Davros Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 We have 2 players on 12 league goals Mid January and were an improving team, yet some people are still not happy. If you're a good striker you make most of your chances by being in the right place, pitman was clinical but he was not in the right place all the time. Yes Sam is not getting the goals he should but seriously if he was, he would have been gone already. Its our defence and defensive midfield that have hung us out to dry this season! Roll on Kelly getting back from injury and lets hope he's half the player he was before he was injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Yep seems like a plan, hound another good player out of the club, and then we can reflect at leisure how much better we would if he was still here. manMaynard Brilliant, you can't criticise no one on this forum without hounding them out of the club and making them a scape goat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 No it wasn't, it was your bum chums lack of finishing that cost us. Hence why Baldock has got a 6 page thread where as Flint has 2. Baldock is average average average. Are you 5 years old? I mean really? My "bum chum"? Get a life mate. Let's hope we can get some more average players on board to get ~20 league goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Are you 5 years old? I mean really? My "bum chum"? Get a life mate. Let's hope we can get some more average players on board to get ~20 league goals Corleone Straight out of the playground. Bumchum giggle giggle snigger snigger. Lets have a fag around the back of the bike sheds. I do wonder the mentality of some people. Unless of course I am doung him a disservice and he is between 11 and 15 years of age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Corleone Straight out of the playground. Bumchum giggle giggle snigger snigger. Lets have a fag around the back of the bike sheds. I do wonder the mentality of some people. Unless of course I am doung him a disservice and he is between 11 and 15 years of age. The same guy who said something along the lines of Walcott deserving to have his legs broken for a bit of banter with the crowd. Enough said methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squire Dastardly Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 I suggest that Sam spends several hours next week practising one-on-ones with Frank Fielding. Let's face it, it will improve the confidence of one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 The same guy who said something along the lines of Walcott deserving to have his legs broken for a bit of banter with the crowd. Enough said methinks. Ah right. Says a lot about someones mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 no there is a 6 page thread because idiots like you bowie and taylor10 are making him a scapegoat like you always do first it was Johnson then Elliot, fontaine now its baldock its as if city fans want to destroy players simply because they are jealous of them and their ability Edit - been a decent thread so far so not rising to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUTOR Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 At the end of the day, if Baldock stayed away from injury last season he would have got 20+ goals. This season he's getting a lot more chances but for some reason isn't being as clinical goals to chances ratio wise as he was last season, but is still on course for more than 20 goals which I'm sure he'll get. Jet is a completely different matter, he can turn it on whenever he wants to, but Baldock has to work hard to score his goals, some of the runs he makes are very clever and on occasions defenders can't get near him. He doesn't have the natural ability of Jet but he works his socks off for the team, which is why him and Jet compliment each other as a strike partnership. So for those saying drop Jet or Baldock, be careful what you wish for. We have a strike partnership that is in the top three in this league, and without either of those two starting regularly I think we'll begin to struggle. One thing I would say however is take the armband off Baldock and see what happens. He doesn't strike me as a leader if I'm honest, and maybe it is that extra bit of pressure that is preventing him from scoring the majority of these missed chances. Also, stop bloody insulting each other and keep this discussion about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Oh, and for what it's worth, according to the stats Baldock has scored 20.6% of his shots this season. In comparison to the top premier league scorers, Aguero is a wee bit more clinical at 28%, whereas Suarez is 25.9%. Not exactly ground breaking is it. Looks like they both have plenty of efforts that don't result in goals too, the difference is their teams are challenging for the premier league whilst we are languishing at the bottom of division 3. No one would be talking about this if we had conceded fewer and got more points on the board. Not interested in the Premier League? How about our own league then. Let's look at those who have scored more than Baldock: Ryan Lowe - 42% Britt Assombalonga - 23.2% Sam Baldock - 20.6% Leon Clarke - 20% Nakhi Wells - 19.2% Callum Wilson - 18.9% Patrick Bamford - 16.9% Clayton Donaldson - 16.8% What does this tell us? Lowe (bit of a freak stat, that one) is well ahead of the trend in terms of clinical finishing, but of the others, only Assombalonga has been more clinical than Baldock this season. Funnily enough, Patrick Bamford and Nakhi Wells - both mentioned in this thread as prolific strikers and both transferred to a higher league - have been less prolific than Baldock this season. Don't know about Lowe, does he take penalties, have Tranmere had a lot of them? He's had an incredibly low number of shots compared to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Totally agree about the armband, this adds pressure, he has to much time with one on ones, i bet he thinks id better not miss! He wouldn't lose face by taking it off of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Oh, and for what it's worth, according to the stats Baldock has scored 20.6% of his shots this season. In comparison to the top premier league scorers, Aguero is a wee bit more clinical at 28%, whereas Suarez is 25.9%. Not exactly ground breaking is it. Looks like they both have plenty of efforts that don't result in goals too, the difference is their teams are challenging for the premier league whilst we are languishing at the bottom of division 3. No one would be talking about this if we had conceded fewer and got more points on the board. Not interested in the Premier League? How about our own league then. Let's look at those who have scored more than Baldock: Ryan Lowe - 42% Britt Assombalonga - 23.2%Sam Baldock - 20.6% Leon Clarke - 20% Nakhi Wells - 19.2% Callum Wilson - 18.9% Patrick Bamford - 16.9% Clayton Donaldson - 16.8% What does this tell us? Lowe (bit of a freak stat, that one) is well ahead of the trend in terms of clinical finishing, but of the others, only Assombalonga has been more clinical than Baldock this season. Funnily enough, Patrick Bamford and Nakhi Wells - both mentioned in this thread as prolific strikers and both transferred to a higher league - have been less prolific than Baldock this season. Oh bugger don't go all factual on peoples asses. That will result in name calling. Now this 22 one on ones missed. Still waiting for proof from those saying it is so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Oh bugger don't go all factual on peoples asses. That will result in name calling. Now this 22 one on ones missed. Still waiting for proof from those saying it is so. It's just funny isn't it. People jump on the "unclinical" bandwagon, and he's been one of the most clinical in the league. But hey, let's not let facts get in the way, they don't mean anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob k Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 It's just funny isn't it. People jump on the "unclinical" bandwagon, and he's been one of the most clinical in the league. But hey, let's not let facts get in the way, they don't mean anything. You surley have seen the same games as me, the ones where SB has missed very easy chances he should have scored?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 It's just funny isn't it. People jump on the "unclinical" bandwagon, and he's been one of the most clinical in the league. But hey, let's not let facts get in the way, they don't mean anything. Indeed. He misses chances, so do many others. But only Bristol City would he be moaned at and called shit. I wonder what Peterborough and Bradford fans were saying abouttheirtop goal scorers? Wells shit drop him assongalonga spl shit drop him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 You surley have seen the same games as me, the ones where SB has missed very easy chances he should have scored?? I don't disagree that he's missed chances that he should have done better at. But the stats don't lie, he's one of the most clinical finishers in the league in terms of goals to chances. What that does show is that the other "top strikers" that everyone gushes over - Bamford, Wells, Donaldson etc miss a greater proportion of their attempts than Baldock does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 You surley have seen the same games as me, the ones where SB has missed very easy chances he should have scored?? So do other teams top marksman. You reckon they get the bile and even booing Baldock has got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corleone Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 To think we sacrificed 1.5 million for him. Clearly that was a very poor piece of business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 To think we sacrificed 1.5 million for him. Clearly that was a very poor piece of business. Maybe. Hardly the players fault though is it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corleone Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Maybe. Hardly the players fault though is it?! Absolutely not, clearly he is an average league 1 striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tins Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 To think we sacrificed 1.5 million for him. Clearly that was a very poor piece of business. How? He's the joint 7th top scorer in the league, he's only 24. If we had a good defence we'd fly up the league, he scored 2 yesterday, yes he missed a few but it wasn't his fault we conceded 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Absolutely not, clearly he is an average league 1 striker. Like Wells and Bamford, who were both less clinical whilst in League One? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 So do other teams top marksman. You reckon they get the bile and even booing Baldock has got? Booing? Where have you heard that? I've not heard it at Ashton Gate. Plenty of "******* hell Baldock" shouts but no booing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 How? He's the joint 7th top scorer in the league, he's only 24. If we had a good defence we'd fly up the league, he scored 2 yesterday, yes he missed a few but it wasn't his fault we conceded 2. Don't waste your breath, it's like talking to a piece of plywood. Clearly he has a personal agenda, because the stats have killed his argument dead in the water, yet it continues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Booing? Where have you heard that? I've not heard it at Ashton Gate. Plenty of "******* hell Baldock" shouts but no booing. Two people near me yesterday booed Baldock as he walked off at half time. Embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Booing? Where have you heard that? I've not heard it at Ashton Gate. Plenty of "******* hell Baldock" shouts but no booing. A lot of ironic chants, sarcastic comments around me in the Atyeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynriley Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 Two people near me yesterday booed Baldock as he walked off at half time. Embarrassing. One of the didn't have an Italian sounding name by any chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 A lot of ironic chants, sarcastic comments around me in the Atyeo It must make you wonder what goes through his head. Joint club top scorer in the league, one of the highest (and most clinical) scorers in the division overall - despite playing in a team looking like relegation material for much of the season - and you hear people booing you off? People talk about a confidence issue...I wonder what the cause of that could be?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 One of the didn't have an Italian sounding name by any chance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted January 19, 2014 Report Share Posted January 19, 2014 How? He's the joint 7th top scorer in the league, he's only 24. If we had a good defence we'd fly up the league, he scored 2 yesterday, yes he missed a few but it wasn't his fault we conceded 2. Ui had a look at his goals. There is only 1 game (Coventry) where his goals haven't got us a point or 3. So we can argue that his misses have cost us pounts. But the goals he has scored have helped keep us in contention for a chance of getting out of relegation. He has set up a fair few as well. I haven't looked at those stats. But goals scored he has got us about 16 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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