Fordy62 Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, TonyTonyTony said: On the plus side they have a ginge dressed like a knob playing live halfway through Is this for real? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Isn't it so they can sell it to the Americans? So much easier working in groups of 5 rather than 6. Now it's going metric we could sell it to the EU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 So you have to bowl in overs of 5? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: So you have to bowl in overs of 5? Or 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 I’ve been as disparaging as anyone about the hundred but now it’s started will give it a chance. So far the kids at my cricket club seem to be loving it and it’s on the BBC so they can all watch it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 On 19/07/2021 at 11:21, slartibartfast said: Look, when we went to Lords all those times (and won) the amount of City shirts on view far, far outweighed the slags, but then, that's what you'd expect. A microcosm of Bristol in general ! Remember being a kid at Lords and celebrating with Gasheads in 99 when we beat Somerset. Bittersweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 45 minutes ago, Midred said: Isn't it so they can sell it to the Americans? So much easier working in groups of 5 rather than 6. Now it's going metric we could sell it to the EU! Broader younger demographic, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Would've been better if all 10 players (exception of the wicketkeeper) had to bowl 10 balls, just to make it a little more interesting. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 54 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I don’t know who to support. Well the team representing Gloucestershire and Somerset is..... Welsh Fire. They really didn't think that one through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, GodEmperor Palpatine said: Remember being a kid at Lords and celebrating with Gasheads in 99 when we beat Somerset. Bittersweet. I certainly remember going on the pitch in front of the balcony and all you could see were celebrating reds ! 15 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: I’ve been as disparaging as anyone about the hundred but now it’s started will give it a chance. So far the kids at my cricket club seem to be loving it and it’s on the BBC so they can all watch it Fine ,if that's the way you feel. In that case why have you all been disenfranchised by not having a team to support ( and don't say Welsh Fire ,for ***** sake ) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, BS2 Red said: Well the team representing Gloucestershire and Somerset is..... Welsh Fire. They really didn't think that one through. I'm not sure the teams represent anyone. Tom Lammonby is playing for Manchester! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: I certainly remember going on the pitch in front of the balcony and all you could see were celebrating reds ! Fine ,if that's the way you feel. In that case why have you all been disenfranchised by not having a team to support ( and don't say Welsh Fire ,for ***** sake ) ? Enjoyed last nights game and enjoying tonight’s game. Don’t think you need a team to support, same as when watching Prem football. Ultimately if kids are enjoying it then it’s successful in my eyes. My kids cricket team are all talking about it on their WhatsApp group 10 minutes ago, BS2 Red said: Well the team representing Gloucestershire and Somerset is..... Welsh Fire. They really didn't think that one through. Don’t think it really works like that in franchise cricket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Enjoyed last nights game and enjoying tonight’s game. Don’t think you need a team to support, same as when watching Prem football. Ultimately if kids are enjoying it then it’s successful in my eyes. My kids cricket team are all talking about it on their WhatsApp group Don’t think it really works like that in franchise cricket. Surprised Bristol didn't get a franchise tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Midred said: I'm not sure the teams represent anyone. 9 minutes ago, And Its Smith said: Don’t think it really works like that in franchise cricket. It's how it was when this competition was announced. There was even talk of the team being renamed (Western Fire I think) to avoid alienating the Glos and Somerset fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperor Palpatine Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, BS2 Red said: It's how it was when this competition was announced. There was even talk of the team being renamed (Western Fire I think) to avoid alienating the Glos and Somerset fans. They could've stuck with that given Western Storm is a consortium of western counties and the Welsh cricket board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 It might be new teams but everything about the Oval Invincibles reeks of Surrey. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Fordy62 said: Can someone explain this 100 business to me? Are they just trying to out T20, T20? Basically yes. In 2003 the ECB invented T20. However, they did not properly protect it and so when it became successful other country's cricket boards copied it, and made their own tournaments (such as the IPL and Big Bash). Because the ECB had not protected the format these new leagues didn't have to license it - ie they didn't have to pay the ECB a penny to use this new format. The ECB are obviously very angry about this, and so have invented an even newer, shorter, bouncier, and louder form of cricket. This time it is protected to the hilt and if India want to have a "Hundred" league, then the ECB will be getting a slice of the pie this time, and they'll control it all as well. It's on the BBC because in 2017 the ECB sold the BBC the rights to broadcast a "new T20" competition (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jun/30/live-cricket-return-bbc-twenty20-tournament). The BBC didn't buy the Hundred, they bought a T20 competition, and the ECB then changed the product. It's honestly all just a vehicle to market crisps, and for the ECB to try and wrestle money, power, and control away from the counties and away from India and Australia. It's also a great advert for crisps. I'm not watching, there's no team in the South West to support. I've also stopped listening to Tailenders as they (as a BBC program) were plugging it incessantly and not even pretending that there might be an alternative view to that of "the Hundred is bloody brilliant isn't it". Read this and see what you think https://www.thefulltoss.com/england-cricket-blog/love-minus-a-hundred/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 minute ago, ExiledAjax said: Basically yes. In 2003 the ECB invented T20. However, they did not properly protect it and so when it became successful other country's cricket boards copied it, and made their own tournaments (such as the IPL and Big Bash). Because the ECB had not protected the format these new leagues didn't have to license it - ie they didn't have to pay the ECB a penny to use this new format. The ECB are obviously very angry about this, and so have invented an even newer, shorter, bouncier, and louder form of cricket. This time it is protected to the hilt and if India want to have a "Hundred" league, then the ECB will be getting a slice of the pie this time, and they'll control it all as well. It's on the BBC because in 2017 the ECB sold the BBC the rights to broadcast a "new T20" competition (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jun/30/live-cricket-return-bbc-twenty20-tournament). The BBC didn't buy the Hundred, they bought a T20 competition, and the ECB then changed the product. It's honestly all just a vehicle to market crisps, and for the ECB to try and wrestle money, power, and control away from the counties and away from India and Australia. It's also a great advert for crisps. I'm not watching, there's no team in the South West to support. I've also stopped listening to Tailenders as they (as a BBC program) were plugging it incessantly and not even pretending that there might be an alternative view to that of "the Hundred is bloody brilliant isn't it". Read this and see what you think https://www.thefulltoss.com/england-cricket-blog/love-minus-a-hundred/ Crisps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS2 Red Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, GodEmperor Palpatine said: They could've stuck with that given Western Storm is a consortium of western counties and the Welsh cricket board Just combine Bristol and Cardiff. Brisdiff or Cartol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 West and Welsh Whackers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 Not the Kevin Peterson fan club then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 I am not a luddite but I have just had my father in law, who only has a passing interest in cricket, excitedly explaining the rules to me and how to tead those on screen graphics. I told him to save his breath because I wont be watching again. T20 I can take, because I have a team to support and they still have recognisable scorecards and understandable tactics. This is just tinkering for the sake of ir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 1 hour ago, And Its Smith said: I’ve been as disparaging as anyone about the hundred but now it’s started will give it a chance. So far the kids at my cricket club seem to be loving it and it’s on the BBC so they can all watch it My whole thing was, create a franchise T20 competition, stick it on TV and the kids probably would have loved it as much, there was just no need for the format of 'The Hundred' other than to be different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midred Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, TomF said: There was no need for a franchise. There are 16 decent enough clubs already. Give the Blast this much money, hype and on terrestrial tv and it would be just as popular. John Player league on a Sunday afternoon used to keep me interested enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lrrr Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, TomF said: There was no need for a franchise. There are 16 decent enough clubs already. Give the Blast this much money, hype and on terrestrial tv and it would be just as popular. You don't get the same quality of team with the county system which is one principle reason behind it. So I'd have rigidly stuck to the whole group counties into 3's by locality to truly represent all of them, London at The Oval to reserve Lords for final, you then share home games between the 3 grounds, presumably 5 home games so 2,2,1 on a rotational basis. Somerset, Gloucestershire, Glamorgan Hampshire, Surrey, Sussex Middlesex, Kent, Essex Warwickshire, Worcestershire, Northamptonshire Leicestershire, Nottinghamshire, Yorkshire Lancashire, Derbyshire, Durham (just to keep the roses apart, swapping Derbyshire and Yorkshire would make more sense) Then have the whole draft where you can reserve x amount of local players, 2 or whatever they said etc but this way would have kept counties more involved if the games toured the teams they're supposed to represent. Whereas where I live the Ageas is only about 5 mins further away than the Swalec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Port Said Red said: I am not a luddite but I have just had my father in law, who only has a passing interest in cricket, excitedly explaining the rules to me and how to tead those on screen graphics. I told him to save his breath because I wont be watching again. T20 I can take, because I have a team to support and they still have recognisable scorecards and understandable tactics. This is just tinkering for the sake of ir. T20 is test cricket, compared to this shite ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Midred said: John Player league on a Sunday afternoon used to keep me interested enough. Loved that ! Edited July 22, 2021 by slartibartfast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Port Said Red Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, slartibartfast said: T20 is test cricket, compared to this shite ! It takes a certain type of fuckwittery to look at T20 and say "if only it were shorter and didn't involve any teams people had heard of". 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted July 22, 2021 Report Share Posted July 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Port Said Red said: It takes a certain type of fuckwittery to look at T20 and say "if only it were shorter and didn't involve any teams people had heard of". I do wonder what the comms and experts REALLY think of it ? I guess they get paid in Forty Pieces of Silver ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted July 23, 2021 Report Share Posted July 23, 2021 I know the BBC coverage is dreadful especially with the gobshite Vaughan but can only be a good thing that lots more people can watch cricket and for the youngsters who might now get into it. Even if it is this garbage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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