East End Old Boy Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Do you know how to use quotation marks? And yes, thanks for pointing out that I did indeed like it, it was a mistake of mine. Go on then give me an "English" lesson as "you" "are" "so" "*******" "clever" "!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 FYI that's leftwing bollox, there is little evidence to support this it started on facebook. Other than people who knew Osborbe at Oxford. The FCS - at the time led by BBC political editor Nick Robinson - DID produce Hang Mandela t-shirts (I've seen them) and Gideon's contemporaries said he had one. He had an interesting time at "varsity"; living with a Colombian prostitute and being keen on the odd gramme of "Nigella". Just imagine the Mail if a Milliband had led a similar youth?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy31 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 http://americanfreepress.net/?p=11873 Any thoughts on this? You are choosing to quote an article in the American Free Press. Really? This is a website and newspaper that carries holocaust denial stories and 9/11 conspiracy stories as if it is real news. And, by the way, the Jews killed JFK. It is hateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Other than people who knew Osborbe at Oxford. The FCS - at the time led by BBC political editor Nick Robinson - DID produce Hang Mandela t-shirts (I've seen them) and Gideon's contemporaries said he had one. He had an interesting time at "varsity"; living with a Colombian prostitute and being keen on the odd gramme of "Nigella".Just imagine the Mail if a Milliband had led a similar youth?! Wow that would stretch even TFR's imagination, funny as ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Have you been to South Africa recently? Considering it hasn't quite got as bad as Zimbabwe, and the fact it is safe to go on holiday. I think it's better than back when Mandela was trying to change this don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Well how deep do you want to go ? I'll start by saying I'd imagine a lot of black players, for instance, are inspired by him. Anyway why should English football be so insular ? English football should just concentrate on English football. There are other arenas for discussing events of sociological or political interest. There are too mamy of these sentimental silences or minutes applauses these days. They are mostly all bullshit. Everybody is going to die one day. He's been brain dead for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Considering it hasn't quite got as bad as Zimbabwe, and the fact it is safe to go on holiday. I think it's better than back when Mandela was trying to change this don't you?Hmmm you think? Not many countries, in fact none where car hire companies warn you to stay in gear at traffic lights at night because of car jackings. Only country I have been to with car jacking hot spot warning signs. Edit I forgot to mention the great whites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portland Bill Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 English football should just concentrate on English football. There are other arenas for discussing events of sociological or political interest. There are too mamy of these sentimental silences or minutes applauses these days. They are mostly all bullshit. Everybody is going to die one day. He's been brain dead for some time. English football hasn't concentrated on English football for years The Premier League is now 70% foreign for instance. We are constantly told it's a " global brand" now and has a massive following in countries like South Africa,for instance! But I do agree with you re the minute silences/applauses and think they should only be for major disasters or someone from your own club that has passed away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 On the news now people are gathering at Nelson Mandela House...oop, there's Del Boy come out to tell them all to **** Off! Peace and reconciliation no matter what went before is what he'll be remembered for, by most anyway. The boy sure had a bit of thinking time, didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davros Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 English football should just concentrate on English football. There are other arenas for discussing events of sociological or political interest. There are too mamy of these sentimental silences or minutes applauses these days. They are mostly all bullshit. Everybody is going to die one day. He's been brain dead for some time. Cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cambridge Batch Red Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 What about Winnie Mandela's football team? Remember them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Cold.Is it? I have heard stories from our extended family that had loved ones killed by Mandela's off shoot of the ANC. If they were at the game, what do reckon their opinion of the minutes silence would be? Apparently they were in the wrong shopping centre at the wrong time. Mr Mandela used to be cold and calculating. I am sure there are those out there that remember that side, over the forgiving side of a elderly man. I kniw this has deviated from football minutes silence per se. But not everyone will agree with it is the point I am making, so a minutes silence should not be forced on people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Is it? I have heard stories from our extended family that had loved ones killed by Mandela's off shoot of the ANC. If they were at the game, what do reckon their opinion of the minutes silence would be? Apparently they were in the wrong shopping centre at the wrong time. Mr Mandela used to be cold and calculating. I am sure there are those out there that remember that side of the forgiving side of a elderly man. I kniw this has deviated from football minutes silence per se. But not everyone will agree with it is the point I am making, so a minutes silence should not be forced on people. It's a minute's applause, if anyone doesn't want to clap they have that option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 It's a minute's applause, if anyone doesn't want to clap they have that option.Ah righto. Thanks for that. I guess that is better. Less awkward for any not wishing to partake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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timothy bird Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 I don't agree with a minutes silence or applause for any politician ( unless they had had something to do with Bristol city ) I was strongly opposed to suggestions of a minutes silence for Thatcher and although in general my political sympathys lie far more with mandela than Thatcher, I think honouring politicians of any political persuasion is bound to cause division amongst our support, _ an haven't we got enough of that already ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eco Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 I don't agree with a minutes silence or applause for any politician ( unless they had had something to do with Bristol city ) I was strongly opposed to suggestions of a minutes silence for Thatcher and although in general my political sympathys lie far more with mandela than Thatcher, I think honouring politicians of any political persuasion is bound to cause division amongst our support, _ an haven't we got enough of that already ? You ca't say he was just a politician though, OK he was President for three years but was 76 at the time of the election having spent most of the previous 30 years behind bars. Was not a politician, certainly in the coventional sense, before that in fact I think he was a lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 Yes,He was a lawyer, but he was also a political activist, it was for political activism that he was imprisoned, one can argue all night about whether his activism was expressed in the right way, but at the time he was imprisoned their was no way that coloured people in south africa could organise, or express their political opinion in a conventional way, but after his release the o rganisation that he was a member of was recognised as a legitimate political party, and as their leader he was elected as president, whatever his other attributes that makes him a politician in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTFiGO!?! Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 You ca't say he was just a politician though, OK he was President for three years but was 76 at the time of the election having spent most of the previous 30 years behind bars. Was not a politician, certainly in the coventional sense, before that in fact I think he was a lawyer.Lawyer, activist, prisoner, Prime Minister - they do say there's no such thing as a 'job for life' anymore. But he's up there with Lincoln, Ghandi, Therasa and all that crew in terms of legendary (genuine meaning, not popularist) status and his impact on humanity. Not just 'a politician'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted December 6, 2013 Report Share Posted December 6, 2013 I wouldn't call Theresa may legendary wtfigo? but your entitled to your opinion of course ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippy273 Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Hmmm you think? Not many countries, in fact none where car hire companies warn you to stay in gear at traffic lights at night because of car jackings. Only country I have been to with car jacking hot spot warning signs. Edit I forgot to mention the great whites Agreed there are a lot of gangs, just stay on the tour route and you can't go wrong. A girl i used to work with got held at gunpoint in Peru for money just by going 5 minutes off course. She was lucky that was all they wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Lawyer, activist, prisoner, Prime Minister - they do say there's no such thing as a 'job for life' anymore. But he's up there with Lincoln, Ghandi, Therasa and all that crew in terms of legendary (genuine meaning, not popularist) status and his impact on humanity. Not just 'a politician'. 'Er, that's not all Ghandi...that's from the time when me and Magz embraced the home-video phenonemon..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Free Nelson Mandela! It's 7 days until his state funeral. Freeze Nelson Mandela! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Lincs Red Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Legend, RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Mandela was a force for good and a great leader, but not a politician. Nelson was a man of the highest integrity with strong beliefs and principles; forgiving, wise, dignified and humble. None of these apply to politicians. Politicians are power-hungry, self-serving liars with inflated egos. RIP Nelson Mandela. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidersnotjustforbreakfast Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Well said indeed bj , 100% agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 A lot of the sentiment on this thread is proof that the world is not a fair place: NOT FAIR at all ............. Mandela gets a state funeral, and all SOD got was the door hitting him on the arse on the way out. Life is cruel indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Fred Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 Myself, personally, "I've never met a nice South Afrikaan." wasnt that "spitting image??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakoe Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 wasnt that "spitting image??? Not The Nine O'clock News I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Right Honourable Les Q Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 wasnt that "spitting image??? Not The Nine O'clock News I think? Yes, definitely not on the Nine O' Clock news. Can confirm that, CTID. Pretty sure it was the puppets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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