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I sometimes wonder the same thing - but then remember that in fact we really only played that way for around 4 months of Lee's almost 4 years here in my opinion. That style of football has unfortunately been very much the exception.

Stunning irony here. Step 1: Check Step 2: Check Step 3: Check Step 4: Check. Huh. Sounds like you're just as guilty as those you're trying to rather ham-fistedly call out, along with bizarre whataboutery. Just because awful things happen in the world doesn't have any bearing on other awful things - or should we never get annoyed, offended, or upset about anything because there may be someone worse off? Pathetic. It's disheartening to even see the small number of people on here putting those saying they dislike people chanting Tommy Robinson's name or equivalent down to "virtue signalling" and "antifa". Rather than signalling virtue, whatever that even means now (to who, a bunch of strangers on a football forum?!?! for what possible reason?!) could they not just be genuinely upset or disappointed? What should people like me, who feels those things do in that case? Keep quiet? Terms like "virtual signalling" are trotted out non stop now and have absolutely no meaning apart from smug derision and mockery for someones beliefs - while you then ironically also talk above about being unable to stand anyone with alternative views. It's just an indication of those who have been indoctrinated by online only straight to source news. Try taking BreitBart, youtube, and facebook off your "news" bookmarks. You're not being clever and open minded, breaking the MSM bubble, you're willingly accepting an IV line of illicitly funded lies designed to drive wedges between us (amongst other things), and it's working. This is nothing to do with left v right, that's just lazy thinking. Here's an idea: We all love this club, we're (almost) all shocked and disappointed by any racist chanting, this is something we can DIRECTLY affect and improve upon in our local community way more than emailing the Chinese embassy or whatever bizarre suggestion you had above. People telling each other they're upset, shocked, or disappointed, people spreading awareness, people condemning these actions - those are not bad things to be smugly mocked by people, and drawn into ridiculous debates about semantics.

Most of them just after half time, usually.

Interesting analysis, and pretty accurate I'd say. To the person above who said we could get Afobe for less - maybe. But lets not forget, he moved for around £12m less than a year ago, and is now (unfortunately) out for the rest of the season. A players injury record is part of their worth, as unfair as that may be on a personal level. Who would you rather have at the club right now? Fam has been a great servant to the club. I think the fundamental issue is that as a club we've moved on since he joined in 2017, and he hasn't much. For us, and with the quality around him, mid table championship standard at best is no longer good enough. Look at the signings we've made this summer - no longer are we signing lower championship quality players, hoping they develop into mid or perhaps top ones. We're now, for the most part (Kalas, Dasilva, Massengo, Nagy, Bentley) signing mid/upper level championship players who have the potential to become lower/mid table premiership ones. That's an absolutely massive leap, and I think the players we don't think have this potential (Pack, Paterson) as good as they have been are now being moved on... and I think Famara probably fits into that category. I suspect you could even put Mo Eisa into that category - My guess is the club think he may develop into a lower/mid championship player at best, which is now below our acceptable standard. He's a solid championship player, no frills, and will probably get you 10-15 goals a season which is no mean feat - but at the moment, as a club we want better. He now has better quality around him, and that's making his deficiencies are more obvious.

Thought he was alright, but nowhere near our best player - I feel like because he's young and we all want him to do well, some people aren't viewing him in an accurate light. Didn't think he got in to the game much in the first half... Was starting to improve in the second and had a good shot which Weimann then put in (disallowed) but not many more notable highlights. He still looks raw to me, and is expecting to have a bit more time to think or take on the ball than he has at this level. I'd still give him more games and time.

Bentley - 6 - Solid and almost got to one of the pens. Not really at fault for any of the goals. Couple of poor choices distribution wise which is unusual from him Hunt - 7 - Got forward well and won the odd corner, great work rate Rowe - 6 - A bit quieter this game I thought, didn't stand out in a positive or negative way Moore - 7 - Good to see him get on the score sheet, and did well after an early mistake Williams - 7 - As above, just class. Great tackles, a fantastic block, strong, almost always in the right place. Should be at least an 8, but a foolish penalty to give away Baker - 7 - Strong as always, relatively quiet I thought which isn't always a bad thing from a defender Brownhill - 7 - Typical solid but unspectacular performance. Decent shot the keeper spilt from a long way out, and took the free kick for our goal I think Massengo - 7 - No big moments of note I can recall, but always on the Preston players heels nipping at them and winning the ball Palmer - 6 - Decent going forwards but I didn't feel like he was on a wavelength with the front two while he was on Weimann - 6 - Got a goal with a great header and his work-rate as always was excellent Semenyo - 6 - This will be controversial I'm sure as he's somewhat of a favourite already, but I felt he didn't really get into the game at all in the first half, and apart from his good shot which Weimann put in the rebound it's hard to recall much else from him. Deserves to keep getting minutes on the pitch as he'll only improve Subs: O'Dowda - 5 - Thought he was quiet when he came on, and often ran too much with the ball on the break only to lose it when a better option was on and put us back under pressure Diedhiou - 7 - Hard to rate as always. Perfectly good goal disallowed, won the free kick we scored from and made a great chance with a good flick on to Weimann in the box is a good return in 30m... But when he's not doing something really good, he's usually doing something pretty poor for this level Watkins - 6 - Brought a bit of strength on and held the ball up well, although I felt he was a bit selfish at times.

Fully agree with the backs to the wall, team spirit stuff, but am I the only one who finds the constant references to the world wars on here a bit odd?

Twitch as in the gaming/streaming site? That's because it's not true.

You're thinking exclusively about first world countries like ours though. Across the world many people use these sites for example to expose corruption of their state or whatever, and have to do so anonymously for fear of reprisal. I'm not sure I'd be comfortable with the state having such involvement in what I do or don't want to post online - because of the actions of a few idiots. How could you possibly enforce something like that worldwide? Maybe you're more trusting than me, but the idea of a country having a perfect record of everything you've ever said or done online is a bit too 1984 for me.

My word there are some very thirsty and sad guys on here.

Saw a great stat about this. Gary Monk is the ninth consecutive Sheffield Wednesday manager not to have been born on a Wednesday. The last one who was, Paul Sturrock, got them promoted. Brilliant!

Just some match highlight videos

No problem at all

Bizarre isn't it. I see 22 blokes kicking a ball around on the pitch, but as soon as I run on and do it it's all of a sudden not ok? I just can't understand it. It's almost like there are different rules in different situations.

Weird comment. Of course he is - because he's a young lad not used to Championship football. He will make mistakes, and if he plays a lot this year he will give goals away too which are without doubt his fault. If you're going to play young players we have to accept that, and within reason (unless he's hopeless, which he doesn't seem to be) give him support to help him develop. Accidents will happen, but that doesn't make him a bad player.