Bristol Rob Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: As much as I'd love to have sympathy with people who gave large sums of untraceable cash to a football player who promised them a 20% p/m ROI...somehow I just can't find the required compassion. Anyone who's spent at least, oh, five minutes or so living in the real world would surely have smelled a scam from a mile away?! Sadly a good conman will make most thing seem plausible. Regardless of your intelligence, perceived wealth or social standing. If you have a quid or a million quid, the return being offered was far better than the banks were paying and if he was able to pay a convincer for the first 6 months of a low investment a lot of people would have trusted him with even more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downendcity Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Little sympathy for supreme rich players suckered into McIndoe's s heme. Lots of sympathy for lower league players and family members who were not super rich but conned into parting with money they could probably not afford to lose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 9 minutes ago, john from high littleton said: Agree, v difficult to feel sorry for super rich footballers....in they're greedy pursuit to try and get even wealthier. These aren't super rich, though. They're well paid compared to the average for sure but nothing like the top players get. Being a footballer is a short career and the sensible ones will try to invest as much of their earnings as they can to prepare for a retirement that could come at pretty much any moment. Obviously these invested very badly and should have been suspicious of anything promising 20% pm ROI but there is nothing wrong in principle with them wanting to grow their wealth (or indeed with anyone wanting to, rich or poor). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I have never, ever heard of the former Wolves goalkeeper, Matt Murray but the fact that he had £1.6m to invest with McIndoe makes one realise how stupidly crazy are professional footballer salaries. I've just googled him - he played for Wolves for his entire career which ran from 1998-2010 during which time he amassed just 87 first team appearances, retiring due to injury aged 29. An average of just over 7 games per season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: I have never, ever heard of the former Wolves goalkeeper, Matt Murray but the fact that he had £1.6m to invest with McIndoe makes one realise how stupidly crazy are professional footballer salaries. I've just googled him - he played for Wolves for his entire career which ran from 1998-2010 during which time he amassed just 87 first team appearances, retiring due to injury aged 29. An average of just over 7 games per season. Works for Sky Sports now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pickle Rick Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: I have never, ever heard of the former Wolves goalkeeper, Matt Murray but the fact that he had £1.6m to invest with McIndoe makes one realise how stupidly crazy are professional footballer salaries. I've just googled him - he played for Wolves for his entire career which ran from 1998-2010 during which time he amassed just 87 first team appearances, retiring due to injury aged 29. An average of just over 7 games per season. 4 minutes ago, glynriley said: Works for Sky Sports now. And he loves a good pout at the end of everything he says... If you haven't noticed, I'm sure you will from now on. Edited March 2, 2016 by Scrumpy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Conning pro footballers must be like shooting fish in a barrel. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 12 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: Conning pro footballers must be like shooting fish in a barrel. Why do so many people have it in for the bloke from Marillion? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenred Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 52 minutes ago, downendcity said: Little sympathy for supreme rich players suckered into McIndoe's s heme. Lots of sympathy for lower league players and family members who were not super rich but conned into parting with money they could probably not afford to lose. Agree but the old adages remain. 'Too good to be true and it probably is' and 'don't gamble what you can't afford'. Simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 42 minutes ago, glynriley said: Works for Sky Sports now. 38 minutes ago, Scrumpy said: And he loves a good pout at the end of everything he says... If you haven't noticed, I'm sure you will from now on. I do recognise him but only as a Sky match summariser - I never realised he was a pro footballer. Wiki also states that he's a goalkeeping coach for the Nike Academy, whatever that is? I remember when it was compulsory for all former footballers to become publicans or postmen. How times change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 34 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Why do so many people have it in for the bloke from Marillion? How did it come to this bitter end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 minute ago, BRISTOL86 said: How did it come to this bitter end? Is it too late to say I'm sorry? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: I do recognise him but only as a Sky match summariser - I never realised he was a pro footballer. Wiki also states that he's a goalkeeping coach for the Nike Academy, whatever that is? I remember when it was compulsory for all former footballers to become publicans or postmen. How times change. Sky have obviously picked him up to tap into all his experience of 80 odd professional games. The fact he has a black country accent was obviously just a bonus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BristolCity1992 Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Matt Murray was a decent player he would have played higher if he wasn't so injury prone in my opinion. Still that does sound like a lot of money for never actually playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 Matt Murray was a very good keeper and if it wasn't for injuries we would of made 387 appearances not 87 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfred Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 3 hours ago, Rudolf Hucker said: I have never, ever heard of the former Wolves goalkeeper, Matt Murray but the fact that he had £1.6m to invest with McIndoe makes one realise how stupidly crazy are professional footballer salaries. I've just googled him - he played for Wolves for his entire career which ran from 1998-2010 during which time he amassed just 87 first team appearances, retiring due to injury aged 29. An average of just over 7 games per season. I literally bumped into Matt Murray in the toilets under the South Stand before the Brum game. He was wearing a Sky Sports jacket. Interesting, eh.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Hucker Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 minute ago, redfred said: I literally bumped into Matt Murray in the toilets under the South Stand before the Brum game. He was wearing a Sky Sports jacket. Interesting, eh.... Okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfred Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 3 minutes ago, Rudolf Hucker said: Okay. I can assure you that he wasn't trying to claw back some of the £1.6m he'd lost during our brief flirtation in the toilet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bristol Rob Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, redfred said: I can assure you that he wasn't trying to claw back some of the £1.6m he'd lost during our brief flirtation in the toilet. Did he try and sell you any food vouchers? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfred Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 47 minutes ago, Bristol Rob said: Did he try and sell you any food vouchers? My penis was in his mouth so to be honest he couldn't really talk to be able to sell me any food vouchers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelton’s Love Gravy Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 (edited) If I ever bumped into Michael McIndoe I would challenge him to a duel. I reckon I could have him. Matt Murray on the other hand I did actually meet once, in a rather nice cafe in a park on the outskirts of Sutton Coldfield. He is a substantial physical presence, and I would certainly not challenge him to a duel. If I did then I would probably die... Edited March 2, 2016 by Nicky Morgan's Organ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted March 2, 2016 Report Share Posted March 2, 2016 I always found him tobe a nice guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted March 3, 2016 Report Share Posted March 3, 2016 7 hours ago, Rednwhiterob said: I always found him tobe a nice guy. People finding you a nice guy is a prerequisite for being a conman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olé Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 Where were all these players Mr. 10% when this was happening? Agents are normally so fond of influencing their players career and financial planning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 7 hours ago, Olé said: Where were all these players Mr. 10% when this was happening? Agents are normally so fond of influencing their players career and financial planning. Hopefully some of those leeches invested as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Watts Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 On 3/2/2016 at 18:08, redfred said: I can assure you that he wasn't trying to claw back some of the £1.6m he'd lost during our brief flirtation in the toilet. He lost £1.6m during your brief flirtation in the toilet? What the hell went on in there, you pervert?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 On 15/04/2013 at 23:31, OldlandReddies said: Think he left football for a life as a financial adviser. I loved him, especially after the Palarse game when he stormed on the away bus to belt Carle, classic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiderHider Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 What ever happened to Carle anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILINFRANCE Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 3 hours ago, CiderHider said: I loved him, especially after the Palarse game when he stormed on the away bus to belt Carle, classic Is that true, really? Not doubting you, but I have never heard that before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexukhc Posted March 4, 2016 Report Share Posted March 4, 2016 1 hour ago, PHILINFRANCE said: Is that true, really? Not doubting you, but I have never heard that before. Never heard that either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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