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  2. The Style...

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    1 hour ago, mozo said:

    It think Manning's post match comments were interesting and suggest that what we saw on Saturday is not how we intended to play:

    "It was just the basics for me. Mistakes will happen, I’m okay with the lads making mistakes, you’re never going to see or play the perfect game of football it’s then the type of mistake. It was just a little bit too sloppy, we turned it over too cheaply, too passive with the ball, too passive with our running.

    "When you have an unforced error, make sure you don’t follow it up with another one, make sure you can get back in credit. If you have a little period when they’re pressing, okay, don’t be afraid to spin them and get up the pitch that way.

    “I thought we did that in the second half, I thought we started okay, there was a bit more purpose and intent, engaging them a little bit higher. We still didn’t work it into enough good areas like the other night but at least we carried more of a threat and there was more play in their half than in the first half.”

    ...

    So... if you think Manning prefers to be passive, to not engage high up, to not work the ball into attacking areas, and not to carry a threat...you might be wrong.

    We have seen in the last year that our players have struggled to execute the game plan, under two regimes.

    Ultimately, Manning is responsible for our success, or lack thereof, but I'm certain that it was his fault that we crap in the first half on Saturday. Sometimes the players just don't execute.

    Have you noticed though that if we play well it's down to the game plan and if we don't it's down to the players?

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  4. The Style...

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    @ExiledAjaxhit the nail on the head in the MDT. There is no Manning style, our approach to any game is determined by how the opposition set up.

    Which is why we play with aggressive intent in one game then revert to pedestrian football in the next. He just will not consistently play in a way that suits the players we have.

    He even out ranks LJ in the  over thinking stakes. Though he no doubt thinks it's sophisticated.

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  7. This Weekends Games - 12th April oneards

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    15 minutes ago, redkev said:

    Where have the Leicester gone from before Xmas , they were far superior to any thing else in the championship, not been hampered by injuries either , they look very mediocre recently, I think even we could beat them ( oh hang on we did )

    So did Millwall for that matter.

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  8. When to do it

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    2 minutes ago, Alessandro said:

    Yep - a couple of seasons of mediocrity saving our club from points deductions, potential relegation and fines because of the mismanagement of the owners that you so unconditionally support….:dunno:

    Oh and developing on the pitch the best young player we’ve ever had, the money from which your also don’t dare criticise Liam Manning will be benefiting from….

    Remarkable isn't it how some people simply ignore the context a manager is operating in?

    Liam has inherited a stable position and doesn't have to spend his time slashing costs, clearing out a bloated squad, changing the toxic cuture and so on as Pearson and Gould did. It's up to him to make the most of it.

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  11. Signs of change or pressure off?

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    2 hours ago, Davefevs said:

    A lot of talk of high press last night, and yet our opening two goals came from defensive errors, albeit forwards latching into balls into channel.  One a weak backpass, the other missed control / volley.

    But what we did was condense the pitch, more than press hard per se.  Blackburn occasionally broke the line of our front 3, but with Pring and McCrorie playing quite high, they were suffocated.  Our front 3 split their back 4 really well.  Blackburn were able to knock it about but they went nowhere.

    Second half, they went to a back-3 and for 20+ minutes it was stalemate, they had possession, we just didn’t let them get back into the game (nice job done, no need to risk a 2-0 lead).

    Then the subs came on, and we ripped them a new one.

    Condensing the pitch is what we didn’t do on Saturday, do did we work as a team.

    If we aren’t (generally) that creative in build-up, then best way is to win it high up.  I think a few of us have been crying out for this.  It doesn’t need to be reckless, last night was efficient to say the say the least.  And with Joe Williams and Jason Knight ready to pounce on balls into midfield, we gained a lot of ball / possession in their half, before they could set.

    As Jurgen Klopp said, a high press is the best number 10. 👍

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  14. Henry Winter leaving The Times.

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    2 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

    Winter is good how I would say he has this irritating habit of fawning over bigger sides or issues. His coverage when Everton were reduced on Appeal annoyed me.

    He consistently demonstrates that he doesn't understand the PSR regs. Like any number of journalists he gives the impression he has never read them nor indeed independent commission decision. "It's not fair to punish a great old club like Everton" doesn't qualify as journalism imo .

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  15. Dickie Rooks RIP

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    A hero of mine as a youngster as I played centre half.

    He was built like a brick wossname but not as tall as most centre halves of his day.

    His positioning was excellent though. I remember him marking Tony Hateley, a renowned target man and header of the ball. When a high ball was played up to Tony, Dickie would just take a step back and pick up the flick on. Hateley was baffled and rendered ineffective.

    Thanks Dickie and may you rest in peace.

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  18. Brighton

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    2 minutes ago, One Team said:

    So true Graham. I’ve said a few times on here, that play off final is the slidiest of sliding doors moments in our history. 

    Forget Luton, Coventry and anyone else he’s mentioned, it’s Brighton who we should really try to emulate; but couldn’t be further from it. 

    Steve in fact cited Brighton as the template but seems to have learned nothing from Tony Bloom.

    It's his club and he'll do what he wants even if it is demonstrably wrong. Great benefactor yes; great owner no.

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  19. Brighton

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    9 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

    Their fans seem very happy that Paul Barber has signed a new long term contract. Heard the name, not certain of his role- CEO?

    Yes, very highly regarded CEO and Deputy Chairman.

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  20. Brighton

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    5 minutes ago, Malago said:

    SL take note.  You have to speculate to accumulate.

    Not really. Bloom doesn't interfere in the football operation but appoints the best available people to key roles and trusts their expertise.

    Hence their brilliant player recruitment means they buy low and sell high but have the next gem already in the house. Which leads to success on and off the pitch.

    Steve does pretty much the opposite.

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  21. Brighton

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    6 hours ago, Mr Popodopolous said:

    Clearly some of this will be transfer and Potter driven but I wonder if Bloom will be looking to make hay while the sun shines and cut his Loan Balance a bit.

    I'd say Benham at Brentford could also start to do so a bit.

    Benham is looking to sell a controlling interest in Brentford, though he wants to retain a minority share

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  22. The Football Regulator

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    1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said:

    Very good piece. It's really hard.

    I am, right now as I type, editing suggested amendments to the Bill that will (hopefully) bolster "the regulator’s most important power...to impose an agreement between the Premier League and the EFL on revenue distribution in the event of a negotiating deadlock." I've got meetings this week where we are trying to give the IFR proactive powers, and also trying to make sure that anything plan the EFL puts forward or agrees to benefits L1 and L2 as well as just Leeds, Southampton, and the other big teams in the Champ.

    But it's bloody tough, and there's behemoths in front of us. 

    Interesting, thanks. We are fortunate to have somebody as informed as you, and actually engaged in the process, on OTIB. More power to your elbow.

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  24. Plymouth Argyle away match thread

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    53 minutes ago, Jimbo76 said:

    I am however enjoying the subtle first efforts at U turns that are now cropping up.

    "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" (attributed to J M Keynes)

    Changing your mind when evidence justifies it is a strength not a weakness, despite what politicians claim. I try to form opinions based on (sufficient) evidence rather than take a fixed position and stick to it.

    I wouldn't say there is sufficient evidence in Manning's favour over his tenure so far and pleased though I am with successive wins I'll wait for more evidence I think.

    Which seems reasonable to me.

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