimes rookie appointments work, other times they don't. Equally, sometimes experienced appointments work and other times they don't. Holden seems to have found other jobs quite easily, so there must be others out there who see something in him. Many people on this board were crying out for Hughton, but he bombed at Forest and perhaps we dodged a bullet there? Eddie Howe's appointment at Burnley didn't work out, but his replacement by a journeyman lower league defender with a single year's managerial experience certainly did. Hindsight is wonderful.

Here we go again. Sorry to pick on you, but my heart sinks so much when I read this kind of thing. Have you noticed all the other chairs in the Championship making successful appointment after successful appointment? Perhaps not. Or have you noticed that only three current Championship managers have been in post for two years or more (and, yes, Nigel is one of them). Lee Johnson is Marmite on steroids on this board, but I still maintain he was a pretty good appointment (especially considering the state we were in when he took over). Dean Holden wasn't successful, but was replaced quite quickly and other clubs have gone on to hire him. We are now an established Championship club, which is huge progress over not that long ago. And while not all of SL's appointments have succeeded, he hasn't wrecked the club in the way that, say, Southampton's owners have after deciding that Nathan Jones was the man to take them forward ?. There is no easy recipe for appointing a successful manager. I contend that, actually, our record isn't that bad at all. For every Mark Robins there are many other disasters.