AppyDAZE Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) If ONLY we'd have gone in 5-0 @ HT ... we would've drawn 5-5 Edited February 11, 2017 by AppyDAZE 2 Quote Link to comment
RumRed Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, cynic said: Here he is. Where were you when we were 3-0 up ? Saying get a 4th COYR as far as I can see from the thread Quote Link to comment
Ivorguy Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, cynic said: I would point you to a previous post about some being conspicuous by their absence when 3-0 up......... I agree with RumRed. The coach must take resposibility for the score at 90 minutes. It is not as tho this is one miserable match, it is part of a total meltdown 1 Quote Link to comment
OldlandReddies Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Yeah we should have won from that position but i'll take the point especially in view of where we are and the fact other results went for us again. onwards to Leeds. 1 Quote Link to comment
BRISTOL86 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, lenred said: Worrying for him when even his staunchest defenders are having doubts B86. Doesn't give anyone any joy. Really thought and hoped we were going to turn it around today and he was going to prove his doubters wrong (including me). Sadly I think this is worse than a defeat now, mentally and morale wise. It's funny. I'd have bitten your hand off for a point before KO. But there is something seriously wrong to keep doing what we are doing - capitulating from strong positions - and there seems to be zero sign of it coming to an end. We have chopped and changed personnel and the problems persist. This is a deep rooted problem and I wish I knew what the answer was beyond a change of management because I really want LJ to succeed. But I don't know where else we go...? We could have genuinely been any score up - 4-0, 5-0, 6-0 and we'd have all still been sat waiting for the vidi printer to confirm the inevitable. Clearly the players are also in that mindset and if LJ cant change that mentality quickly then someone else needs to. 5 Quote Link to comment
The Dolman Pragmatist Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 I can't believe this forum, or perhaps I should. If we had been 3-0 down at half time and come back to get a 3-3 draw, people would have been hailing a fantastic point. The fact is we were playing a very good side who had the same number of players as us, and we scored three goals each. It doesn't matter what order they were scored in. They scored three and we scored three. It was a good point. Of course it's disappointing, having been in the lead, but it's still a good point. Those who say they would have been happy with a point before the game should be happy. We got a point. 4 Quote Link to comment
Major Isewater Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, robin_unreliant said: The fact we can play that well in the first half shows there is talent in this squad. Our inability to hold on to it - yet again - shows we don't have a leader who can organise and shape that talent into a winning team. A half decent, experienced manager would fly up the table with this squad. But I expect Lansdown will just see the first half as a reason to hang on to LJ. Fed up with the incessant collapses. I reckon it's down to energy levels , the lads were fired up in the first half and inevitably couldn't keep it up for the full ninety. Should LJ have made the subs earlier ? I don't know. The players are working the socks off ,that is definately a good sign . Quote Link to comment
Spike Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, bristolcitysweden said: SL will stick to him as long as he can. No window. That's the only criticism I have of SL, he and the board are bloody cheap and lack ambition when it comes to managers. So what if we get turned down by some of the "big names", if we actually got one who wasn't new to the league it would help us a lot. Quote Link to comment
RumRed Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, cynic said: I would point you to a previous post about some being conspicuous by their absence when 3-0 up......... So that's a no then Quote Link to comment
steviestevieneville Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, Red white and red said: How can you praise him? Tactically naive. We've seen this so many times already this season! We are massively in the shit!!! So Taylor misses a sitter from 3 yards LJ's fault ? we would of been out of sight . Joe hits the post . All this gets forgotten by the likes of you don't it. Some absolute ******* belters on here. Quote Link to comment
Ivorguy Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, cynic said: Have you got a positive bone in your body mate ? My very last reply to you as you simply don't understand healthy polite debate. Farewell, Cynic from Ivor Quote Link to comment
EstoniaTallinnRed Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, cynic said: Have you got a positive bone in your body mate ? Nothing positive about our great coach, taking off two players who were causing lot's of problems to Derby's CB's and before you say resting them for Leeds, rubbish, win the game you are playing, not the game you have to play! 4 Quote Link to comment
CotswoldRed Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, Major Isewater said: I reckon it's down to energy levels , the lads were fired up in the first half and inevitably couldn't keep it up for the full ninety. Should LJ have made the subs earlier ? I don't know. The players are working the socks off ,that is definately a good sign . You need for less energy when you're 3 up. Quote Link to comment
DJI Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, cynic said: They're all coming out of the woodwork now ! Inevitable and predictable. Or they are just not deluded like some on here. 2 Quote Link to comment
steviestevieneville Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Lord Northski said: Third time in a month we're let three in during the second half. Then look at the players for once , he can't go on the pitch and hold their hands Quote Link to comment
Major Isewater Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, Spike said: That's the only criticism I have of SL, he and the board are bloody cheap and lack ambition when it comes to managers. So what if we get turned down by some of the "big names", if we actually got one who wasn't new to the league it would help us a lot. Quote Link to comment
RumRed Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, cynic said: I would point you to a previous post about some being conspicuous by their absence when 3-0 up......... I may have also been keeping up on the BBC website rather than listening to the drivel on here. Quote Link to comment
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 9 minutes ago, cynic said: Inevitable and predictable that we would play Derby off the park and be 3-0 up ? Or inevitable and predictable that we would chuck away a 3-0 lead ? None of those are either predictable or inevitable. Disappointing not to take all 3 points after the excellent first half but would have taken a point before the game. OK if you say so the 4th time we have conceded 3 goals from winning positions and the 7th time since the end of October that we have lost from either a winning position or a drawing position in the last quarter of game, not inevitable not predictable?. Quote Link to comment
JamesBCFC Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, Esmond Million's Bung said: James that is a joke right?, this the 4th time we have conceded 3 goals from a winning position. PS:- We screwed ourselves and we always do, inevitable and predictable. No it's not a joke, and this result has put a downer on my day. But the result itself wasn't a bad one, it's the way it happened. Battle from 1 down 3 times and many would be fine with it. Swap roles with Derby and many would be delighted. Go 1 up 3 times and it would be disappointing but a good point. We went 3-0 up and it is devastating to throw away the win, but it is still a good point. A person with interest in football but not associated with the club would look at the FT result and think "after their run they've done well". After seeing the HT score I'd imagine they'd think something along the lines of "bloody hell, they threw that away, decent point though." 1 Quote Link to comment
Red Exile Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: I can't believe this forum, or perhaps I should. If we had been 3-0 down at half time and come back to get a 3-3 draw, people would have been hailing a fantastic point. Well, that would be a fantastic point...throwing away a three nil lead is...well, less than fantastic whatever the final score. I think that's what people are pointing out. Quote Link to comment
DJI Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: I can't believe this forum, or perhaps I should. If we had been 3-0 down at half time and come back to get a 3-3 draw, people would have been hailing a fantastic point. The fact is we were playing a very good side who had the same number of players as us, and we scored three goals each. It doesn't matter what order they were scored in. They scored three and we scored three. It was a good point. Of course it's disappointing, having been in the lead, but it's still a good point. Those who say they would have been happy with a point before the game should be happy. We got a point. It does not matter who you play. To go from 3-0 up to 3-3 is not a good point for ANY team. 1 Quote Link to comment
Red white and red Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, steviestevieneville said: So Taylor misses a sitter from 3 yards LJ's fault ? we would of been out of sight . Joe hits the post . All this gets forgotten by the likes of you don't it. Some absolute ******* belters on here. Ok, take this game out of the equation. Are you happy with this season? Are we performing adequately in games? Too many fans happy with being a big fish in the league 1 pond. Not ******* good enough. 2 Quote Link to comment
... Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: I can't believe this forum, or perhaps I should. If we had been 3-0 down at half time and come back to get a 3-3 draw, people would have been hailing a fantastic point. The fact is we were playing a very good side who had the same number of players as us, and we scored three goals each. It doesn't matter what order they were scored in. They scored three and we scored three. It was a good point. Of course it's disappointing, having been in the lead, but it's still a good point. Those who say they would have been happy with a point before the game should be happy. We got a point. You have made the doubters point for them. How many goals ahead would you need to be to be able to win a game? 4, 5, 6? Fantastic point: for Derby. tfj Quote Link to comment
LondonBristolian Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said: So Taylor misses a sitter from 3 yards LJ's fault ? we would of been out of sight . Joe hits the post . All this gets forgotten by the likes of you don't it. Some absolute ******* belters on here. We were 3 - 0 up. We then panicked, conceded 3 goals and drew a game we were comfortably ahead in. Not unlike Reading where we were 2 up. We then panicked, conceded 3 goals and lost a game we were comfortably ahead in. Not unlike Cardiff where we were the better team and went ahead twice. We then panicked, conceded 2 late goals (so 3 in total ) and lost a game we were comfortably ahead in. Not unlike Wednesday back near the start of the season when were 2 - 0 up and then panicked, conceded 3 late goals and lost a game we were comfortably ahead on. Do you honestly not see why people are upset about it? 3 Quote Link to comment
Esmond Million's Bung Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, JamesBCFC said: No it's not a joke, and this result has put a downer on my day. But the result itself wasn't a bad one, it's the way it happened. Battle from 1 down 3 times and many would be fine with it. Swap roles with Derby and many would be delighted. Go 1 up 3 times and it would be disappointing but a good point. We went 3-0 up and it is devastating to throw away the win, but it is still a good point. A person with interest in football but not associated with the club would look at the FT result and think "after their run they've done well". After seeing the HT score I'd imagine they'd think something along the lines of "bloody hell, they threw that away, decent point though." Will that person still think that if when end up in the 3rd division. Quote Link to comment
RumRed Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, cynic said: Its what ever you want it to be. As I said............'ere they come. So no defence, much like our team. 1 Quote Link to comment
Lord Northski Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 Everyone on the radio saying that if they were offered a draw at the start of the game, that they'd take it. Can't argue with that. Thing is, if you'd offered a draw to any of these people at half time and they'd think you're a ****. As such, I can't understand anyone not being flipping angry that we've clung onto a draw from that position. Third time in a month we've chucked 2or 3 points away in a month. 1 Quote Link to comment
IAmNick Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, The Dolman Pragmatist said: I can't believe this forum, or perhaps I should. If we had been 3-0 down at half time and come back to get a 3-3 draw, people would have been hailing a fantastic point. The fact is we were playing a very good side who had the same number of players as us, and we scored three goals each. It doesn't matter what order they were scored in. They scored three and we scored three. It was a good point. Of course it's disappointing, having been in the lead, but it's still a good point. Those who say they would have been happy with a point before the game should be happy. We got a point. Nah, I disagree. For one game in isolation maybe but a season is obviously much more than that - and supporting a club you pay more attention than just to individual results, the pattern is just as important. We've been guilty of this all season, and if the goals had been the reverse (them 3-0 up, then us drawing) then it would be far more encouraging. How do you think the players will feel after this, and going in to the next game as a result - if we're 2-0 up next game? Of course it makes a difference what order they were scored in. I'm looking for a sign of improvement of us maybe being more tactically aware and the games being managed better, not just the number at the end. 4 Quote Link to comment
Dan Robin Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, steviestevieneville said: So Taylor misses a sitter from 3 yards LJ's fault ? we would of been out of sight . Joe hits the post . All this gets forgotten by the likes of you don't it. Some absolute ******* belters on here. Football is not only an attacking game. If you're 3-0 up, you can try to keep possession and give more importance to defensive tactics, instead of trying to score more goals, especially when some of your players are tired and/or the other team'pressure increases. It doens't guarantee you a good result, but having a plan B can be useful, in these circumstances. 1 Quote Link to comment
RedM Posted February 11, 2017 Report Share Posted February 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, EstoniaTallinnRed said: Can't keep blaming it on the Ref, the substitutions were the problem today, surely two strikers who are not injured can play for 90 minutes, no need to take off Tammy and Taylor, they were causing problems to Derby's defence, As soon as he changed we were on the back foot. Bad decisions again by our great coach! Hard to disagree with that, but not at the match so couldn't tell if they were fading or not. I guess they are still easing Taylor into the Championship, but no not the subs I would have done either if they were fit and playing well. 1 Quote Link to comment
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