Septic Peg Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 http://mobile.efl.com//news/article/2016/efl-statement-checkatrade-trophy-3670256.aspx Statement asking clubs to vote on either... A revised format with 16 invited teams A format consisting of only L1/L2 teams Scrap the competition altogether. Can't see no. 1 getting much support so fully expect no. 2 or 3 happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 I thought number 2 was the orgional format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Septic Peg Posted April 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Just now, Never to the dark side said: I thought number 2 was the orgional format It is NTTDS but current rule changes brought in last year as they stand say L1 and L2 with additional 'B' teams aka no. 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never to the dark side Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Glad we're not involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samo II Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Many slag it off, but I see nothing wrong with option 2 (i.e. The original set up). Cleary the new way piloted this year was utter mince, but what's wrong with those league sides below championship level getting a dedicated cup? Might be on my own, but have enjoyed our runs in the competition (sometimes it was the only good thing about being stuck in League One), and if it doesn't cause financial harm, I see no problem with it. Just sack off the faux champions league format with groups and all that; knock out from round one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppyDAZE Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 RE-vamp it the Micky Mouse (any self respecting lower league football club worth its salt and hasn't won it is a joke) Trophy Yes, Gas we're talking about you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRISTOL86 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Either revert to original format or get rid of it altogether IMO. 46 games plus two domestic cups is already an awful lot of games so can see a lot of support for option 3 especially from clubs with lesser resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlands Robin Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 I don't know of anyone who thought there was much wrong with this competition until they started to bugger around with it. Go back to how it was and leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pongo88 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 46 minutes ago, Never to the dark side said: Glad we're not involved I hope this isn't some famous last words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richwwtk Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 1 hour ago, AppyDAZE said: RE-vamp it the Micky Mouse (any self respecting lower league football club worth its salt and hasn't won it is a joke) Trophy Yes, Gas we're talking about you Give them a chance, they've only been a league club two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TV Tom Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Go back to original format and sack the idiots who thought up this seasons format Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Which was the original format please? We've had a straight knock out, pools of three with the top two progressing and pools of three with just the pool winners progressing. I think the first few rounds actually cost the clubs money. Away team has to travel and possibly have an overnight stop. Home team has to use floodlights and pay police, stewards, gate staff etc. Perhaps play the first two or three rounds on Saturday afternoons, possibly pre season and start leagues 1 & 2 a few weeks later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 One year if memory serves the top Conference clubs were included. I`m not sure if it was sixteen which made 64 teams and it became a straight knockout or not though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS4 on Tour... Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Scrap it now so we will be forever enshrined in its history as the club that won it the most times....and what a proud accolade that is! Good grief, even the two finals we lost were to a current premier league outfit and the club that gloriously deprived Rovers of their league status and dumped them into the non-league abyss! We obviously knew what would happen 27 years later so thanked them in advance! Still, we've never won The Watney Cup.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Football fans of clubs above League 1 and 2 have no idea who the holders are. I couldn't tell you even tho City won it recently. Personally I dislike the Mickey Mouse cup and feel embaressed whenever we're in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Scrap it now so we will be forever enshrined in its history as the club that won it the most times....and what a proud accolade that is! Good grief, even the two finals we lost were to a current premier league outfit and the club that gloriously deprived Rovers of their league status and dumped them into the non-league abyss! We obviously knew what would happen 27 years later so thanked them in advance! Still, we've never won The Watney Cup.... http://halfmanhalfbiscuit.uk/back-again-in-the-dhss/rod-hull-is-alive-why/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBobSuperBob Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Robbored said: Football fans of clubs above League 1 and 2 have no idea who the holders are. I couldn't tell you even tho City won it recently. Personally I dislike the Mickey Mouse cup and feel embaressed whenever we're in it. Thought you did a good mini bus service , or was it a basement League play off game .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, BobBobSuperBob said: Thought you did a good mini bus service , or was it a basement League play off game .... That is such a weary and tired jibe........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonM88 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, Robbored said: That is such a weary and tired jibe........... Nope, I still love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mundz18 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 I know it's been frowned upon this season, but I actually like the current set up, due to it helping youth.. I'm aware some fans of L1/L2 teams see it as an insult, but you couldn't tell me that you wouldn't want your U23 team playing competitive football against seasoned pros, just to help the standard of our own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbored Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, JasonM88 said: Nope, I still love it. Thats ok then. It's the lack of original jibes that disappoints me........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shelts Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Bring back the Anglo Italian Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
22A Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 10 hours ago, BS4 on Tour... said: Still, we've never won The Watney Cup.... Semi finalists though, losing 4-1 to Stoke. 73-74ish. Who did we beat in the quarter finals? For you young uns; The Watney Cup was introduced as a pre season tournament in 1970 or 71. The two top scoring teams in the four divisions who had not won promotion or qualified for Europe played a pre season tournament. The Div 4 teams were home to the Div 2 sides and the Div3 teams met the Div 1 teams. 1st round on a Saturday, 2nd round midweek and final the next Saturday. This meant replays were impossible, so to determine the winner of a drawn game, the penalty shoot out was dreamed up. The first year Colchester made it all the way to the final to play WBA at The Hawthorns. That game was drawn and so, televised live we saw how a shoot out works and, if you weren't involved was exciting. Before the shoot outs, we had used replays for domestic cup games. In the European and UEFA Cups, if the scores were the same after two legs, a disc (not a coin) was tossed to determine which team progressed. 1957-58 Karl Marx Stadt (now Chemnitz) called "Heads" correctly after equal scores over two legs v Gwardia Warsaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanatopia Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 70,000 for Oxford v Coventry and a higher number for our last final v Walsall tells you that the imbeciles that are suggesting scrapping it have no place running a fruit stall at a Women's Institute market, let alone a decent cup competition for lower league clubs. Or should the analogy be the other way around? One might argue. Either way I think you understand my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Isewater Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 1 minute ago, havanatopia said: 70,000 for Oxford v Coventry and a higher number for our last final v Walsall tells you that the imbeciles that are suggesting scrapping it have no place running a fruit stall at a Women's Institute market, let alone a decent cup competition for lower league clubs. Or should the analogy be the other way around? One might argue. Either way I think you understand my point. They should just have the final then because the other rounds don't produce decent gates . Seriously, every supporter dreams of seeing their club in a Wembley cup final including the casual followers . Nobody much dreams about à first round Freight Daf Johnson's Checkatrade Trophy match against Plymouth . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 I hope they don't scrap it, it's the only cup we bother trying in. We last reached round 6 of the FA cup in 1974, that is pathetic. There is no justification for our performance in the cups whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gambler Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 19 minutes ago, Kingswood Robin said: I hope they don't scrap it, it's the only cup we bother trying in. We last reached round 6 of the FA cup in 1974, that is pathetic. There is no justification for our performance in the cups whatsoever. Johnson out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingswood Robin Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, The Gambler said: Johnson out! When it comes to cup matches, I wish we could learn to hold'em every now and again instead of just folding 'em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanterne Rouge Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 10 hours ago, 22A said: Semi finalists though, losing 4-1 to Stoke. 73-74ish. Who did we beat in the quarter finals? For you young uns; The Watney Cup was introduced as a pre season tournament in 1970 or 71. The two top scoring teams in the four divisions who had not won promotion or qualified for Europe played a pre season tournament. The Div 4 teams were home to the Div 2 sides and the Div3 teams met the Div 1 teams. 1st round on a Saturday, 2nd round midweek and final the next Saturday. This meant replays were impossible, so to determine the winner of a drawn game, the penalty shoot out was dreamed up. The first year Colchester made it all the way to the final to play WBA at The Hawthorns. That game was drawn and so, televised live we saw how a shoot out works and, if you weren't involved was exciting. Before the shoot outs, we had used replays for domestic cup games. In the European and UEFA Cups, if the scores were the same after two legs, a disc (not a coin) was tossed to determine which team progressed. 1957-58 Karl Marx Stadt (now Chemnitz) called "Heads" correctly after equal scores over two legs v Gwardia Warsaw. First game I ever saw was a Watney Cup game, Fulham v Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buster Footman's T shirt Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 22 hours ago, mundz18 said: I know it's been frowned upon this season, but I actually like the current set up, due to it helping youth.. I'm aware some fans of L1/L2 teams see it as an insult, but you couldn't tell me that you wouldn't want your U23 team playing competitive football against seasoned pros, just to help the standard of our own The irony was that it helped youth players from prem sides but the L1 and L2 sides were unable to pitch many youth players due to the ruling about minimal changes from last league game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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