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Nigel Farage V Nick Clegg....


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He was on Sunday Politics, Gobbers. On the EU loving propaganda channel.

 

I have encountered clips from infowars posted here as if the guy is some sort of rational commentator on world events, but the more you read about him, the more of a nutter he seems:

 

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Alex_Jones

 

No mention there of the BBC golden boy - Tony Blair - the current Middle East 'peace envoy' that advocates war with various Middle Eastern states that don't fit with his agenda. The BBC were advocating war with President Assad's Syria - a bit of disappointment at BBC Broadcasting House that Britain didn't get involved.

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Alex Jones seems pretty mainstream to me unlike our crank traitor Lib-Lab-Con politicians and business leaders that have sold us out to the EU project. Herr Adolf Hitler could have taken this country without a shot being fired if our current traitor politicians and business leaders had been around in 1939. Adolf could have offered them a few million Reichmarks bribe and a little trade deal with his Turd Reich and those present day Lib-Lab-Con traitors would have duly signed on the dotted line.

 

 

This lot would have!

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Club

 

There was an interesting documentary about this on licence-fee funded Channel 4 recently. Did you see it Churchill And The Fascist Plot it was called.

 

 

Very interesting programme about a part of British history that's often unreported. You might still be able to watch it on 4od.

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I thought you were a Hamas man, D?  ;)

 

Hummus maybe, I am more right than left leaning, sometimes I lean left, somtimes right, depends what the topic is, I voted Conservative until David Cameron arrived, and I have voted LibDem and was nurtured Labour.

 

I dont really want to vote for any of the main parties at the moment, the breed of politician we have at the moment makes me want to cut myself.

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No mention there of the BBC golden boy - Tony Blair - the current Middle East 'peace envoy' that advocates war with various Middle Eastern states that don't fit with his agenda. The BBC were advocating war with President Assad's Syria - a bit of disappointment at BBC Broadcasting House that Britain didn't get involved.

 

 

Curse that al-Qaeda stooge, Lord Hall of Birkenhead.

 

Can't trust they grammar school kids, eh RG?

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Hummus maybe, I am more right than left leaning, sometimes I lean left, somtimes right, depends what the topic is, I voted Conservative until David Cameron arrived, and I have voted LibDem and was nurtured Labour.

 

I dont really want to vote for any of the main parties at the moment, the breed of politician we have at the moment makes me want to cut myself.

 

Political 'Left' and 'Right' is a product of a BBC political news and views film set and their 'swing- o-meter' - although they'd argue that it's to do with Revolutionary France. Strictly speaking 'Left' is 'collectivism' and 'Right' is 'individualism'. Former EU Fuhrer Herr Adolf Hitler is 'left wing' for this reason.

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Political 'Left' and 'Right' is a product of a BBC political news and views film set and their 'swing- o-meter' - although they'd argue that it's to do with Revolutionary France. Strictly speaking 'Left' is 'collectivism' and 'Right' is 'individualism'. Former EU Fuhrer Herr Adolf Hitler is 'left wing' for this reason.

 

 

You can be from the authoritarian right, or indeed, the countercultural left.  Hitler was an extreme version of the former. It's worth noting the Nazis purged the "Strasserite" more socialist elements of the party in 1933.

 

This is what Joseph Bendersky says about them:  The Nazis claimed that communism was dangerous to the well-being of nations because of its intention to dissolve private property,  its support of  class war, its aggression against the middle class,  its hostility towards small businessmen, and its atheism. Nazism rejected class-based socialism and economic egalatarianism, instead favouring a stratified economy with social classes based on merit and talent, retaining private property and the creation of national solidarity that transcends class distinctions. 

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You can be from the authoritarian right, or indeed, the countercultural left.  Hitler was an extreme version of the former. It's worth noting the Nazis purged the "Strasserite" more socialist elements of the party in 1933.

 

This is what Joseph Bendersky says about them:  The Nazis claimed that communism was dangerous to the well-being of nations because of its intention to dissolve private property,  its support of  class war, its aggression against the middle class,  its hostility towards small businessmen, and its atheism. Nazism rejected class-based socialism and economic egalatarianism, instead favouring a stratified economy with social classes based on merit and talent, retaining private property and the creation of national solidarity that transcends class distinctions. 

 

Nazism sounds good on paper until we remember that the Nazi EU 3rd Reichers under the name of 'Einsatzgruppen' and other variously named German death squads targetted defenceless civilians in the German occupied East and sometimes West. These Germans even managed to build death camps on the German occupied Channel Island of Alderney - this was British sovereign territory until illegally occupied by Germans. Still no BBC televized apology from the German government for using occupied British lands for this purpose.

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So, did anyone watch the documentary? Nigel came across very well (though I still find him intensely irritating), but I have never seen anything so overtly biased towards a politician and political party on national TV. Hardly surprising given it was made by a film maker who's anti-EU and loves a bit of sensationalism. There was no balance and any dissenting views were edited into ridicule. At the end, after 5 minutes of talking up UKIPs chances in Wythenshawe, it ended without mentioning that they failed to win while Labour increased their majority. I genuinely agree that if UKIP have a level of support they should be allowed a platform, but this was something else entirely

I'd be interested to know what others who watched it felt. Perhaps I'm just reading too much into it?

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So, did anyone watch the documentary? Nigel came across very well (though I still find him intensely irritating), but I have never seen anything so overtly biased towards a politician and political party on national TV. Hardly surprising given it was made by a film maker who's anti-EU and loves a bit of sensationalism. There was no balance and any dissenting views were edited into ridicule. At the end, after 5 minutes of talking up UKIPs chances in Wythenshawe, it ended without mentioning that they failed to win while Labour increased their majority. I genuinely agree that if UKIP have a level of support they should be allowed a platform, but this was something else entirely

I'd be interested to know what others who watched it felt. Perhaps I'm just reading too much into it?

 

The Labour Party's top pseudo socialist and EU loving traitor - Lord Neil Kinnock - was featured and he came across as being an intensely irritating self serving Welsh plutocrat.......or - more bluntly - a complete jumped up arsehole. In contrast, Nigel Farage came across as a fag smoking and beer drinking man of the people. It was interesting to see Nigel Farage in his local pub liaising with local working people - I can't imagine Labour's Ed Milipede being seen dead in a working man's pub oooop North where the bulk of Labour's voters live.

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The Labour Party's top pseudo socialist and EU loving traitor - Lord Neil Kinnock - was featured and he came across as being an intensely irritating self serving Welsh plutocrat.......or - more bluntly - a complete jumped up arsehole. In contrast, Nigel Farage came across as a fag smoking and beer drinking man of the people. It was interesting to see Nigel Farage in his local pub liaising with local working people - I can't imagine Labour's Ed Milipede being seen dead in a working man's pub oooop North where the bulk of Labour's voters live.

Neil Kinnock is a prat, but was featured struggling to answer a question that we never even heard Durkin ask. It was an utterly biased piece of film making. I agree that Mr Ferauge came across very well, but he could hardly not given the pitch of the film. And I imagine that most of the working people in the wealthy London commuter village of Downe ain't at the lower end of the pay scale (though of course there are people of all walks of life in every town and I have no reason to suspect Nige isn't friends with them)
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Neil Kinnock is a prat, but was featured struggling to answer a question that we never even heard Durkin ask. It was an utterly biased piece of film making. I agree that Mr Ferauge came across very well, but he could hardly not given the pitch of the film. And I imagine that most of the working people in the wealthy London commuter village of Downe ain't at the lower end of the pay scale (though of course there are people of all walks of life in every town and I have no reason to suspect Nige isn't friends with them)

 

He's Mr Nigel Fartage to me - the man that's causing a big stink for all our EU loving Lib-Lab-Con politicians. :D

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I understand Nige's love of beer is all done for the benefit of the cameras. An agreeable claret is his usual tipple in the Reform - his London "gentleman's club".

 

It's a well-worn "man of the people" schtick that worked well for Ken Clarke in the past.

 

Not that I'm sayting anyone should judge the man on what he drinks. It's the policies that matter, not the presentation.

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I understand Nige's love of beer is all done for the benefit of the cameras. An agreeable claret is his usual tipple in the Reform - his London "gentleman's club".

It's a well-worn "man of the people" schtick that worked well for Ken Clarke in the past.

Not that I'm sayting anyone should judge the man on what he drinks. It's the policies that matter, not the presentation.

Who'd have thought it! Public school educated, gentlemens club-frequenting, former city of London employee Nigel Farage has more things in common with the 'establishment' than he lets on! ;-)
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I think the lib dems pro eu stance is untenable not having any control on immigration is starting to grate.

You might find that a funny position from a man who married an African national but the knock on effect of open eu is a closing down of and increased complexity around my wife's status. Its bizarre we have a very almost professional abuse from the Indians and Pakistanis completely open with the eu and nearly impossible with the rest of the world.

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Interesting effects in France as the people vote in droves for the anti-EU FN.

Highest tally ever - and incumbent socialist  politicians are thrown by the wayside as the EU loving party of apologists panic........

This is the result of people becoming angry enough to vote.

Finally in the UK, people are so angry with the EU, unfettered immigration and wars that are nothing to do with us, that they are voting for change.

 

If UKIP do as well as expected in Europe - watch the EU loving LIb/Lab/Con parties do the same.

First casualty the Lib Dems?

 

Yep, the Socialists are making a real mess of things over there. Marine le Pen has done a good job, from her point of view, in de-demonising the Front National. The working man and woman has voted for her in droves. It amazes me that the same hasn't yet happened here with the massive issue of cheap immigrant labour taking unskilled work. I can understand the Labour party supporting the EU as it loves the big state and state control but not the working man. The working man doesn't seem to be quite so actively engaged by politics over here and will turn out to do what their parents and grandparents did before them. Maybe things are about to change.

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Political 'Left' and 'Right' is a product of a BBC political news and views film set and their 'swing- o-meter' - although they'd argue that it's to do with Revolutionary France. Strictly speaking 'Left' is 'collectivism' and 'Right' is 'individualism'. Former EU Fuhrer Herr Adolf Hitler is 'left wing' for this reason.

 

You are absolutely correct. The main political debate should be about the size of the state. Sparta or Athens, Chairman Mao or Adam Smith ?

If we continue down the road of building this huge European superstate one day it will fall under the control of an heir to Hitler.

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What about Brown selling off a huge amount of gold when it was at a very low price ?

 

Excellent point, and this was mentioned by Nigel Farage to Gordon Brown in the European Parliament. All Gordon Brown could do was laugh like a clown when he was confronted with this fact. Gordon Brown lost our country a fortune by selling off our gold reserves at a record low.

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Just what are you saying Robbo?! What you're implying would be akin to the wives of various government ministers buying loads of shares in private health care providers mere days before the NHS was turned into a 'market' and said firms were given lucrative government contracts...

 

It might even be found that various ministers have shares in Goldman Sachs and the other advisor companies. Whatever next!

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