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@Ben6781

I hope, and always have hoped, Manning will do well for us. But I’m still pissed off with the lies and bullshit that came from Tinnion and JL. But that ain’t on Manning, it’s on those lying, deluded *****.

Exactly this. The two times we’ve appeared as the feature game on Sky we’ve been abysmal. We’re hardly easy on the eye, under Nige or Manning for balance.

Good performance against a complacent Forest side, and we had enough chances to have won that without it going to pens. How Wells doesn’t score, I don’t know. Cornick was reaching a bit for his chance, but if James gets his knee over the ball for his chance that bursts the net - like it did at Millwall earlier this season. It’s done and dusted now and we need to transfer this type of performance into the league. Only Blackburn have got fewer points than us in the last six games. That must change.

I hope the Lansdowns and Tinnion move on at the earliest opportunity because I’d like to see City in the top flight having waited more than three decades now. It sure as hell won’t happen on their watch, mind. Smaller clubs with less resources have done it time and time again; Lansdown and his long line of poor decisions over 20+ years is the one who has held, and continues to hold, us back.

“Top-10 budget” and “a squad that should be competing at the top end of the table” were the quotes from our inept chairman and his cronies. The first statement may have been true in the LJ/MA years but not now after Nige got rid of all the wasters; the second statement I interpreted to mean top six. Either way, both statements were a total bollocks and I won’t forget that. We (City fans) are generally too passive. These lot would be getting a much rougher ride at other clubs, and they should be at ours IMO.

True but he isn’t a striker or a winger either, which begs the question what position or role will he carve out a career at this level?

Did than come from our recruitment team or from SL’s Guernsey link?

I didn’t say our recruitment wasn’t good; I inferred we recruited to a template. For example, youngsters who’ve played 100+ games in the lower leagues. It seems very much sign by template, rather than think out of the box. While that has some merit, look at Summerville as an example of thinking out of the box. He didn’t play a single game for Feyenoord but came onto Leeds’ radar after two loan spells in Holland. When was the last time we made a signing like that? Our net is cast particularly wide IMO.

I haven’t heard his interview but how can he be salivating when the mandate for all new signings is to sign younger players we can sell on, all while those younger players may block the pathway of what Tinnion said is the best crop coming through. As for him drooling at our summer plans, I bet it doesn’t involve the sort of forward-thinking recruitment Leeds did with Summerville, for example. Young players who could make a tangible difference, rather than more passive players who produce little in terms of goals or assists. I loved him as a player, but he’s way out of his depth being in charge of recruitment. Delusions of grandeur.

Nothing’s changed, nor will it ever change until the Lansdowns - and Tinnion - move on. That’s the sobering and sad reality. For context, I have no issue with being outclassed by Leeds tonight. But I have major issues with those running the club and the decisions they make.

Totally outclassed in that first half and Conway’s wasted on the left.

Sadly, we rarely have a fully fit squad to choose from so those sort of selection dilemmas never arise

That’s fair and IMO - based on the board saying PL is the goal and we have a top-end squad - is that we need someone more solid than Max if we are to achieve that target. Nothing against Max; he’s ideal for a team treading water in the second tier, which is exactly what we are. But if he wants to go higher in the game, he needs to cut out those gaffes like last night.

Totally agree, but we could pick an XI and play a formation that suits Wells and Conway by dropping the box midfield. For example, 3-4-1-2: Max; Tanner, Vyner, Dickie; McCrorie, Knight, James/Williams, Pring; Twine; Wells, Conway.

Remember it well

While I agree we need proven experience at this level, there’s no risk with this signing IMO given the low fee involved. How many times did we pass up opportunities to get Watkins from Exeter or Bowen from Hereford for relative peanuts? We need proven performers in addition to the likes of Stokes, not instead of those types.

I think you’re right, and that’s so short-sighted of JL and BT IMO when you consider the experience King has and the huge role he plays in transitioning players from the academy to the first-team squad. There’s a real irony for me here, too. We know SL follows the FCB model and for that to be a success, he needs players who have top-level experience and a desire to go into coaching. Here we are, with a City fan who’s got multiple international caps, a PL winners’ medal and glowing reviews from the likes of Scott and Conway, and the club is disposing of that to remove all traces of Pearson? Sadly, I believe that, rather than King wanting to move. It’s pathetic and a real shame from a coaching perspective as I saw King as a potential manager of us in the future.

Tanner’s consistently good from a defensive point of view; it’s going forward where he needs to improve, and that’s a surprise to me considering he was a midfielder in his youth. First class tonight and I think he’d do well in the PL as well.

I rate Twine and always have. But what I don’t understand is we had chances to sign him permanently and for nothing in the past and yet passed up those opportunities, so why now? Strange one for me when you consider Gilhespy and Tinnion were both here when those opportunities arose.

Great servant, great pro. Recent appearances suggest his talents are on the wane, so it’s probably a good time to sell. I wish him all the best, but we must get a decent striker in now there’s a room in the wage budget.

New manager bounce is all about turning woeful results into positive ones. We weren’t having woeful results under Pearson; we’d lost a few games by the odd goal with most of a small squad out injured. Totally agree it’s not Manning’s fault and the board is 100% to blame.

I said at the time and will say again, Tinnion and the Lansdowns are the problem; not the latest manager. In short, nothing will change until they go.

My feeling is the board moved the goal posts in the summer in terms of the budget available for Nige post-Scott sale, and have loosened the purse strings for Manning.

Thanks. I was 10 back then and on my first away trip. Great night.