ciderbeans Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Lee Johnson confirming in Adam baker interview that all we have been linked with represent 0% of players we are actually looking at. all of the below threads stating signings (especially Barnsley players) can be locked and the key can be thrown away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unan Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqDSV-AeiWc Anyone with Player care to enlighten me? Can't watch it whilst at work.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoldenBall Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Watched the youtube video, have to say in that short clip it doesn't fill me with excitement for next season.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Lee says that he is very busy, he's been abroad to watch games, making sure the academy is "aligned" with the 1st team and ensuring the training ground has enough cones. The "names that we are interested in hasn't (sic) come out [into the media]", and he's not going to comment on any speculation regarding transfers. Realistically he reckons we will have made four signings before Aug 6th, ideally though he would like 8. We're a "couple of windows behind". That's the highlights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 @CITYAREREDANDWHITE ? OP, it sounds like he is rubbishing reports made in the mainstream media, not rumours on OTIB. I don't think we've actually been seriously linked to any of those Barnsley players in the media have we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 8 minutes ago, ExiledAjax said: Realistically he reckons we will have made four signings before Aug 6th Very worrying if that's the case. Baker, Tomlin, Matthews, Odemwingie, Wagstaff all out, Fielding crocked...we'd have a smaller squad than we finished with, something I wasn't sure was possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Here we go again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Quote 3 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Very worrying if that's the case. Baker, Tomlin, Matthews, Odemwingie, Wagstaff all out, Fielding crocked...we'd have a smaller squad than we finished with, something I wasn't sure was possible! Indeed we are massively short... No. Position Player 1 GK Frank Fielding 2 DF Mark Little 3 DF Derrick Williams 4 DF Aden Flint 5 DF Luke Ayling 6 DF Adam El-Abd 7 MF Korey Smith 10 FW Kieran Agard No. Position Player 12 GK Richard O'Donnell 13 DF Scott Golbourne 14 MF Bobby Reid 15 MF Luke Freeman 18 FW Aaron Wilbraham (captain) 20 FW Wes Burns 21 MF Marlon Pack 22 FW Jonathan Kodjia 23 MF Joe Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, spudski said: Indeed we are massively short... No. Position Player 1 GK Frank Fielding 2 DF Mark Little 3 DF Derrick Williams 4 DF Aden Flint 5 DF Luke Ayling 6 DF Adam El-Abd 7 MF Korey Smith 10 FW Kieran Agard No. Position Player 12 GK Richard O'Donnell 13 DF Scott Golbourne 14 MF Bobby Reid 15 MF Luke Freeman 18 FW Aaron Wilbraham (captain) 20 FW Wes Burns 21 MF Marlon Pack 22 FW Jonathan Kodjia 23 MF Joe Bryan Certainly puts it into perspective! Based on that alone, can't actually name a full bench! Though of course this excludes Dowling, Vyner and co. Still an incredibly threadbare squad though. I'd be very apprehensive should we only make four additions before we get the season underway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, BRISTOL86 said: Certainly puts it into perspective! Based on that alone, can't actually name a full bench! Though of course this excludes Dowling, Vyner and co. Still an incredibly threadbare squad though. I'd be very apprehensive should we only make four additions before we get the season underway. And I feel this is where it all may fall apart for LJ and MA. He implies we need three transfer windows to get to where he wants, and has said we are two behind. Can't see the fans in general understanding this. He's inherited a very small squad of players. When you take all our loans away, it is a ridiculous situation to have been left in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, spudski said: And I feel this is where it all may fall apart for LJ and MA. He implies we need three transfer windows to get to where he wants, and has said we are two behind. Can't see the fans in general understanding this. He's inherited a very small squad of players. When you take all our loans away, it is a ridiculous situation to have been left in. Indeed, and I feel sorry for him in a way as its not his fault. The number of loanees we needed in order to have sufficient numbers in the squad is the fault of the board and prior management over two poor transfer windows. Cant help but think (hope) it's probably just a bit of smoke and mirrors/tempering expectations though. We need at least four just to be where we were at the end of the season (especially as there was real quality in the departing four) and LJ isn't daft - no way is he going to want to go into his first full campaign scrabbling around to name a bench! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingtonRed Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 MA needs to prove his worth here. Right now we're in the same situation we were last season, letting decent squad players go before getting replacements through the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 18 minutes ago, spudski said: Indeed we are massively short... No. Position Player 1 GK Frank Fielding 2 DF Mark Little 3 DF Derrick Williams 4 DF Aden Flint 5 DF Luke Ayling 6 DF Adam El-Abd 7 MF Korey Smith 10 FW Kieran Agard No. Position Player 12 GK Richard O'Donnell 13 DF Scott Golbourne 14 MF Bobby Reid 15 MF Luke Freeman 18 FW Aaron Wilbraham (captain) 20 FW Wes Burns 21 MF Marlon Pack 22 FW Jonathan Kodjia 23 MF Joe Bryan How depressing! Especially when that lists contains El-Abd and Agard who really don't have a future here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCFC_Dan Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I'm still confident that LJ and MA are doing the right things but it does seem that LJ in particular has been hit by the same realisation that Cotterill was last year that the market for players in the Championship is completely ridiculous. I'm hopeful that those two will do better than Cotterill and Burt did last year and that Johnson will handle the inevitable set backs better than Cotterill did but it's going to be another tough summer and consequently another difficult season. We have to expect that. The good news is that, so long as there are no major departures, the spine of the side is capable of staying in the Championship. It's not a great situation but it's far from a hopeless one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Super said: How depressing! Especially when that lists contains El-Abd and Agard who really don't have a future here. Add to that Wilbs, FF and Little imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOTBLUE Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Perhaps he's just lowering people's expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 This is just OTIB fertiliser at the moment. There's lots more opportunity to nurture this mole hill into a mountain yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid in the Riot Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 More business will be done at the back end of the summer due to the Euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCulturalBomb Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 The season has only just ended. Have faith. OTIB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogbad the Bad Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 LJ looks like he's only been awake for 5 minutes and may have been called out unexpectedly for the chat in the midst of his morning ablutions. Very cagey and somewhat downbeat, not really living up to it's billing title as a 'Big Interview'. So far anyway. Let's hope part 2 is 'BIGGER'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledAjax Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 5 minutes ago, Nogbad the Bad said: LJ looks like he's only been awake for 5 minutes and may have been called out unexpectedly for the chat in the midst of his morning ablutions. Very cagey and somewhat downbeat, not really living up to it's billing title as a 'Big Interview'. So far anyway. Let's hope part 2 is 'BIGGER'. I think he's obviously pretty knackered. Although he's not the most naturally enthusiastic or energetic interviewee. I think he recognises the thin squad which is why he says that we'd ideally have 8 new players by Aug 6th. He may have said 4 was realistic in order to manage expectations. Better to under promise than under deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phileas Fogg Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Means nothing, let's wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin phantom Posted May 27, 2016 Admin Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 hour ago, ExiledAjax said: The "names that we are interested in hasn't (sic) come out [into the media]", and he's not going to comment on any speculation regarding transfers. Basically saying DON'T believe anything Stockhausen writes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 53 minutes ago, spudski said: And I feel this is where it all may fall apart for LJ and MA. He implies we need three transfer windows to get to where he wants, and has said we are two behind. Can't see the fans in general understanding this. He's inherited a very small squad of players. When you take all our loans away, it is a ridiculous situation to have been left in. I don't understand this "three transfer windows" suggestion. Other than waiting for certain players contracts to end, what can he achieve in transfer window 2 and 3 that he couldn't do in transfer window 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 14 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: I don't understand this "three transfer windows" suggestion. Other than waiting for certain players contracts to end, what can he achieve in transfer window 2 and 3 that he couldn't do in transfer window 1? Like you say...availability...and whether it's the right type of player to fit with what we are doing. Plenty of players around...but there are so many different anomalies as to whether they are right for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 30 minutes ago, phantom said: Basically saying DON'T believe anything Stockhausen writes As if we needed telling . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, spudski said: Like you say...availability...and whether it's the right type of player to fit with what we are doing. Plenty of players around...but there are so many different anomalies as to whether they are right for us. Agreed, but this implies that there are certain players we already have in mind whose contracts will run out in 12 months time. How do we know they won't sign a new contract or move elsewhere in the meantime. None of the points you make - while I agree with them - will apply any less in subsequent windows than they do now. Lansdown strikes me as rich enough not to need to pay in installments, so why not just do the business we need to do in this window (whilst acknowledging this is easier said than done). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Super said: Here we go again... Don't worry, SL want's Premiership Football, so banish all those thoughts of another relegation struggle looming, all will be fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudski Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 9 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: Agreed, but this implies that there are certain players we already have in mind whose contracts will run out in 12 months time. How do we know they won't sign a new contract or move elsewhere in the meantime. None of the points you make - while I agree with them - will apply any less in subsequent windows than they do now. Lansdown strikes me as rich enough not to need to pay in installments, so why not just do the business we need to do in this window (whilst acknowledging this is easier said than done). It's complicated. With laws governing percentages on wages, contracts of players are often drawn out over a longer period, so that they fit in with each years budget. For example...El Abds contracts was long, so we could afford to pay his wages over the long term, rather than short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolcitysweden Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Ashton speaking up expectations only for LJ to take them down. Back on square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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