old_eastender Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Cotterill may not be the answer, but really I think El-Abd and W Elliott are no worse or better than Shorey and Harewood. I think both managers have made mistakes in their own way, but I don't think there was some golden age under the past manager. We're now in the same place he left us, no better, no worse. Anyway, they clearly won't sack Cotterill this season. So, move Osborne centrally and bring back Moloney? Rest JET and start Burns? There are options, but we have to take them as this line-up clearly isn't working. Initially Cotts seemed to be improving things, better results and better football, it all went tits-up when the board allowed him to rubbish our stated transfer policy and bring in El Bad on a 3.5 year contract - that's exactly the sort of thing that landed us in the mire before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 I cannot believe I'm about to type this, but if Warnock is still available and interested? I think we need to go knock on his door and ask for some help! I want someone I can get behind, someone who will fight for this club, someone who inspires me and more importantly the players. If you have ever read any of my posts, I would say I am one for giving people time and being patient. Generally stay level headed about things. But I'm afraid my patience has run out, I've had enough, I'm embarrassed. I'm not sure what type of football he would bring to the gate, but I know he would demand some pride at the very least and at the minute I would grab that with both hands. What has happened to this bloody club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneManMob Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Warnock was never interested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 I cannot believe I'm about to type this, but if Warnock is still available and interested? I think we need to go knock on his door and ask for some help! I want someone I can get behind, someone who will fight for this club, someone who inspires me and more importantly the players. If you have ever read any of my posts, I would say I am one for giving people time and being patient. Generally stay level headed about things. But I'm afraid my patience has run out, I've had enough, I'm embarrassed. I'm not sure what type of football he would bring to the gate, but I know he would demand some pride at the very least and at the minute I would grab that with both hands. What has happened to this bloody club? Common Denominator = Board of Directors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who Are Rovers? Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Warnock was never interested Think you'll find he confirmed he was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Cotterill may not be the answer, but really I think El-Abd and W Elliott are no worse or better than Shorey and Harewood. I think both managers have made mistakes in their own way, but I don't think there was some golden age under the past manager. We're now in the same place he left us, no better, no worse. Anyway, they clearly won't sack Cotterill this season. So, move Osborne centrally and bring back Moloney? Rest JET and start Burns? There are options, but we have to take them as this line-up clearly isn't working. Fair point. I didn't mean to suggest SOD was in any way a golden age. The results were awful for the most part and, as I said, he didn't seem to motivate the squad. What I do think is he brought in a group of players in order to play a certain way and, if we'd got a manger in to build on that, we'd be be in a better position than bringing in a manager who seems to be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. There were, of course, several things that needed to be improved from the SOD era but I'm just not convinced Cotterill is improving them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyRed Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Warnick is NOT the answer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Red-Robbo Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Initially Cotts seemed to be improving things, better reuslts and better football, it all went tits-up when the board allowed him to rubbish our stated tarnsfer policy and bring in El Bad on a 3.5 year contract - that's exactly the sort of thing that landed us in the mire before! Isn't Keith Burt supposed to be in charge of that? And if he has no say in these transfers why is he here? What a waste of money. As I say, we had overage players brought in under SOD. Can't say I was thrilled when I saw Shorey playing back then. Is El-Abd the problem here today though? I'd like a considered opinion from someone there as to why we are plywood flimsy befoire their attacks and why we haven't got a decent shot in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Sorry, more like when we appointed SOD - the worst City manager of all time. F uck ,why do i feel the need to defend SOD. May be because despite the terrible results under him I am sure he would have got us where we want to be in time.His problem was that the board who hired him,did n't actually like him ( evidently they thought he was a 'cheeky chappy' ) he obviously changed his personality overnight. No one wanted to hear the truth when he spoke and if he lacked charisma and diplomacy at least he knew something about football and how to get teams promoted from this division. He was ,iMHO ,let down by the board who told him to reduce the wage bill and left him high and dry when he needed their support. i am really fed up with all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Think you'll find he confirmed he was He confirmed he would have been if an opportunity had come up at the right time in the past. He's said several times that he does not want to manage now. Our fans just choose to ignore that repeatedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Warnock was never interested I'm fairly sure that he did admit to speaking to SL. So if they had a chat, he must of had some interest I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red-Robbo Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Fair point. I didn't mean to suggest SOD was in any way a golden age. The results were awful for the most part and, as I said, he didn't seem to motivate the squad. What I do think is he brought in a group of players in order to play a certain way and, if we'd got a manger in to build on that, we'd be be in a better position than bringing in a manager who seems to be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. There were, of course, several things that needed to be improved from the SOD era but I'm just not convinced Cotterill is improving them. Me neither LB.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betelgeuse Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 City Line up Smileys are fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBristolian Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Initially Cotts seemed to be improving things, better results and better football, it all went tits-up when the board allowed him to rubbish our stated transfer policy and bring in El Bad on a 3.5 year contract - that's exactly the sort of thing that landed us in the mire before! Initially McInnes, Millen and SOD all seemed to be improving things too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Pitiful, lamentable and downright useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Warnock should've come in at the time of Cott's appointment. My opinion on that is unequivocal. But now Cotts is here I think we need to stick until Xmas, whether we are league one or otherwise. No point sacking now in my opinion. I think we are going down, we look like going, and deserve to go. There is no one out there I believe can save us between now and the end, and no-one who I'd appoint long-term. So why pay him off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldstandrobin Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 City Line up Smileys are fun want a job ?? seems a good selection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshtonGreat Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 F uck ,why do i feel the need to defend SOD. May be because despite the terrible results under him I am sure he would have got us where we want to be in time.His problem was that the board who hired him,did n't actually like him ( evidently they thought he was a 'cheeky chappy' ) he obviously changed his personality overnight. No one wanted to hear the truth when he spoke and if he lacked charisma and diplomacy at least he knew something about football and how to get teams promoted from this division. He was ,iMHO ,let down by the board who told him to reduce the wage bill and left him high and dry when he needed their support. i am really fed up with all this. Personally I didn't like him. He just had no charm or likeability factor. It doesn't take much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Isn't Keith Burt supposed to be in charge of that? And if he has no say in these transfers why is he here? What a waste of money. As I say, we had overage players brought in under SOD. Can't say I was thrilled when I saw Shorey playing back then. Is El-Abd the problem here today though? I'd like a considered opinion from someone there as to why we are plywood flimsy befoire their attacks and why we haven't got a decent shot in. Any chance the midfield is the problem allowing the defence to be near constantly be over run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handballbygordonparr Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 I cannot believe I'm about to type this, but if Warnock is still available and interested? I think we need to go knock on his door and ask for some help! I want someone I can get behind, someone who will fight for this club, someone who inspires me and more importantly the players. If you have ever read any of my posts, I would say I am one for giving people time and being patient. Generally stay level headed about things. But I'm afraid my patience has run out, I've had enough, I'm embarrassed. I'm not sure what type of football he would bring to the gate, but I know he would demand some pride at the very least and at the minute I would grab that with both hands. What has happened to this bloody club? +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenkibby. Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 clueless, we're f...in doomed. never ever in the game by the sound of it. can't see anyway that we wont be relegated again!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 City Line up Smileys are fun Hahaha. Good effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 We had the chance with WarnockSimple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcfcbs20 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Fu## off City thanks for ruining my weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timothy bird Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Is anybody on here who laughed and applauded lansdowne when he boasted about not appointing Warnock feeling not quite so clever now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristol south end Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Waiting to hear a match report from someone who was there. I cannot listen to us on the radio. The commentary is terrible at best. But from what I have read on the bbc, we sounded 2nd best all game, creating nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon79 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Warnick is NOT the answer... I want some pride back, I want something to believe in. I can live with going down, but not like this. Not without a fight. It's embarrassing, no other word describes it. Warnock would give me most of these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksred Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 F uck ,why do i feel the need to defend SOD. May be because despite the terrible results under him I am sure he would have got us where we want to be in time.His problem was that the board who hired him,did n't actually like him ( evidently they thought he was a 'cheeky chappy' ) he obviously changed his personality overnight. No one wanted to hear the truth when he spoke and if he lacked charisma and diplomacy at least he knew something about football and how to get teams promoted from this division. He was ,iMHO ,let down by the board who told him to reduce the wage bill and left him high and dry when he needed their support. i am really fed up with all this. The bloke was one of the numerous problems here at the Gate. I have no sympathy for him, his dour personality and downbeat negativity got on an awful lot of city fans tits..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepers Ball Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Warnick is NOT the answer...Bollocks !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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