Sixtyseconds Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Chippenham Red. I support things I cannot have now and would require others to change the law in decades time to happen. That's easy. Jon Lansdown started that consultation yet ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Loud pop or whatever music pre-game doesn't help either. Never thought it does, drowns out attempts to build an atmosphere naturally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, Sixtyseconds said: Chippenham Red. I support things I cannot have now and would require others to change the law in decades time to happen. That's easy. Jon Lansdown started that consultation yet ... That's an incredibly cynical view. They went as far down the road with it as they could, even getting a sample section installed next to the Atyeo. I see very little reason why they would have gone to such lengths without any real intentions. It would be a pretty pointless PR exercise if you knew it ultimately wouldn't succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mr Popodopolous said: Loud pop or whatever music pre-game doesn't help either. Never thought it does, drowns out attempts to build an atmosphere naturally. Think you may be showing your age Mr P Not sure what the up to date word is ! (And I can't remember last time I listened to Radio 1 !!! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixtyseconds Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 CR. Its very easy to hang hopes on something that is decades away. But the things that matter now take true grit. The dwindling band of singers and standers still dont know what tomorrow for them will look like. That is rubbish. And it is not what fans were told would happen. It was predicted though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Cowshed said: This is not meant to sound terse, but it is not lucky to have decent facilities, it should be a given. Today's kids will not experience the positive aspects. I would not call that lucky either. Those who have watched football through the decades will realise what has been lost. But we are lucky, SL shouldn't be taken for granted as a benefactor, and good facilities certainly aren't a 'given'. If you go to the Mem to watch a game you'll see what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrs Court Red Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 57 minutes ago, ChippenhamRed said: I hear this a lot that BS only want a "family friendly" crowd - so how do you explain their push for safe standing prior to the rebuild starting, something very obviously associated with a more working class / vociferous type of supporter? Becaus it was a) a useful carrot for smoothing over rugby fans b) there will be a huge clamour for it when/if it is legal. So apart from this dubious answer, there's not really much else to support the theory that they are for the more boisterous amongst us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 13 minutes ago, Sixtyseconds said: CR. Its very easy to hang hopes on something that is decades away. But the things that matter now take true grit. The dwindling band of singers and standers still dont know what tomorrow for them will look like. That is rubbish. And it is not what fans were told would happen. It was predicted though. Is this a poem?! I think we'll agree to disagree. PS - it's better if you quote or tag someone when replying (use the @ then write the username) so they get a notification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: But we are lucky, SL shouldn't be taken for granted as a benefactor, and good facilities certainly aren't a 'given'. If you go to the Mem to watch a game you'll see what I mean. No luck. It is basic respect mate. Decent facilities for fans should be a given. Its also law e,g fans with disabilities, access, exits ... . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChippenhamRed Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Barrs Court Red said: Becaus it was a) a useful carrot for smoothing over rugby fans b) there will be a huge clamour for it when/if it is legal. So apart from this dubious answer, there's not really much else to support the theory that they are for the more boisterous amongst us. But they've built the stadium so it can easily be included at a later date. If they really didn't want the boisterous fans they could easily not have bothered to engage with the issue of safe standing at all. I'm not saying the club is particularly pro-boisterous (!), I'm just not convinced that they are quite as actively anti as is being suggested. I'd say my theory is no less dubious than your counter-theory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Popodopolous Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cowshed said: No luck. It is basic respect mate. Decent facilities for fans should be a given. Its also law e,g fans with disabilities, access, exits ... . Was it legal when the EastEnd had no backs to the seat? Yes- but nobody would call that decent facilities necessarily- but nobody minded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton_fan Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Cowshed said: No luck. It is basic respect mate. Decent facilities for fans should be a given. Its also law e,g fans with disabilities, access, exits ... . Every ground in the league has to satisfy the legal requirements and there are plenty of ramshackle grounds in the lower leagues, our facilities are well above 'decent' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAGa Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Phileas Fogg said: The atmosphere is bad. That suits BS just fine, they associate atmosphere with crowd trouble, 'un-family friendly' chanting and issues with people standing. They'd much rather have a silent stadium that spent a lot of money in the bar and around the ground than a hostile AG, that's clearly the aim. S82 do a good job in difficult circumstances but they've been pushed from one bodged compromise solution to another.. always the worst areas of the ground. We used to be a fair bit better than average for atmosphere, but since the redevelopment it's got even worse. Even games vs Cardiff don't seem to generate anything anymore.. before the redevelopment it used to be a pretty good atmosphere for modern football. That first season in the Championship under GJ had some great atmospheres.. Cardiff when they ripped up the netting, QPR on the opening day, those playoff games.. opposition managers used to comment on it - Phil Brown and Warnock did. Perhaps that's partly the success on the pitch, the fact we knew really that we were overachieving and also the EE being open properly. If we went up, I think the atmosphere would improve hugely - it seems to be better if we're underdogs. IF they got the location of S82/singing section correct that is. Look at Warnock's comment after the Cardiff game the other week, when he said he was surprised at how we only chanted at him for 30 seconds. He's shocked at how sterile Ashton Gate has become, I bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowshed Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, ashton_fan said: Every ground in the league has to satisfy the legal requirements and there are plenty of ramshackle grounds in the lower leagues, our facilities are well above 'decent' And I have not suggested anything different. I do not however how your view that fans should consider themselves lucky to not still be using a block wall as a urinal. Decent facilities should be a given to all supporters regardless of the depth of their pockets. I also do not think that this notional idea that the loss of atmosphere and excitement is a price worth paying for better facilities, and supporters who miss that element of matchday should count their good fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London expats Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Reality is it's 2017, The athmosphere , vocal element from the 70s and 80s ain't coming back. I'm not even sure how many would actually want it to. Standing on open terraces in torrential rain - No food - No drinking in grounds - excessive police presence etc. Wasn't such great fun. Todays fans want and expect better facilities and a different family friendly experience with food / drink and safe surroundings. One they can bring their kids / wife etc without bother or language. Safe standing may give a small percentage of fans what they want but it will be an ever decreasing number. personally I don't think we will ever see it, the government don't want it and I'm not sure clubs really want it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBlockExile Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 We may have rose tinted glasses but everything is wrong at Ashton gate - I do not enjoy the whole experience any more. The Spirit has long since departed AG both on and off the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London expats Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, BBlockExile said: We may have rose tinted glasses but everything is wrong at Ashton gate - I do not enjoy the whole experience any more. The Spirit has long since departed AG both on and off the pitch. Think since Sky and BT came in with all the money the spirit left football in general not just AG. You can now see football every night of the week from all around the world from the comfort of your armchair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inactive user Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Away is fun. Home is turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBlockExile Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 London I completely agree with you - the game has become Boring. I think it is time for a change - i am going to do something that i enjoy on a Saturday Afternoon from next season - God knows what at the moment but i am not putting myself through another season of this utter rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityCiderEd Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 I've called us the "Ten second chanters" for a few years now.We haven't got any really good chants/songs and they just peter out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAGa Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 I'm not calling for a return to the 70s/80s. I was brought up supporting City from the early 2000's, I just want it back to what it was like before the EE was knocked down. Like I said, it wasn't always a wall of noise but it was a lot better than genuinely sitting in silence for 99% of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie andrews Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, CityCiderEd said: I've called us the "Ten second chanters" for a few years now.We haven't got any really good chants/songs and they just peter out. we only sing that awful ole ole ole shite...ok when it first came out but theres loads of old songs better than shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johndamsell Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 even in the seventies ashton gate very nearly had the same atmosphere as eastville, bring back them times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaspberryRed Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 19 hours ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Just continual E-I-O , E-I-O, E-I-O E-I-O as they were escorted down North Street , and throughout the game Think this was the game when they had a bonfire on the open end That game will live long in the memory. I was in my teens and walked up the steps of the Dolman maybe 15mins before KO to be met by a wall of noise and all I can describe as a complete riot. Looking across to the Millwall enclosure which just confirmed they wern't here for the football. What followed was utter chaos and by the time the away fans had collected anything that would burn (Mostly seats from A & B Block) they proceed to build a bonfire bang in the middle of the open end. It was comical looking at City's top boys who's reactions ranged from bewilderment to hilarity. Crazy times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueredsupporter Posted March 4, 2017 Report Share Posted March 4, 2017 Pretty dead in all stands. ?? where have the Atyeo flags gone???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumRed Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 6 hours ago, Trueredsupporte said: Pretty dead in all stands. ?? where have the Atyeo flags gone???? If the owner, and manager, appear to not care if we go down why should anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trueredsupporter Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 like seeing the flags behind the goal. if they are not there because of people being disillusioned with LJ its still fair play for doing it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeOTIB Posted March 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Atmosphere started off pretty well yesterday. After half time however, it slowly dropped off. And at full time, it got pretty toxic in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slack Bladder Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Can we have a South Stand standing day, like they do in the Atyeo or at away matches. Everybody just stand up in the south stand, people tend to get to their feet when City are in or around the box anyway, just stand up the rest of the time as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted March 5, 2017 Report Share Posted March 5, 2017 Been watching the Budesliga highlights on Saturday mornings for a while and the atmosphere at 99% of games shows just how pathetic football in England has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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