Lrrr Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 he only has a year left on his contract, we don't sell him this summer he goes for nothing next summer as he more than likely won't sign a new contract here being 4th choice at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Thats the beauty of it... we don't need to offload him or anyone else as we've focused on our financials through this transfer window. The situation where we lost £11m per year obviously couldn’t go on and City have gone along way to reduce costs on and off the field. Things are a lot better but there is still a long way to go. We have to comply with the new Championship financial fair play rules. We have low gates compared to many other Championship clubs. Low non-match day revenue until we get a new stadium. With all these factors, with the exception of young players, city can’t afford to keep players who are unlikely to feature in the first team. Also, with Pitman, his contract finishes at the end of the season. If he doesn’t go now or in January, he leaves for nothing. Hopefully City will have learned a lesson from the Maynard saga and take the money if a reasonable offer comes along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jordan Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 How can people say Pitman's passing is poor? At times I think they must be watching another player as his link up play with the rest of the team has been great in the past. The only thing that lets him down is his pace, but even that doesn't stop him for being a good Championship striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threshersleftboot Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 1m is laughable for a striker with no pace. would be delighted with anything above 400k It wasnt laughable when we paid £862k for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 The situation where we lost £11m per year obviously couldn’t go on and City have gone along way to reduce costs on and off the field. Things are a lot better but there is still a long way to go. We have to comply with the new Championship financial fair play rules. We have low gates compared to many other Championship clubs. Low non-match day revenue until we get a new stadium. With all these factors, with the exception of young players, city can’t afford to keep players who are unlikely to feature in the first team. Also, with Pitman, his contract finishes at the end of the season. If he doesn’t go now or in January, he leaves for nothing. Hopefully City will have learned a lesson from the Maynard saga and take the money if a reasonable offer comes along. Completely agree that we still have a long way to go. However, having 5 strikers at a club is generally considered an ideal number. For example, say one of our strikers gets injured on Saturday (Baldock, Taylor and Davis all have injury history) then we can't go into games with 3 strikers. As last Saturday showed when Taylor was injured, we had no options at all and we were forced to play Adomah as a centre forward. I think Pitman is a good 5th choice striker that we should keep hold of, he is nowhere near good enough to start ahead of the other strikers but if we end up with an injury crisis he could be useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCAGFC Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'm of the opinion he is now surplus but I'm struggling to see where his game is "severely lacking in so many areas". He has good vision, can pass, good at linking the play, good finisher, finds space well, not bad in the air.....So where is he severely lacking? I would say his work rate and demeanour are not the best and he is not that pacey, but he seems to do okay without that. I think we all agree that his physical attributes are extremely poor (at least for the championship) but we all agree he is a decent finisher from inside the box. His first touch is average at best, he has decent vision but tries too many cross field passes and usually over hits them, his link up play isn't bad as well but he certainly doesn't make space for himself. if you watched taylor closely on tuesday, that is how a striker is supposed to play, strong, aware, good movement, reasonably fast....and didn't need 25 games in a row to score. We have FAR better options than BP now. BCAGFC P.s. Message for Nogbad, I am available for councelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 The argument often boils down to goals, which never tells the full story. Kevin Nolan at West Ham is a true case in point of that. We have signed two strikers with goals in who, it would appear, will offer a fair deal more than BP to the team as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdave60 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 he will hes a good finisher, difficult to make an impact as a striker on the wing, or coming on in th 89th minute !! could be argued a tad lazy not tracking back etc !!! only city could take a prolific striker from the lower leagues and not get the best out of them :tounge: Missed three easy goals against the Gas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Completely agree that we still have a long way to go. However, having 5 strikers at a club is generally considered an ideal number. For example, say one of our strikers gets injured on Saturday (Baldock, Taylor and Davis all have injury history) then we can't go into games with 3 strikers. As last Saturday showed when Taylor was injured, we had no options at all and we were forced to play Adomah as a centre forward. I think Pitman is a good 5th choice striker that we should keep hold of, he is nowhere near good enough to start ahead of the other strikers but if we end up with an injury crisis he could be useful. he did play adomah up top instead of a fit pitman that tells you all you need to know on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 he did play adomah up top instead of a fit pitman that tells you all you need to know on it Yeh because as we all know stead and pitman simply don't work... Could very well be different if it was baldock/taylor/davis and pitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garland-sweden Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Think the manager in Burnley was manager in Bournmouth when Pitman was there. Pitman can score and make good passes, but with our new signings think he will not be in the starting 11. Burnleys gaffer sure rate him high, so therefore I think we can have a good price for BP. Think its good for everybody if he can move on and play for start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 If the rumour we paid no more than £1.5 for Baldock is true, then we'd be doing very good business to get anything north of 500k for Pitman. Regardless of what your opinion is can he honestly be expected to get more than half a mill, situation and everything considered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 If the rumour we paid no more than £1.5 for Baldock is true, then we'd be doing very good business to get anything north of 500k for Pitman. Regardless of what your opinion is can he honestly be expected to get more than half a mill, situation and everything considered? it would be no more then 500k for baldock west ham owed us a million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citywest30 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/Bristol-City-squad-taking-shape-says-McInnes/story-16750884-detail/story.html Put on a different thread that I read the comments about wanting players who don't have lazy days as suggesting there were players who did when he got here - Spence, JCR, Stewart etc and I wouldn't be surprised if Pitman was one of these too, looking at how he has never featured regularly. If this is the case then surely he'll be on the way out as like del said he wants players who don't have these lazy days and he seems to he bringing in those type of player. I reckon the other business he talks about could be him and maybe one or two others leaving, not just a cd coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Horsman Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Burnley are, I believe about to get a tidy 'Brucie Bonus' when Fletcher goes to The Mackems from Wolves, as a result of a sell-on clause, so they may well choose to reinvest some of that additional cash in an attacking player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 they're going to be getting a couple of million probably, they could easily spend 500k or so trying to get Pitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibs Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Its pointless debating with people who simply just don't like the bloke. I'm of the opinion that he should leave and is no longer required but it's amazing that now we have signed a couple of strikers, Pitman is being made out as someone barely good enough to play professional football. Reminds me of Derby fans following the departure of Pearson - apparently the worst player ever to pull on a Derby shirt and the Aberdeen fans were saying similar things when we signed Foster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I'm pretty sure Burnley will put in a bid for Pitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby kellard hero Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 @bcfctweets: Derek McInnes: "Not under any pressure to sell anyone. Pleased with how the squad is shaping up. Delighted with board and owner's backing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 http://www.thisisbri...tail/story.html Put on a different thread that I read the comments about wanting players who don't have lazy days as suggesting there were players who did when he got here - Spence, JCR, Stewart etc and I wouldn't be surprised if Pitman was one of these too, looking at how he has never featured regularly. If this is the case then surely he'll be on the way out as like del said he wants players who don't have these lazy days and he seems to he bringing in those type of player. I reckon the other business he talks about could be him and maybe one or two others leaving, not just a cd coming in. A less than enthusiastic approach to training and fitness might well be associated with some of those you mention (Stewart, particularly) and I seem to recall that even Millen, who signed Pitman and clearly rated him, said when Brett joined the club that it took a while to get his fitness up to the level we required. However, I'm a bit surprised to see you put JCR in there. He could be a frustrating player who kept the ball too long and slowed things down as a result, but to be fair to him I though he had a good attitude and always worked his arse off whenever I saw him play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliftonCliff Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Its pointless debating with people who simply just don't like the bloke. I'm of the opinion that he should leave and is no longer required but it's amazing that now we have signed a couple of strikers, Pitman is being made out as someone barely good enough to play professional football. Reminds me of Derby fans following the departure of Pearson - apparently the worst player ever to pull on a Derby shirt and the Aberdeen fans were saying similar things when we signed Foster. I'd second that. His shortcomings have been exaggerated out of all proportion in recent weeks. Nobody's claiming he's the complete package, but he's shown he's a bloody good, natural finisher on his day, given the right service, and he will score goals wherever he goes - if he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citywest30 Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 A less than enthusiastic approach to training and fitness might well be associated with some of those you mention (Stewart, particularly) and I seem to recall that even Millen, who signed Pitman and clearly rated him, said when Brett joined the club that it took a while to get his fitness up to the level we required. However, I'm a bit surprised to see you put JCR in there. He could be a frustrating player who kept the ball too long and slowed things down as a result, but to be fair to him I though he had a good attitude and always worked his arse off whenever I saw him play. I quite liked him too to begin with but got tired of his aimless running. However there was definitely some sort of incident soon after del arrived involving Spence, JCR and Stead? if I recall and where as stead worked himself back into the team the others didn't which is why he may have been a bit lazy but this really is just my opinion, I don't have any insider knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Get rid. When McInnes took over he inherited 5 strikers, sold one for money reasons in January and now he still 5 strikers again. What makes you think he'll sell Pitman? According to Derby fans Davies is made of glass so him being out from injury is a serious possibility. Over 46 games its very likely that other strikers will get knocks or suspended and miss games as well. Unless Pitman wants to go or Burnley offer silly money he'll stay at City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martyn Hocking Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 For me, Pittman has turned out to be a poor man's Tony Thorpe. Wouldn't be sorry to see him go if we got money for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne allisons tongues Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Trouble is he's in last year of his contract I think. That may force us to sell him before he's worth nothing to us, think same applies to stead. Surely if he's wanted, a new contract should be on the table to sign or at least talking to him if he wants to stay. Otherwise end of season could be losing 2 strikers for nothing. If the club are following ffp, why have we signed 2 new strikers I guess on good money. Must mean a few players are on there way out, if not we've not saved anything on wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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