In the Net

2 hours ago, lenred said:

It’s an issue if we get stiffed with Sunday lunchtime kick offs. Maybe not for you but for many others.   Kids football, family, dare I say church, whatever - people have different things on on a Sunday. And of course Morhers day last weekend.  So I’d beg to differ and say it is very much an issue.  

Before AG was redeveloped, Rovers had to switch to Sunday if there was a fixture clash, as AG was contracted to holding a Sunday market.

It does seem to happen a bit more often these days, and I guess that the Police have a big influence as to whether it is necessary for the fixtures to be played on different days, and, which match should be moved.  Maybe the overtime pay is bigger for working a Sunday match! 

On 14/11/2023 at 20:50, reddoh said:

@inthenet how are things with you?

Not great.  My Mum passed away on Thursday, just 4 weeks before her 100th birthday. 

8 hours ago, Port Said Red said:

What ever you may think of the guy, some of you may find the Robbie Williams documentary on Netflix interesting. It's good to see that he has come through so much to become a happy family man, also that these sort of troubles are no respecter of wealth or fame. 

The ups and downs he has had and his apparent ultimate destination are similar to my own in some ways.

He has the chance to see footage of himself from many periods of his life and reflect on those. It made me think that it's a shame that life doesn't work in such a way that his young self could see what he becomes, but it's something we can do to some extent through this documentary and link it to ourselves and our own issues.

I thought that it was very good.  Some of the things he said resonated with me, (although I've never had an addiction), particularly "it would probably be best if I just passed away" - I know that feeling so well, and it can be a constant battle.  Looks like he has a lovely family, and hopefully he's sorted for good now. 

On 20/07/2023 at 13:07, TV Tom said:

No split, Millwall will not be selling any tickets in the “away end” to home supporter’s

Ah, ok.  Was just quoting what a Millwall fan had told me.  If they were to do that, it does seem an odd game to implement it. 

It's a 50/50 split.  If respect is shown for the recent passing of John Berlyson (and, I'm sure that it will), then the game should pass without incident.  As others have said, usually one of the safer away games due to the routine they have for policing.. 

4 hours ago, REDOXO said:

Maybe you should understand your dad and his brother are not the norm. But I think you already do!

With a population of over 5 million, I think that it's a bit of a sweeping statement to assume that you know what "the norm" is, regardless of which side of the fence you are on. 

13 hours ago, REDOXO said:

God I hate anything to do with The Republic of Ireland and it’s constant blaming of the English for everything. 
 

Dreadful thing to put up on a scoreboard and a bit embarrassing, however thousands travel to this country every week spilling their vile nonsense singing songs about terrorism, killing soldiers and that’s freedom of speech I am told. 
 
Someone should be fired of course, but I was brought up in Guildford and had over 30 years of all the evil bastards!

 

 

My late Dad's family are from Dublin, two of his brothers fought for us in the war.  When they came over here for a visit, one of the first things they always wanted to do was to visit the local British Legion.  Maybe you should broaden your horizons a bit.

I wouldn't have picked this message up if I was doing the checking, I'd be looking for prankster type messages, wishing Wayne Kerr a happy birthday etc.  I wasn't aware that politically related messages were a thing at football.  It could have been sent in by anybody, maybe not even a football fan, just somebody after publicity. 

2 hours ago, Lordofthebling said:

Ex player and Bristol city fan ain't he? 

Always gave 100% when he played in the quarters - can't ask for more.

I thought it looks like a young Bradley Walsh - can't ever remember Stewie having a hairstyle like that. 

4 hours ago, Banjo Red said:

Sadly every club has these idiots they just need to **** off and let real fans enjoy the game as it's supposed to be. If they want a punch up go do it on your own time and not in the name of any football team. Stamp out racism and stamp out hooliganism.

Spot on.  It always amuses me when a set of fans point the finger at another club, because their fans have been involved in an "incident" - I don't think there's a club in the league that is entitled to throw the first stone.  Sadly, I think that FV is on the increase, for quite a few years it was mainly a lot of shouting and gesturing between rival groups, seems to be an increase in actual physical exchanges in the last couple of seasons. Maybe the UK should introduce a "One Punch" law, which seems to have been effective in Australia. 

On 04/03/2023 at 10:02, Port Said Red said:

Ah but...... boycott... or something

Too right - long may it continue, EFL have ruined what used to be a decent sideshow competition. 

5 hours ago, Henry said:

It’s very easy to put the stock issues at the door of Hummels.

The stock levels have been a shambles for years. The common dominator is the football club.

The same thing happened to Millwall.  They negotiated with the Administrator at Elite to buy the remaining Millwall kit which the supplietr still had in stock, so they were able to carry on selling to fans for a while (not quite the same as Coventry) 

6 hours ago, BigTone said:

Came home 10 days early as had she had a bad fall and was admitted to hospital.  Was told yesterday that she also has dementia.

Really feel for you, reading this.  I hope that your wife is receiving good care, and will be home with you soon.  My 99 year old Mum has had dementia for quite a few years, luckily it was slow progressing, and I hope that it will be the same for your wife.  Make sure that you care for yourself as well.  Best wishes. 

1 hour ago, Bar BS3 said:

I bet that was the last think JB wanted on his first few days settling into the job - the local sports correspondent asking him complicated questions like that..!

How long did he have to think about it before could answer..?

It wasn't in the first few days, it was when Twentyman did a lengthy interview with him on Having a Gas at the start of this season.  GT is a professional broadcaster, and it's a question which I have occassionaly heard him ask other interviewees, I guess if you're speaking to somebody for an hour, you'd want to address them as per their preference.  Maybe that's what the glasses are for, to project a Joe 90 image?  

12 hours ago, bearded_red said:

 

*As an aside, has anybody noticed Twentyman’s absolute refusal to call him Joey? Just always makes me chuckle while everyone else is, but Twentyman will only ever call him Joe.

When Twentyman first interviewed Barton, he asked whether he preferred to be called "Joey, Joe or Joseph".  Barton told him that he prefers to be called Joe, hence GT always refers to him as such. 

Anyway, this is a City forum, and I think that I've more than had my say.  Enjoy your evening. 

1 minute ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

It is a fact, but its also a fact for every other club in our league, so it's obsolete.

The discussion was about the difference between City and Rovers, funding etc.  Finances in the Premiership and Championship are very different to Leagues One and Two, you only have to look at players' wages to see that. 

9 minutes ago, lenred said:

You used the laugh emoji.  That’s generally used if you find something funny.   Difficult for a gashead to fathom though, evidently.  

 Doesn't look like a laugh emoji to me.  

2 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

Then why try and use it as a point against us? It’s incredibly standard practice for Championship clubs. Waters wet blabla.

I wasn't a point against you, it is a fact. 

1 minute ago, petehinton said:

One being an emergency 7 day loan GK, the other being one who was in their academy originally with an enormous association with the club. 5 of their main 11 all coming through the academy. Top Straw grasping there. 

Very strange that they need loan players though 

4 minutes ago, lenred said:

Do you not get the point?  We are taking about developing your own youth players not loans.  Jesus wept.  

Yes, and I am pointing out that the vast majority of League One and Two clubs have the same amount of loans as us - and operate on the same model.  Some clubs get a good spell where they develop a number of local players, but I think the days of a conveyor belt, such as Crewe had in the past no longer exist.  I think you have to take both points in tandem, as the way the game operates has changed these days. 

Do you get my point?

1 hour ago, NcnsBcfc said:

All fair points @In the Net.

I think for me though, the Fruit market potential stadium saga would set alarm bells ringing if i was a Rover's fan.

At present, you have the stadium, and adjourning land in Horfield which is worth no doubt a considerable amount.

If i've read the proposal correctly. You will give all of these assets to the Fruit Market developer, who will build you a stadium, and then charge you rent to play there? The maths don't add up for me. 

Lansdown has obviously got planning permission for an area of land to build homes on, and part of this money will go towards the Sportong Quarter development. It was the same principle behind the failed AV stadium (thank you Bristol City Council )

I don't get why your club doesn't develop the Horfield site yourself, and then build your own stadium, whether at the Fruit Market or elsewhere?

It's akin to having a paid off 500k house,  and giving it away to a landlord. Who then builds you a 250k house, and charges you rent to live there.

Smacks of the Eastville scenario all over again, and where other clubs (Coventry being a good recent example) have fallen foul of 3rd party ownership of their stadium.

Why isn't Wael looking to do this new stadium himself, do you think?

Ah, there is unblinkered lifeform on here after all. 

Personally, I don't think the Fruit Market will happen.  I would go for developing the Mem, not sure why they say it isn't viable, as we don't need a huge stadium.  The scheme that Dunford had, before the bottom fell out of the property market/student flats, looked doable, and something similar could be revived.

I believe that Wael has somebody sounding out other people regarding investment, not sure that will happen either.

1 hour ago, TheReds said:

I didn't realise you were only discussing the developing of our own players, Your comment said the following "Gold star for the club South of the river, who's enormous losses are bankrolled by their billionaire owner "

So you are only saying we have had our owner bankrolling the development of our own players, and nothing else whatsoever - and from this he has had enormous losses? The only "enormous losses" you mention is from the whole club as far as I am aware, but please do tell me something I obviously do not know?

If that's is the case then how much have we lost from this bankrolled project in developing our own players? 

Asking how much Wael has put in is just trying to show that he isn't making any profit, and what does he have to show for it. Our "enormous losses" against your losses, assets, infrastructure etc would maybe show that we are nowhere near as bad as what most Rovers fans want to think, and what the poor rosy face lady garden has squandered away. 

Most of your post seems to have nothing to do with anything I have asked or mentioned. But as you mention he has never said he was a Billionaire etc, and everything seems to be the BPs faults, didn't he quite happily said he could have bought most of the Premier League clubs when interviewed and he was asked why he chose your mob?

I'm not aware that he said he could have bought most of the premier league clubs - happy to be proved wrong.  As for the BP, can you honestly imagine Peter Godsiff or Robin Perry having to resort to writing an article about somebody's watch?  

Just now, lenred said:

We’re talking about youth development not loans.   Not like a Gashead to change the subject though.  Also interesting that you seem to find the fact that your manager stubbed a cigar out on a kids face funny.   You must really be a believer. 

Where have I said that I found it funny.  You said that it was better for young players not to come to our club, I just pointed out that people with more knowledge of football than you or I, have entrusted young players to us - regardless of whether they are loans or not. 

43 minutes ago, Marcus Aurelius said:

“who's enormous losses are bankrolled by their billionaire owner “

This has to be one of the most uninformed & frankly stupid comments that I see quite often. Every single Championship club is a loss leading business ran by a multi hundred millionaire, or billionaire, owner, and has been for a very long time.

You're not really telling me anything new, that's how football is these days.  Lansdown is one of the more generous owners I believe. 

50 minutes ago, petehinton said:

Not if you actually have a good set up, get your structure in place and feed off a good academy. Exeter have done it for years and years and are the example that it really can be done in lower leagues. They’re really reaping the rewards now. Ryan Jones should’ve been more involved last season, he absolutely can make the step up if believed in and backed. But Barton seems more content on throwing players under the bus and replacing them with loanees or short term signings. Dropping Belshaw for that new keeper who’d basically never played the level should be something he’s nailed for, he was at fault for almost every goal, but as he’s a messiah he won’t be. It’s no way to navigate. It’s basically what LJ did here and it set us 5 years back. 
 

Gold star definitely for the club south of the river who have a cat 2 academy, consistently producing our own players, found in the very same area that the Fewers can develop in to but don’t have the set up or foundations to, and selling them for huge money into the PL or allowing them to carve out careers, rather than live season to season with lucky loans or have a good player for a season or two then sell him for a whopping £1m.

Is Scott Sinclair still the only player you can actually claim as your own? Despite him jumping ship at 16. Also surprising King Joey was saying in the summer he had to ‘rein Wael in’ on spending big fees even though you could, now somehow claiming woe is me for not having the capabilities too.
 

It will come home to roost. You lot seem to all in on him, despite him not really setting anything up. it’s concerning from the outside in, ‘rivals’ or not. 

Ah, would that be the same Exeter who currently have 5 loan players in their squad, the same as us?