Coppello Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Just now, joe jordans teeth said: why did he post where he was? Will never understand that,let's hope he's ok,he will owe his followers a big apology if he is He posted it before it happened but I'm not sure his safety has been confirmed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 40 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Why are the French so slow to react,we all knew the hostage takers wurnt willing to come out alive and yet they waited and waited 26 minutes ago, joe jordans teeth said: Being ex forces it's only a opinion,maybe I'm not shocked like the rest of you,I'm sorry if you are ex forces then you should know you cannot just storm a building at the drop of the hat, firstly you need to mobilise your elite units and then you need to clear and secure a safe area, you need intel and a plan of the building and a plan of attack, sadly it takes longer than 15 minutes to formulate all that FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ackbird Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 A generation has gone by since fascists last walked the streets of Paris, Dark days indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe jordans teeth Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 18 minutes ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: if you are ex forces then you should know you cannot just storm a building at the drop of the hat, firstly you need to mobilise your elite units and then you need to clear and secure a safe area, you need intel and a plan of the building and a plan of attack, sadly it takes longer than 15 minutes to formulate all that FFS. You sir are correct it takes longer than 15 minutes,it doesn't however take over a hour when you know what the threat is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollymarie Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 5 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: I expect Corbin is dancing in the street I don't care if I'm a moderator. You're an idiot making a comment like that when something as horrible as this has happened. For the record, here's Corbyn's one and only tweet regarding last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Interestingly it looks like one of the attackers posted about the attack before it happened on a French game forum. Chillingly, he posted the exact date of the attack last year and that the attack would be huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoons Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 woke up this morning after staying up late to watch this on news... If only it was a nightmare, but its not. So sad and pointless. I worry for the world I'm bringing my kids into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And Its Smith Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 7 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: I expect Corbin is dancing in the street You prized ***** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy62 Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 7 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: Being ex forces it's only a opinion,maybe I'm not shocked like the rest of you,I'm sorry I'm guessing you didn't get very far in your military career and certainly weren't in charge of anyone. And before you counter with "I was in charge of 500 men", let me assure you that I don't believe you. A single active shooter situation is the stuff of nightmares, let alone a group of them. You just can't send people in blind otherwise you're putting your personnel at risk. A really sad day, but you just might want to consider what you've written before clicking "submit reply". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotswoldRed Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 They're wasting their time teaching tolerance in schools. Churches and religious buildings is where it's needed. Anyone who puts their religion above humanity itself - even if only in word - is already part of a slippery slope. And I've met many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Rich Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 35 minutes ago, Fordy62 said: I'm guessing you didn't get very far in your military career and certainly weren't in charge of anyone. And before you counter with "I was in charge of 500 men", let me assure you that I don't believe you. A single active shooter situation is the stuff of nightmares, let alone a group of them. You just can't send people in blind otherwise you're putting your personnel at risk. A really sad day, but you just might want to consider what you've written before clicking "submit reply". Something tells me he'd had a few sherberts last night. What a complete tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Woke up to see this on the news. Most simple question is, will humanity ever evolve past a need to kill or harm others? And how does a country like France defend against this threat with so many areas of access into the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTone Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 5 minutes ago, reddogkev said: And how does a country like France defend against this threat with so many areas of access into the country? Very difficult but the bigger problem is how do you defend against those already within the country. Sad day here today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gasbuster Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 128 dead, 99 in a critical condition. Horriffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Did they try and get into the stadium? Would of been even more horrific had they managed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Rum Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 9 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: I expect Corbin is dancing in the street Perhaps one of the most stupid posts that I've ever read on here. I'd love to know what you actually mean by that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC Jimmer Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 9 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: I expect Corbin is dancing in the street One of the most appualing things I have ever read on Otib. Hang your head in shame and probably just leave. Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lew-T Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 @joe jordans teeth have you thought about what you said fella? I'm not going to abuse you but what was said last night is nothing short than sickening really. Over 100+ are dead, really is no need at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 8 hours ago, joe jordans teeth said: You sir are correct it takes longer than 15 minutes,it doesn't however take over a hour when you know what the threat is Utter nonsense, firstly there wouldn't have been enough elite police firearms teams actually on duty to deal with an incident of this magnitude, secondly Paris I believe is the biggest city in Europe with Londonesque prices for property, which means that most of it's police officers would live in the suburbs of Paris, from some suburbs of Paris it would take a minimum of an hour to get to a collection point and get kitted up and fully briefed and at the time Paris was in chaotic lock down, so travel would have been even more difficult. it is obvious that from most of your posts on this thread, including the moronic post about Corbyn that you very either very drunk, on drugs or just incredibly stupid, you claim to be ex forces but don't seem to know shit from pudding. You should be ashamed of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howey_ducky Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Absolutely terrible what happened last night. Is France an easy target? They seem to bare the brunt of these murdering lunatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogkev Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 1 hour ago, BigTone said: Very difficult but the bigger problem is how do you defend against those already within the country. Sad day here today It's a sad day everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3318312/Gatwick-North-Terminal-evacuated-armed-police-arrest-man-grenade-bag.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailUK Gatwick Evacuated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 IS have now claimed responsibility, if ever there was any doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Red Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 1 hour ago, howey_ducky said: Absolutely terrible what happened last night. Is France an easy target? They seem to bare the brunt of these murdering lunatics. France is ahead of the UK now cos the French are actually fighting jihadists abroad (Mali, Syria etc), rather than skulking at home because they can't get it past the Commons. Also, I think the extremists naturally hate the French for past misdeeds more than they hate us. Algeria was very dirty indeed. Plus the French make them take off their veils and generally behave in a non-medieval fashion whenever possible, whereas we're still 'anything goes', more or less. And as a final bonus, central Paris has loads more Jews living in it than, say, London, so you're bound to hit a few. Plus the French Govt has been far more pro-Israeli than any other in Europe for the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 1 hour ago, howey_ducky said: Absolutely terrible what happened last night. Is France an easy target? They seem to bare the brunt of these murdering lunatics. it's an easy target because France admits to being aware of between 4 to 6 million illegal immigrants being at large in France but the educated view is more like 8 to 12 million, it is the product of governments burying their heads in the sand and believing that keeping a partial lid on what is happening is good enough, Britain beware. The one good thing is the French couldn't give a tuppenny **** about the European court of human rights and many of it's dangerous decisions that good old Britain misguidedly adhere to and also I suspect the French military and police will once the dust has settled on this tragedy will be very active especially in the Northern Paris ghettos where they know many illegals live and there will be many, many forced repatriations. One thing for sure is when stung into action the French do not care about human rights or liberal condemnation to defend it's people. Not blaming Merkel for this but by god what has she done?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome To The Jungle Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 6 minutes ago, Northern Red said: France is ahead of the UK now cos the French are actually fighting jihadists abroad (Mali, Syria etc), rather than skulking at home because they can't get it past the Commons. Also, I think the extremists naturally hate the French for past misdeeds more than they hate us. Algeria was very dirty indeed. Plus the French make them take off their veils and generally behave in a non-medieval fashion whenever possible, whereas we're still 'anything goes', more or less. And as a final bonus, central Paris has loads more Jews living in it than, say, London, so you're bound to hit a few. Plus the French Govt has been far more pro-Israeli than any other in Europe for the past few years. The best PR for ISIS is for Western countries to attack them. Their whole message is against the West and by striking Syria it makes conversion against us easier. If anyone thinks that the strikes by NATO and Russia have not killed innocent civilians is very naive in my opinion. Every death is a martyr who will convert more. For me I think it is crucial that France do not launch any counter strikes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exAtyeoMax Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 1 minute ago, Esmond Million's Bung said: it's an easy target because France admits to being aware of between 4 to 6 million illegal immigrants being at large in France but the educated view is more like 8 to 12 million, it is the product of governments burying their heads in the sand and believing that keeping a partial lid on what is happening is good enough, Britain beware. The one good thing is the French couldn't give a tuppenny **** about the European court of human rights and many of it's dangerous decisions that good old Britain misguidedly adhere to and also I suspect the French military and police will once the dust has settled on this tragedy will be very active especially in the Northern Paris ghettos where they know many illegals live and there will be many, many forced repatriations. One thing for sure is when stung into action the French do not care about human rights or liberal condemnation to defends it's people. Not blaming Merkel for this but by good what has she done?. I was wondering what would happen if there were attacks on Berlin on the same scale? What will it take to stop the governments from burying their heads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screech Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 Be interesting to see who these people were and how long they have been in France. I'm not losing sight that tens of thousands of unknowns have been allowed to freely walk into Europe and still do everyday. ISIS claimed they would be sending thousands in to destroy Europe from within, I'm not saying this incident is because of this, they may be homegrown. I'm just thankful that David Cameron didn't have his head inside his arsehole and listen to the imbeciles who were prepared to let anyone and everyone come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esmond Million's Bung Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 6 minutes ago, Welcome To The Jungle said: The best PR for ISIS is for Western countries to attack them. Their whole message is against the West and by striking Syria it makes conversion against us easier. If anyone thinks that the strikes by NATO and Russia have not killed innocent civilians is very naive in my opinion. Every death is a martyr who will convert more. For me I think it is crucial that France do not launch any counter strikes. All very laudable so what do you suggest?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRL Posted November 14, 2015 Report Share Posted November 14, 2015 4 minutes ago, screech said: Be interesting to see who these people were and how long they have been in France. I'm not losing sight that tens of thousands of unknowns have been allowed to freely walk into Europe and still do everyday. ISIS claimed they would be sending thousands in to destroy Europe from within, I'm not saying this incident is because of this, they may be homegrown. I'm just thankful that David Cameron didn't have his head inside his arsehole and listen to the imbeciles who were prepared to let anyone and everyone come here. I fear if many more of these attacks happen.... And they will. Citizens of countries all over Europe will turn on all those they think are Muslim. I can see carnage ensuing as the people try to force hidden terrorist from there countries by force. It will be too late for governments to take control... Not that I think they can control this situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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