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This is all completely irrelevant as he would never come here anyway. Quite apart from his gas connections why would he come to a struggling league 1 club when they'll be championship teams queuing up for his signature.

His name hasn't even been mentioned for the Crawley or Notts County jobs, he's only in the "running" because it would make an interesting story.

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And he could, alas as demonstrated on here by those that are less than insightful of what is needed, but prefer to put petty spite in front of common sense is only to apparent.

I have said it before it is one of the reasons we are where we are, some are so stuck in the past it's embarrassing, glad I got out of Bristol all those years ago. I might have turned out narrow minded and obsessed with the Rovers too.

Would you say Cardiff fans who protested their colour change were also narrow minded? Just curious as to where you'd draw the line?

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And he could, alas as demonstrated on here by those that are less than insightful of what is needed, but prefer to put petty spite in front of common sense is only to apparent.

 

I have said it before it is one of the reasons we are where we are, some are so stuck in the past it's embarrassing, glad I got out of Bristol all those years ago. I might have turned out narrow minded and obsessed with the Rovers too.

Not really, if that were the case Ward would never have been accepted, I keep seeing this argument rattled out.  The point is he is anast piece of work

 

His career is a mixed bag

 

Took rovers from promotion certs to 7th place

Relegated QPR

Promoted QPR

Garden leave by QPR for courting Leicester

Sacked QPR

Plymouth  mid table

Resigns from plymouth after saying he was happy there  for Leicester

Joins Leicester

Relegates Leicester resigns

Joins Blackpool, promotes Blackpool

Relegates Blackpool

Gets Blackpool to playoffs

Resigns from Blackpool

Joins Palace, gets them up, but nearly blew it

Buys loads of players who he does not rate or can control then resigns.

 

Mixed bag, far more negatives than positives.  Yet people seem to want to blow sunshine out of his arse for a promotion with Blackpool and his gung ho approach to the Premier League team for 1 season.... which ended in relegation 

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3 promotions....

 

Fine by me.

3 relegations, not so fine, like I say mixed bag, but negatives (such as courting other teams twice) out weigh the positives.

 

Then add his dislike of City and City fans into the mix, and it sure is a match made in heaven!

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3 relegations, not so fine, like I say mixed bag, but negatives (such as courting other teams twice) out weigh the positives.

 

Then add his dislike of City and City fans into the mix, and it sure is a match made in heaven!

 

The Blackpool relegation from the Premiership is hardly a failure.

In fact they did bloody well under him in the top tier for the budget they had in comparison.

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The Blackpool relegation from the Premier League is hardly a failure.

In fact they did bloody well under him in the top tier for the budget they had in comparison.

Relegation not failure? of course it is.  That is just an excuse peddled out.  Notice Swansea stayed up and have improved, enabling them to up their budget.  It is about being aware of tactics, which he isn't, going hell for leather is all well and good, but they lost so many points from winning positions  because of bad decisions from the boss.

 

Relegation is failure, no matter how you want to dress it up.

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Relegation not failure? of course it is.  That is just an excuse peddled out.  Notice Swansea stayed up and have improved, enabling them to up their budget.  It is about being aware of tactics, which he isn't, going hell for leather is all well and good, but they lost so many points from winning positions  because of bad decisions from the boss.

 

Relegation is failure, no matter how you want to dress it up.

 

I think your personal views of Holloway are clouding you on that one.

 

Blackpool's stint in the Premiership under him was impressive and they played some nice football - shook up some of the big boys.

 

All on a budget of 1/100th of them.

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I think your personal views of Holloway are clouding you on that one.

 

Blackpool's stint in the Premier League under him was impressive and they played some nice football - shook up some of the big boys.

 

All on a budget of 1/100th of them.

How can it be clouded, they were relegated, good football or not.  I never disputed the football they played up there was good on the eye.  And clearly financially with parachute payments they must surely be minted now.  But Money doesn't buy success, you need the tactics nous and team spirit to be winners.  And some of those were missing,  a little more know how and he could have kept them up,  they had a cracking start to the campaign which should have been enough.

 

I don't like the bloke, that is clear, but people rattle out BS abouthim being a great manager, his record shows he is equally adept at in fact moreso of screwing over clubs and equal relegations to promotion.  That doesn't say great manager that say erratic inconsistent manger to me

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Let's look at his jobs:

Bristol Rovers - play offs, mid table, sacked. FAIL

QPR - relegated, promoted, mid table, sacked. EVENS

Plymouth - quit to go to Leicester and later admitted to being dishonest - FAIL

Leicester - relegated, sacked - FAIL

Blackpool - promoted, relegated, play offs, left. - SUCCESS

Crystal Palace - promoted, left. EVENS

To qualify the last one, he signed so many players in the summer and made a right mess of things and then resigned as he couldn't handle it. Hardly an overall success.

So, one success out of six.

Amazing that some fans want this man at our club.

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Let's look at his jobs:

Bristol Rovers - play offs, mid table, sacked. FAIL

QPR - relegated, promoted, mid table, sacked. EVENS

Plymouth - quit to go to Leicester and later admitted to being dishonest - FAIL

Leicester - relegated, sacked - FAIL

Blackpool - promoted, relegated, play offs, left. - SUCCESS

Crystal Palace - promoted, left. EVENS

To qualify the last one, he signed so many players in the summer and made a right mess of things and then resigned as he couldn't handle it. Hardly an overall success.

So, one success out of six.

Amazing that some fans want this man at our club.

It matters not, only Blackpool counts apparently!

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Let's look at his jobs:

Bristol Rovers - play offs, mid table, sacked. FAIL

QPR - relegated, promoted, mid table, sacked. EVENS

Plymouth - quit to go to Leicester and later admitted to being dishonest - FAIL

Leicester - relegated, sacked - FAIL

Blackpool - promoted, relegated, play offs, left. - SUCCESS

Crystal Palace - promoted, left. EVENS

To qualify the last one, he signed so many players in the summer and made a right mess of things and then resigned as he couldn't handle it. Hardly an overall success.

So, one success out of six.

Amazing that some fans want this man at our club.

But he's a City boy through and through and he'd have passion for this club.

Oh no, my mistake. He's odious gas scum who shouldn't be allowed in BS3.

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Ian Holloway is a Bristol Rovers fan who has openly stated his hatred of Bristol City Football Club and it's Supporters.

 

Hopefully that should be enough for us to make up our minds on this one.

 

Taking it to the extreme, I wouldn't expect President Ahmadinejad of Iran to rock up as the President of the USA any time soon!

 

I'm not sure a lot of our fans truly "get it" here.

Of all the people I personally know who are City fans (and I'd safely number that in the 200-300 bracket, maybe more) I don't know a single one who would attend Ashton Gate if this maggot was in charge.

 

Call me small-minded or whatever you want.  He hates City, and I despise him.  Not just based on his footballing persona/history/allegience, but I have had personal dealings with the maggot and I can safely share with you all that he is a 100% confirmed a-hole.

 

Hope that's clear.

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Fool, I have been supporting City since well let's say over 55 years, seen many managers come and go, good times bad times, I am a true City diehard, you will just be a fickle fan who bottles it,  and you say I am a 'dustant' ? Utd fan?

 

What it means to be a fan?

 

You wouldn't know, obviously...

Oh but I do understand what it means to support your club and everything you believe it to stand for, its history and heritage.

Which is why john ward will always receive a clap from me and I enjoyed his tenure, Holloway is a nasty piece of gas scum who would se the club you love go down the pan with a smile on his face and a beer in his hand.

If you dont know or cant see that I would genuinely question what you have been doing in your 55 year reign.

I cant believe how quickly people sell out and for go any kind of principles. The bloke openly doesnt like you or your club and if he wasnt a professional footballer would've been escorted past the miners to n sep 4th calling you a ******.

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Dont you see that blindly following a club, claiming its support, is being a plastic fan?

When were called Rovers of Bristol FC, play in blue and white and the letter co.es through your door asking you to bend over for the owner at the next home game, are you still going to trot out a line about 55 years of support and this makes you a true fan? Because everyone else will just think you idiot. Have some principles and dignity.

There has to be a line.

A change of name, a change to blue, Holloway. These are some lines we should never cross if we are to keep a shred of pride and dignity.

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Is all this negativity because he would be the manager? Would the same apply if he had joined as a player in years gone by? Fans not turning up for years at a time?

Just curious, is there evidence elsewhere of significant sections of a fan base staying away for months or years because of a managerial appointment, then returning later in droves? Or is this potentially unique to us?

The whole idea doesn't sit easy with me at all but I couldn't say I wouldn't go to games. A decent bit of success and thats maybe 5 years without my club.

I think if football can leave you that worked up then a few relaxation techniques are called for.

Choose to hate it, but don't give up on the club for years at a time. It really isn't personal.

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Let's look at his jobs:

Bristol Rovers - play offs, mid table, sacked. FAIL

QPR - relegated, promoted, mid table, sacked. EVENS

Plymouth - quit to go to Leicester and later admitted to being dishonest - FAIL

Leicester - relegated, sacked - FAIL

Blackpool - promoted, relegated, play offs, left. - SUCCESS

Crystal Palace - promoted, left. EVENS

To qualify the last one, he signed so many players in the summer and made a right mess of things and then resigned as he couldn't handle it. Hardly an overall success.

So, one success out of six.

Amazing that some fans want this man at our club.

 

I think that's harsh - I'd say he succeeded for the most part at Rovers and QPR too, even if ultimately ended on a bit of a sour note with both clubs.  He also did a very, very good job at Plymouth before - admittedly - leaving in contentious circumstances.

 

But crucially his last season in Blackpool ended very badly, Palace struggled to promotion based mostly on Freedman's work and then he seems to lose enthusiasm quickly when things went wrong.  Holloway's had a good career and up to a couple of years ago, I'd have said - Rovers connection aside - he'd have been an excellent choice.  But the Holloway of the last couple of years isn't the Holloway who got Blackpool promoted or did well at Rovers or QPR or Plymouth.  I think he'd struggle - and that's nothing to do with his previous allegiances.

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You brought into question my support for this club, I hate that when others do that to other supporters too, a cheap shot. You seem to be obsessed with everything that is not to do with football NOW, but just petty childish dislike for someone because of what happened many years ago.

 

If Holloway is not appointed then it should be for the right reasons, however I will say that his appointment if it did happen would be   a brave move by the Board, but I can't really see it happening..

 

You rhetoric is full of hate, I really despair that in this day and age it is still  kicking around like a throw back from the past when football rivalry was just an excuse for a punch up, just why Bristol should be affected with this is a mystery, perhaps though when you look at where both teams are currently there is a clue!! We need to move on educate yourself, think before you open your gob, sure there will be those that will support you on here, there always will, but we need to get real, Oh! and BTW it's 2013

Never questioned your support as I too dont like it. If support is deemed by how many games you attend then for one reason or another I am way down the list.

I questioned what is to support and what fans actually believe in. Blindy following is not imo great support.

As for hate, well I'm afraid its too late for me. Football is the only irrational part of my life and im afraid I am a product of the time then. Maybe it will all be different in the future, maybe not.

All I know is love and hate are born of the same passion. You cannot ask me to care for sometjing as I much as I do the super redsand then turn off how I feel about other things.

On this point of Holloway, we will gave to agree to disagree.

I will respect your podition, but like it or not I feel passionate about this subject.

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You talk of dignity and yet you personally seem bereft of that one thing.

I thought that too in retrospect.

But when you're passionate about something, sometimes things dont come across asyou wish.

Maybe thats Holloways excuse as to why he says what he does about us.

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